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I am going to bring this up as a serious topic for discussion, in this discussion I would like this audience to remove the, "Gay" term and institute the use of the term, "Vampi/yre".

My question to this audience is: Is it a minority or a majority of you that have confessed to being, "vampi/yric in nature begun or have been harrassed or targeted by, "bullies"? Have their words ever become life threatening to the point of young Kenneth's had? Or have/had they become physical? And if so, what measures have you taken in order to rid yourselves of said, "bullies"?

reference to this thread's, Kenneth can be found here...

First off I do not admit to the common world what I am and neither should anyone else. I am limited to be who I am only on this site. I am sure some may suspect unconsciously. But I try to act totaly normal and even shocked and surprised at the idea. What helps is that I lack many of the symptoms Hollywood displays as "vampire"

Back in high school, yes bullying was a violent thing. Fights, beatings, and the like...

I attempted suicide several times, some prior to bullying for other reasons, and once due to the stress of my situation.

At age 16, I attempted suicide at the school which set alot of new rules and punishments. I spent some time in an institution and when I came back I think people were more afraid of me than anything. There wasnt any place to go, no one at the school to talk to or trust to actually help any one being bullied.

We lived in a sense of non belief. We were alone. And that is worse than the bullying. Harassment isnt tolerated in most work places so I dont understand why its tolerated in schools.

I don't know what the answer is against bullying.
I've seen different school programs and such but nothing seems to work. The fact is ... we live in a society of free speech and self expression, there is always going to be bullies. I think we just need more support programs in schools for the bullied, to cope, and help fight back in non-violent means.

I never really got bullied. For some reason I exuded a certain "don't fuck with me" aura. If someone messed with me, they ran away with their invisible tail between their stupid legs. I don't see why true vampires would get bullied though. No, worshipped from a distance maybe.

Considering the rather large fan base for vampires of all sorts, I would think bullying would be a non-issue. Although this is coming from someone who used to defend the bullied kids. I was a horrible little child.....hehe...anyways. And a true vampire, as Nikki stated, would most likely have nothing to fear from bullies...

Of course. "Real" vampires would have no fear. We have all of these abilities..

- And what Abilities are those??
- When and how did you show off your "Vamp skills" to the world??

See here lies the inherent problem with this kind of topic, People just type without putting much though into what they type. Although you don't realize it, this lack of knowledge makes spotting fakes and role players very easy.

Ok for starters...

A.) The current trend in vampires being cool is just that... Current.
Anyone over the age of 25 would understand that a youth walking around in high school or any other public setting prior to the early 90's claiming to be a vampire would have got you laughed at by anyone outside the community. It would not have been a laughing matter for those within the community and would have gotten you on a watch list.

B.) Anyone who was really vampiric would have been born into a house, or had an awakening in their teen years. As such they would have been noticed by others and introduced to the local underground.
Whether you were within the community or not, either way you would have had a strict code to follow and any display of who and what you are would have put you and your elders at risk.
That's why our Veil of secrecy exists in the first place... Reckless behavior is simply something you would not have been permitted to get away with. Being bullied by mundanes would have been the least of your problems!!

~Severus~, all who know me on this site, the Vampirerave.com, know that I always put mass amount of thought into what I post as a subject for the forum. Which is why I don't post very often, and when I do... there is always a point to be made.

Anywho, with the condescending tone aside from us both, why oh why do people have to combat others posts? (Irrelevant), Severus, were you bullied when you were younger? Instead of adding something articulate as usual, please... get a bit personal... or not.

~Severus~, Do you have children in school who have come to you about their own bullies? If so, then you know full well that the School staff will do nothing about it. Even through parent teacher conferences, they neglect to mention the behavioral problems that some students have.

My last relationship had a mother with child that was going to a school that was being bullied by his peers (or lack thereof), just some random kids who targeted him because he was at the wrong place, at the wrong time.

So unless you have experienced this for yourself from a parental view, than ask yourself this questions..., "What to do about school bullies for your childrens sake"? And if the School board does nothing about your childrens bullies, than what measures are you prepared to take to derail the bully(s) yourself?

Advocacy is one thing, but dealing with your child's bully(s) is a very different thing.

Everyone has their own concepts and misconceptions of vampires. No one's right or wrong, they're beliefs. And, this site is the equivalent to roleplay, pretty much. It's a social site about vampires. Of course there will be some people on here pretending to be them, or those looking for them.

Then there is the other thing.."oh, real vampires wouldn't go on the web." Why not? Everyone else does.. They are more inquisitive than others.

Soulshroude, great post.

First of all, I believe that it is undeniable that school bullies have existed always. Truthfully, the School System, does not do much if anything about this. The case being that there are too many variables to include peer pressure, would prevent any effective measure against bullies.

To this I add that like Nikki, I had a demeanor at school that most preferred to have not picked on me. In fact, I cannot withstand those who pick on others, whom these bullies may deem as “weak.”

As to the objective point. I would be very careful to whom I would reveal that I am a vampyre. The case being, that due to misinformation to reveal what I am, where I live would result in inevitable dire consequences. At the social, community and vocational level.

At the same time I agree with Nikki, that at least as far as I am concerned, I believe vampyres may be quite astute in intellect and hold an assertive demeanor. This comment is to be understood as my unique perception; not as a label or attribute given to any other who may uphold he or she is a vampyre. I merely have stated that I agree what was posted by Nikki about the innate quality of a vampyre. For the sole reason that it resonates with who I am.

In the recent past, I non-nonchalantly mentioned to a group of what I thought were non judgmental individuals, that one of my favorite shows was The Vampire Diaries. This brought a series of unwanted and unneeded comments. To include the claim that the show and vampires are“evil.”

If a mere comment to individuals about a fictional show resulted in such a response, I would have to say that I have been bullied. As nonsensical claims were made. Albeit, I live in an extremely all encompassing Conservative demographic area. The word vampire is for the residents of this area, synonymous with the devil. Whether absurd or unfounded, it is thus.

Without further hesitation, I declare that to disclose that I am a vampyre would result in bullying. To include possible physical injury from the residents. Not just for me, but for any who would be seen with me. I live in a rural environment with individuals who without a doubt would start a “vampyre inquisition.”

I was born and raised here and I have witnessed, the obstructionism of individuals who do not fit the accepted “traditional norm.”In fact, due to this I had to remove my picture from a former site. As logic and sound judgment in my particular circumstance, was taken into account.

I find this to be a very interesting post. I look forward to read the responses from others.

Victorya

Soulshroude,

Actually I am a father of 3... and a former police officer, so I have seen every side of this problem first hand.

Bottom line is that the kids can't be punished by there parents or their teachers and until they physically touch another the law can't do anything either. Not that the law does any serious punishmentto minors in the first place. Adult are the only ones who can fix the laws and restore balance to the system whih we use to govern, control, and educate our kids. Until we say enough is enough things will stay as they are or only get worse.

Sorry about the typos... that's what happens when you have fat thumbs and a small phone. lol

I was bullied as a child for being different. My Mother dressed me like a freak from another era, and another planet. I got beat up and picked on relentlessly. They would surround me holding hands and would say all these horrible things to me, and call me dumb and stupid. I hated my mother. No one did a thing about it. Fortunately,my Dad stepped in and took me to live with him. He respected my wishes as to the clothes I wanted to ware, and I didn't ever ware glasses again in school.

I HATE BULLY'S. I am familiar with the story which prompted this discussion. I am sick inside knowing that this little boy killed himself because of bully's. It breaks my heart. Action is finally being taken, and teachers and parents are finally noticing. It about time. These kids who are getting bullied need to tell someone. They need positive reinforcement from adults. Adults need to be 'adults' and address this issue. Unfortunately, someone had to die before things got stepped up.

One of my sons was picked on at school. He was fortunate to have brothers who stuck up for him. His twin brother kicked the kid's ass who was picking on his brother. His brother,my son, is gay. They stopped picking on him. He had a difficult time figuring out everything, but he is fine, and happy. I love him for who he is, not his sexual preference. Laws are changing. These things have to be addressed. Parents are responsible for teaching their children that being different is just being different, not bad, stupid, or whatever. It is the adults responsibility to take charge, step in. Do the right thing. Archie Bunker's of the world are not welcomed anymore.

There are still bully's, and will probably always be, but things are changing, and I am glad. I know you probably think it is wrong that one of my son's beat up another kid. Well, he took matters into his own hands. I taught them to stick up for themselves, and to take care of each other. He protected his brother because he was different, and was being abused by someone. Tell me you wouldn't stick up for your brother or sister if someone was trying to hurt them, or was being cruel to them? I had to stick up for my sister when she was little because she was really fat.

Don't be a bully, be a Star. WWE campaign's saying, and I think it is awesome. it teaches kindness and tolerance. Thats the way it should be.

Thats what I believe, although I may have worded it differently. Bullying is everyone's problem.

As much as I don't agree with bullying, I wouldn't just stand there and let it happen to me. If you don't like it, don't take it.

It's like Nikki Sixx once did while in middle school or which ever grade. He got bullied to the point where he got sick of it, filled his metal lunch box with rocks and smashed the bullies in the face. They didn't mess with him again..

I'm not saying that people should go around physically tormenting bullies back.. but, why would you just take it?

Bullying will never end unless parents unite and stand together in front of the school board and demand harsher punishments. I am a teacher, I seen it, tried to stop it, taken it to administration only to have nothing happen. Oh the students were suspended but that was about it. It worked for some of them but others just kept doing it. Parents need to make the change happen by providing a united front that they wont stand for it.

It doesn't matter matter the reason behind the bullying, it is wrong no matter how you look at it. It needs to stop and it starts with parents of every student, bullied or not.

When I was young I was bullied for most of my childhood because I was 'a big girl'. I learned from this that there is a social pecking order that seems to be inherent within most societies and its about a social hierarchy. The more 'normal' you are, beautiful, fashionable, confident etc the more you are acceptable and in a sense this is a form of social control to keep us in line. From this experience I decided at a young age to champion difference , accept the unaccepted, love the unlovable and try to see the good in people and celebrate individualism. From this I decided to that by being a teacher I could influence children's lives by accepting who they are, encouraging individualism, developing tolerance and discouraging social hierarchies. I am still a 'big girl' and want to challenge social stereotyping by being a living example to the people around me, I will not conform and I will not give in to social control. I believe that society needs to completely reverse its need to control through social normality and conformity before bullying can be irradicated, individuality should be celebrated and tolerance should be 'the norm'. That way society would be much fairer and world conflicts might be prevented. Thanks for this thread, it has enabled me to articulate my life long thoughts on bullying and how it has influenced my life.

Personally, I was not bullied in school, I was a social butterfly that did not fit into any crowd so to say, but I got along with all crowds. I think that the only true thing to fix bullying is for the law to make the parents responsible for the childrens errors until they are old enough to know the difference. Then the children should be held responsible for their mistakes.

My 3 year old daughter is going through a bully phase right now, and I think it is her way of dealing with being seperated from me until I can get back home next year. I hate the fact that she cannot understand how to deal with her emotions, but I also know the only way she will learn is through trial and error as well as having consequences for her actions.

For me, there is only one way to deal with bullies no matter who you are...

When I was in school my older brother told me that if anyone ever messed with me, I was to show them absolutely no mercy. My brother was an extremely violent person at this point in his life.

Well, no one ever bothered with me until my tenth grade year and it really wasn't a big deal. I was walking to my next class carrying my books (one happened to be a very thick hardbound history book).

That's when one of my team mates from the football team walked by and knocked my books from my hands causing them to scatter all along the floor.

I thought to myself, "ok, this is a good laugh for you all." Apparently, this was found to be most humorous. That's when I decided to show everyone something truly hilarious.

I got down on the floor and began to gather my books. This dude stood over me laughing and taunting until I reached up and punched him in the nuts. When he went to the ground, I grabbed that history book and swatted him in the face. When he was completely down on the ground, I climbed on top of him and trapped his arms with my legs; grabbed the front of his shirt and began to punch him as hard as I could.

He was a bloody mess and I shattered many of the bones in his face. He didn't show up to school again for several weeks.

I received a one week suspension and needless to say, no one from my high school ever bothered me again.

Of course when that guy did heal up and came back to school, my brother treated him to another trip back to the emergency room.

When I was young,kids would come and get me whenever they had been bullied.I admit,I enjoyed the hell out of giving them a taste of their own medicine.Now that I am older though,thats not something we can going around doing,so we need to deal with them in other ways.

Nope. Older or not, male or female....makes no difference to me. You put your hands on me or anyone that I care about, I will put my hands on you.

Words mean nothing to me, call me what you will, I cannot be bullied with words. It is a shame to me that so many people can be bullied by mere words.

I have to agree in part with you Zombie..words are words.But an adult cant put hands on a minor,so other measures need to be taken .

True for the most part but, there are some pretty large 16 and 17 year old teens out there and if they put their hands on me, they get what's coming to them.

(This is speaking in terms of self defense of course)

I understand..And when it comes to self defense,take care of biz forst,ask questions later.
I think one of the things that could possibly help stop bullies os to expose them somehow.Thats one thing they really dont seem to like.

Oh I agree, exposure is death to a bully. Also, if we are talking about teenagers...getting the parents involved is key.

Yes it is Zombie.A key that no one seems to want to turn.Its NEVER their kid's fault.Also,if parents were a little observant,they might be able to pinpoint why a kid bullies others.Most of the time there is an underlying reason for it.

Many children who bully have agessive or bullying parents, this perpetuates the cycle of bullying, a non agressive approach is best. Knowing the consequences of your actions and developing empathy for others should be the way forward, unfortunately violence breeds violence!!!

I agree with you Zombie, But I think the problem has gravitated beyond that for today's youth.
With today's social media and instant mobility the climate is not a "stand your ground" kind of issue for most kids. Just take a look at the level of drama... and the strong reactions to that drama which take place here on VR.
And for the most part, we are the adults!!

Look at how we treat each other some times!! Now put the power of anonymity into the socially under developed and irresponsible hands of a teenager.
The person being bullied isn't shoved to the ground or even mocked by a group of kids in the hall these days. No they are degraded and humiliated in a way that completely strips them of their social identity. At a time when you are suppose to be growing up and learning threw trial and error these kids are forced to be perfect or face public humiliation for the world to see. And that can go on for months even years.
There is not an adult in this forum who would allow a single YouTube or Facebook forbidden blog to be posted about us which resulted in the torment of our social lives, there would be a law suit... regardless of it's source.
Yet we allow our kids to endure through it daily.

What are kids suppose to do with that??
They try to deal with it but if they cant and fail what you end up with is a child committing suicide or they attack the problem as you suggest and you end up with a school shooting.
This problem isn't going to go away, and it's the responsibility and "Duty" of every adult to end this... One community, one school, even one child at a time if necessary.

And, even speaking with a counselor won't help at all... believe me, I tried that once... failed miserably. They tried to label me as a manic-depressive and even called my family in. After that, the school labeled me a, "devil worshiper." Screw that!

Must admit, I did not intend to post here again but I liked this thread.
Having been always a little different I was challened by the fastest" kid at school. He is now a big-wig in the financial world...(Mr Haycock) you know insurance n goldman sachs.
He said if I could catch him he I could bite him.
So I did...nearly got expelled for that, so unfair.
Another wanna bee challenged me to a fight in the toilets. I grabbed him around the neck and lifted him off the floor until two of his mates begged I let him go.
Ten years later I realised this was not what normal people could do. Mmm...who cares..

I guess we don't have high school shootings here in England yet, so I'm assuming that there is a different attitude to bullying. The class system of old has probably kept people in a kind of social pecking order which denotes their place in society and therefore who the bullies are. Its interesting from my perspective to hear your views from accross the pond as they are very different from mine.

I am interested, ~Luna~..., I know about the difference between cultures from America to across the sea, but what is the difference between the bullies in America and the Bullies where your from? Verbal vs Physical or what?

From my perspective I think that bullying here takes the form of 'the haves' and the 'have nots'. By this I mean that lots of bullying is aimed at those who may not, cannot be in the 'in crowd', fashionable, beautiful, up with the latest thing etc. Its a way for the bully to feel that they are better which is why I talk of a social hierarchy. My first post here talks about this so I wont go on. There is a real pressure on youth here to 'conform' or be marginalized. My daughter who is 12 feels this and I see it through her need to be up to date with hair, fashion etc so as not to attract negative opinions. I think here that is the stress, trying not to be bullied by conforming. However, bullying here takes all those forms, physical, verbal, mental and of course cyber bullying through the social media. All of which are equally traumatic. I think that we may not have the extreams of violence that you have there but no doubt it will come. I also have my concerns about the honour system being used to bully people on here and I have expressed that concern openly.

I see valid points and posts for sure,but one thing I would say we should be careful about is the haves and havenots..I have seen way too many havenots bully a haves,simply because their daddys have money.I guess my point is,people will pick anything and use it as a weapon against a victim.

I think that,as parents,we need to teach our kids that it isnt right to make fun of those who are handicapped or different from ourselves.And I think we need to teach them self defense at a young age.Not for the fighting aspect persey,but I know from experience that learning a martial art of some type can teach us how NOT to fight .And it can teach us how to extract ourselves from certain situations and in some cases,defuse arguments etc.. If we really encourage our kids,enough to help them rise above the name calling and crapp...maybe it would help.
I know it did my kids.Theyve never had to worry about being bullied.It doesnt hurt to be observant too.And to know our kids well enough so when we see changes in behaviour,we can spot it and address it..

You bring up a very good point Oceanne in that, we typically think of bullying being the "haves" bullying the "have nots" but, there is a flip side and it is becoming more frequent in that, the "have nots" are bullying the "haves".

It's almost as if, it is "cool" to be the outcast.

I am thinking,that in spite of the reasons ,maybe we need to really just begin at home by paying attention to our kids and teaching them how to deal with and/or ignore bullies.No matter what the bully decides to pick on.WE as parents must find ways to encourage and help build the strengths that could help these kids deal with and stop peeps from bullying them.

Yes O, you are right, its the emotional impact of bullying that is the concern, to be resilient would be ideal.

Technically, it is usually the, "have not's" who end up being the bullies and not the, "have". A few kids I knew didn't have much of anything save an abusive parent. I think it is equal either way.

But no, I don't think being an outcast is either, "hip" or to be considered as, "cool" at all. If anything, it hurts on the inside and does undermine the self respect of any young adult.

Hey SS,you know,while being an outcast is not hip or cool,sometimes thats just the way it is.I should know.
And really? Its not so bad.So if we have kids who feel like outcasts? Maybe as parents,we should help kids understand that its ok to be an outcast.Mine did,and being one never got to me..I think because of the strength they gave me at home.

I feel sad that society has so many outcast groups or 'untouchables', but this behaviour is also reflected in the animal world so perhaps its our inate needs for hierarchy that is being revealed, survival of the fitest ?? what do you think?

It IS sad Luna..and even according to your own statement,so much more common that we care to think.We are all so different,yet so very much the same.To be an outcast is common.To want to and try to blaze our own trails..is common.

As I stated, I was outcasted, yeah. I was labeled a, "devil worshiper" after I had a parent/teacher conference and a school guidance councilor that didn't know jack. It did put a damper on my self esteem as a young adult. But I got over it and moved on.

And I do agree that all parents or at least most should start to teach older traditions of respecting your peers as well as your elders and to teach them to do the, "right thing" in all scenarios.

In all honesty I have to agree that bullying would be more prominent amongst those who feel a sense of lack of power. Whether it is at the social, economical or personal dynamic. The bullying may be a way for certain type of individuals to feel a false sense of empowerment. Thus, the “I have not.”

This observation of some possible bullying “criteria” is worthwhile to consider.

My friend's child and friends, have also been labeled as being, “devil possessed.” The Principle or any within the School District do nothing to alleviate the matter, whatever. Sadly, the parents and other community members, encourage the despicable behavior of these bullies.

Adding to ~Victorya's~ post, I have seen it before.

The encouragement of the, "bully" does happen by the parents and other school staff members. They often comment that the, "bullied" may see it as a growth or learning experience. That it should teach them (the bullied) to have more dignity and to stand up for themselves rather than being pushed around. Peer pressure if you will. I feel that this method is very harsh and should not be counted as a, "learning experience" in the least. Some children are devastated by this, leading to suicide or homicide, which ever the case may be if things like this continue as the posted article plainly shows.

I have seen that before also SS.And I think its a damn copout.Not to mention total BS.
Across the board.


I think its hard though.We blame teachers ,etc for their lack of action,yet laws and often parents pretty much put a big limit on what they can and cant do to the bullies as far as reprimanding them.

This one begins at home.

One thing I have read here on VR is those who claim to be vampires refering to people as Mundanes, this is a clear signal to mpeople that a faction of those who believe they are vampires take pleasure in brow beating those who are not "vampires". So let us not forget that sometimes the "bullied" are apt to bully as well.

I would always get bullied until I finally got fed up with it. I showed how I could really act, and that sent them flying. Nobody messes with me anymore. I had five people put in the hospital, and two who had to stay home. The school where I was at was a very redneck country school that took things like this easy. I got told not to do it again and that was it. If people start to bully my friends, all I have to do is walk up to them and say back off. They know my capablilities and that I'm not afrad to use them.

Absolutely agree that this deplorable bullying must be addressed and begins at home@Oceanne

Dabs, the whole point about being a bully is dominate and direct, Bows to thee as a former master.

We post the truth about the world crumpling upon itself shattering its inhabitance and you laugh? Whys so...I offer an Olive Branch...

Occasionally a willow the wisp flies by adding intelligence to insult, you as many react with incandescence flaming and fuming like a firefly showing off your plumes expecting some sort of adornation...
Instead we hunker down and consolidate ....
"Its oh so quiet , Hush, Hush....." you know the song.

Don't rock the Boat.

I have to agree with dabbler on this point. I too have seen the term "mundanes" thrown around VR by some claiming to be "vampires/yres."

It's as if they are wanting to say, "We are special and the rest of you are below us." They are just trying to find a socially acceptable way to say it.

The truth is, no one is any more "special" than anyone else. Every life counts for something.

Very true on the above points!!

I would just like to say something. We ARE all born equal,but I dont believe we die that way.Its what we do in life and to others that determines whether we end up better than someone else or not.
jmho

Simply declaring yourself to be a vampire or others as mundane isnt going to catapult you into something better.
And yes,I have seen those who claim vampire status bully those who are supposedly mundane.
Point is,I dont think it takes much to give a bully reasons to push others around.
They pick on anything that will give them the excuse.
The key is finding out why they feel they need to do it and keep an observeant eye on your kids for the red flags.

Oceanne, I think that what is done in a single life makes that life more or less note-worthy. I don't think it necessarily makes one "better" than the other.

I do understand what you mean though...a child-molester would seem to be a waste of human life. But even that life had a mother and father that cared for it.

Actually yes,the way you have put it is better.How we live and what we do is what makes us note worthy or not.

As for child molesters.I think its safe to say they live in hell right here on earth.Day in and day out.

Oh I agree (as to molesters). I am just making the point that at one time, their lives were once full of the same promise as anyone else.

A great phrase that is just about right,
'we are all born equal but some are more equal than others!!'

Well to me the term "mundane" is nothing other than a sort of "label" for easier communicaton. In other words to recognize one who is not vampyre.

At least I have never used the term mundane to belittle any, in any way.

However, it is a good point to bring up. As many persons have taken this term to mean "they are less." Which at least for me, this is not the case, at all that a vampire or any is better than others.

Different, I dare to say, yes. But better, as far as I am concerned, not at all.

I am glad this point was brought up. This way I would make sure that I am clearer to any who is not vampyre. That it may not be thought that if I use the term mundane is in any way to imply that they are less.

Victorya

The MUNDANE society, they are all sheep, cattle, FOOD!

(Don't mind my sense of humor)

But yes, ~Victorya~, I couldn't agree more.

This has been brought up so many times..yet never really answered except by one person really.
Different? How so?

And please,DONT EAT ME!! I am not food!!!



There are better terms and words the can be used to "communicate" Victorya.


AS everyone on this planet is MUNDANE,since there are in reality, no supernatural powers or abilities involved .
I do think though that something like this,as well as being a so called "devil worsipper" would give a bully excuse to push around though in schools and such.
Its a shame too.

~Oceanne~, mind if you can expand on that... same vs different area that you state only one person answered?

People have an inherent need to categorize everything in their lives... this leads to labels of every kind of which this society is no different.
The term "Mundane" is the same as "Normal" and is used in the same way as some vampire use the term "Swan" instead of "Donor." It is an internal language used to describe that person(s) relation to our community. For most within the vampiric community the term "mundane" carries no offensive or insulting/Insensitive meaning to it's use.
It only becomes a problem when it is used out of context by those wishing to elevate themselves to a position within our community for which they don't have. Admittedly role players are a real problem within our community, their lack of understanding in our ways and the falsehoods they perpetuate cause a lot of backlash for the rest of us. This intern makes it difficult for us to be open and honest about ourselves to those we consider to be outsiders.

It makes for a lot of bullies and victims on both side.

That was so well put Serv,I cant even add anything.

There are so many outside the community who are not "normal" by the normal sense of the word.

I havent been bullied for being a vampire. Because Im not one. But I have been targeted as "The chick we need to stick our penis into to make her straight" and that always sucked.

It is foolish to announce publicly what we are. On this site we can be open, so of you are harassed on this site I'll say block their ass. But publicly, no don't do something so dumb. Hollywood has influenced human to think we are so crazed beings. To many of them not enough of us to announce ourselves yet.

It's not necessarily foolish, ~Samantha~... just keep your wits about you because sometimes people do forget their place and will subconsciously bully you regardless, even if they don't mean it.

Come out by all means to people who you regularly trust. Just don't come out to anyone. This goes the same way for all astute minorities.

bullies need to see that show bully beatdown they mite change their mind.

People are cruel, I recently went through such an issue. and almost left my college because of it, but karma caught up with my Bully and I just let Karma settle the score I never fought back it's not in my nature to really be cruel I am different I know that but why should being different mean I'm a lesser being?

-TheWhiteRabbit

I ignore the bullies or if they get serious i look them dead in the eye and tell them that they can do whatever they want because i know that in the end ill be wealthy and beautiful forever and theyll grow old and work at mcdonalds. and walk away

Ok so you have a point I suppose. Keeping your wits is important and I can't nor will I try to force you to see it the way I do but in my exspirences it would be foolish. Sorry.

ive never been comfortable drawing attention to myself as something that is out of mainstream, so im quite happy living "in the coffin" as it were.

that said, its not because i fear bullies (im prior service army, and can handle bullies quite well), but because i just dont think its other peoples business. its not some one else's business if i sleep with men or women, and its no ones business if my relationships have another level than most peoples.

i much prefer to wear a mask, blend in, and not stress so much over life.
~W~

I've been bullied but not for being vampyre because I am not one. People give many excuses as to why they bully someone, often it is because of jealousy and being 'different' from their point of view. Ironically enough I was called wannabe vampire and I never claimed that I am or wanted to be one.

However the way some people on here portray themselves, they become easy targets. I'm not stating that is right or that I bully them myself, I'm just saying be careful how you present yourself, even on here.

Stating that you are a 1000 year old vampyre, who when angered can turn into a bat and suck blood to someone who lives on the other side of the planet, who is also the son/daughter of Satan, who also turns into a werewolf on the full moon, a zombie when they want to and also a powerful black witch, who also met Lestat and Edward but then never heard of Dracula, and every week you have a 'magical' symptom, etc...I'm sorry but like that you're being an easy target, even on a site like this. We're surely open-minded people who want to learn about the vampire/vampyre more, but c'on, we're not going to believe anything.

In fact I won't bully, I get interested about people stating their vampyre symptoms, and I know a few in the real life, but if anyone comes to me with phrases like the ones I mentioned, I'm going to ignore them.

From my point of view, the best cure for bullying and insensitivity to one's difference is a better understanding of diversity. We are the same in that we are different, some are religious while some are not and so on. To finally understand this would unify us but it's easier said than done I suppose.

Yeah the majority don't want to accept 'differences.' Many pretend everyone is like them, if not they're bad/socially unacceptable.

People prefer to choose to be elite instead and this goes on both sides.

I've seen people claiming they are inhumane and superior, I'm sorry but such phrases offend me. I see people with vampyre symptoms just the same as everyone, people with some symptoms just like any other symptoms, therefore if people want to be accepted, they also have to accept others. If you want to be treated equal, then behave equal and not act superior.

An Antidote for Bullies? I'm rather fond of Dirty Harry's rendition of "Do You Feel Lucky? Make My Day Punk." :)

Irregardless the notion for being bullied, the truth, as I see it..people bully and segregate those from the main pack that do not "fit." Often, it has nothing to do with the kids themselves but for the parents and communities who raise them out of ignorant assumptions that don't amount to a royal hill of beans.

Try starting fresh out of Kindergarten being separated from the other kids on the playground by teachers or having parents grab their children away from playing with you because they might "catch" your epilepsy? What? Shall we catch Vampirism from the kids who dress up in black?

Whether you find yourself called a Devil Worshipper, or in my case, "Devil Possessed" for having a seizure disorder, the base rules of bullying comes down to 2 major criteria.

1. Ignorance and Fear

and

2. The Need to Exert Powerful Authority Over Fear


It is a shame that many never feel supported enough to stand up against such oppression, but as I'm sure many here already know, our human psyche can often be an easily manipulated open book for others to take advantage of, even to the point of convincing those being bullied that they deserve it.

I was bullied in school and I am talked about at work now but not really bullied. I never really responded to it because I didn't think it mattered. It affects my self esteem but that sucked anyway so no bid deal. I think the antidote for it is for people to learn to accept people for who they are not what you want them to be.

I was bullied through grade 8-10. From day one I was given the nickname Wednesday Adams. I had my front two teeth knocked out of my mouth. I was held down whilst girls shaved my head and my eyebrows off.

I had a complete nervous breakdown at the age of 15.
It doesn't matter what school you attend... I was at one of the most prestigious girls school in my state.

I recently received an invitation to an upcoming reunion. I considered turning down the invitation, but I am going to go.

FUCK YOU... YOU HATED ME IN HIGHSCHOOL, BUT NOW I'M FUCKING FABULOUS.

I am going to walk in like I own the damn place.

As you should.

If I were to receive some sort of invitation to a scholastic reunion, I wouldn't be there to impress. I would be there to watch and to remember. I doubt it would happen though, that was such a very, very long time ago and my childhood is something not light on the heart.

Bullies will always be here, unfortunately. And with the internet, bullying has become even worse.

From elementary to middle school, I wasn't so much bullied as I was ignored; being a non-entity actually saved me from a lot of bullying. There were two girls in the 7th grade who did pick on me though...and when I had enough and went bat shit crazy on one - ie pounding her head on the classroom floor - the bullying pretty muched stopped. From that, I used my 'craziness' to my advantage, as the next school I went to - for the 8th grade - was pretty rough. My sister and I let students believe that we were in and out of institutions (we weren't), and voodoo practicioners to boot. No one picked on us.
And I must add - it is true that for the most part, schools don't do shit to help those students who suffer from bullying.

Oh yes - my antidote to supply in regards to bullying:

I think that the parents of bullies should bear the brunt of their spawns' behavior though, from fines to actual jail time...the brats too. If enough money and freedom is taken from them, maybe they will think twice before ignoring and/or contributing to the problem.

To paraphrase a Killswitch Engage track: Through understanding of our differences, we will find respect for one another for we are all flesh and blood. Easier said than done though.

Oh - Seshat - You go, girl!

I ignored my high school reunion invites as well; I went to a school where there was still racial tension, with rich snobby kids. I actually replied to one invite with - "My time in school pretty muched sucked, so stop mailing me crap."

Kudos on planning to go though!

I have never experienced being bullied, yet I have stopped others from bullying. I have never felt a need to have others freely condemn me for sport; it was never in their best interest and some know why. I draw a line and if it is crossed there is always a consequence and it is never good.

people tried to make fun of me and ended up looking stupid,because all they could thenk of to say was,"you think you're a vampire?huhuhuhuhu...."really it was just annoying

Bullying is a part of life. People are always going to be bullied whether it's in school, work, home... There is always someone bigger who is going to throw their weight around just because they think they can. You either get tougher for it and show them who's really boss or you hide in the corner and cry like a coward. I'm all for helping kids learn how to deal with bullies but trying to take the bullying completely out of schools is never going to work. And let's just say that that it somehow did happen... You're setting your child up for failure later in life because they won't know how to deal with that kind of behavior. If it becomes just too unbearable that's what no contact orders and the buddy systems are for. You do what you can to survive and deal with the all the crap that comes with it.

Bullies normlay have one weakness. That weakness is they care about what other people think about them. The easiest way to get rid of some one giving you a hard time over your prefance to male or female relationships is to turn the tables. Make them out to look like what they hate. You can attack bullies but anger breeds anger. You may find yourself fighting the rest of your life. You may turn them over to a teacher/boss or other athority; however this will most likely anger them and the threats will certainly increase. Public humliation however can scar a person for life. Tear them down make them cry in front of there pears with a little research and asking around your area you will learn about a persons personal life or maybe just the live of someone they care for. This may be heartless and crule but once a bully finds his/her self under the same attack they held over you then a leason can be taught. If some one confronts you about your sexal prefance then turn the tables on them and confront them with theres, even a straight homophobe can be made out to look bi/homosexal. sence most bullies fallow one of there parents idea of normal that is always a good place to start. (example. stash some adult pics in there personal belongings and get a teacher to find them. The bullies parents will be called and they will from that point on be under the hatefull eye of the very people that made them the way they are. This would also have an effect in school once the cosip started flowing around the halls.)

Bullies should be incarcerated. That's the antidote. They break laws. They scar, they abuse, and they defile. These aren't even morals here. They break every rule and are looked up to while the Bullied get praised for their tolerance.