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I would like to know more about energy manipulation.How to manifest it?
How to distribute energy?
How to drain it?

In a nutshell-I'm fascinated with the whole concept of energy manipulation and i would like to know more about it....

And please no role playing....

Thank you...

thank you..Martial arts is one way for controlling and manifesting energy.I myself am a practitioner of kalari payittu.I am not sure whether you have heard of it so here's a little info
Kalaripayattu - The Orient's treasure trove, a gift to the modern world and the mother of all martial arts. Legend traces the 3000-year-old art form to Sage Parasurama- the master of all martial art forms and credited to be the re-claimer of Kerala from the Arabian Sea. Kalaripayattu originated in ancient South India. Kung- fu, popularized by the monks of the Shoaling Temple traces its ancestry to Bodhi Dharma - an Indian Buddhist monk and Kalaripayattu master.

Crafted in ancient South India drawing inspiration from the raw power and sinuous strength of the majestic animal forms - Lion, Tiger, Elephant, Wild Boar, Snake, and Crocodile ........ Kalaripayattu laid down the combat code of the Cholas, the Cheras and the Pandyas. Shrouded in deep mystery and mists of secrecy Kalaripayattu was taught by the masters in total isolation, away from prying eyes.


I would like to know about other energy manipulation techniques other than martial arts....

honestly I would say, that energy being what it is, and subjective to the will, you may want to study types esoterics that allow you focus your will..

Mind you that when you are able to will the energy into form, it then be not what you have done but what you do with it...333

thanx for the comment on my profile

Anytime man...

And hee hee not to worry i wish to use it in a constructive way not to destroy the world....

Are you looking to create mass from energy? i.e. fire out of seemingly nowhere?

That will be fun.....

Yeah i'm talking about all kinds of energy...
But is that possible?

study esp and other mentalist type gifting...they are all about energy and harnessing it...

So far, I haven't found a way to do that. Sorry. Currently I'm concentrating on more mundane forms of energy commonly dubbed Occult - Hypnotism, Herbalism, and Astrology - and I'm still in theory mode even with that. I have a wordy journal entry outlining my primary theory and I'll soon be posting another one regarding Astrology and Physiology.

Your martial art has been traced by archaeologists and historians to the pankration martial art of the ancient greeks... more specifically the macedonian army of alexander the great... I studied chi manipulation from a taoist priest... it can be used for martial arts purposes but is mainly a species of black medicine... it can be used to heal but also to draw energy for the invocation of the ascended immortals...

i have witnessed my self to distripute little masses of energy so there for i is not impossible to do so it can very well be done and if u learn and practice u will succceed

To Uzziel

Kalari payittu is the first martial art to be discovered here on earth.Greeks had combat training which is very different from martial arts.Buddhist monks who came to India flicked it and took it to the shaolin temple where it came to be known as Kung fu....

And thank you for your replies but my thirst is still not quenched....I would appreciate it if you could explain me the details behind your practices and not just the names...

Ok let me see if I can help a little bit here. The trick is to be aware of the energy. Usually the easiest way to do this is to become aware of your own and then gradually that of everything else around you. You can do that through various means: martial arts, meditation, etc what ever works for you.
As for manipulating it. As has been stated it largely lies in your will (when it is not natural) so things like the practice exercises for ESP and simple spells that start you out with props (which are just amplifiers really) might help.
All in all though it is really personal.
Also why would you want to know how to drain energy?

To BloodSymphony

Thank you for replying....
As for your question last time i had posted a thread to know the real definition of today's vampires and i came to know that there are blood drinking(through donors) and energy draining vampires....Since then i had a wish to know more about the energy draining types.I have been told not to take in excess energy as it is harmful....And i shall abide by it...

Do you believe in the effects of Reiki?

Of course i do.My mom is a practitioner of Reiki and i do believe in it a lot considering the fact that my mom has healed me a lot of times....

Draining and conveying energy should follow the same pathways. I would suggest you start by training with your mother and learn Reiki. It would be a natural progression from there to learn how to drain.

Reiki is also a good means. In fact your mom might be able to help you out. Above all the important thing is control once you 'know' energy.
Good luck to you

I know nothing about this, sorry. But it is interesting to learn about. Thanks to all the posts

To wolfsbohne and bloodsymphony

I had asked my mum about the energy draining part but she told me that it is not possible...But i do suspect that she told me so because Reiki is about healing...She must have thought me in my 'stupid,cheerful,irresponsible teenage years' would use it in a very selfish way.....
And i'm living away from my mum so i can't learn it from her.....(I'm in college and she's back home)

And as for bloodynightmares lease do not apologize.This is a place for gaining knowledge about things we seek...

It isn't the first martial art discovered at all... what of the boxing exhibited on egyptian tombs? or the fighting stances of the sumerians as shown in their sculpture? what of aboriginal cave drawings? the warrior skills of the elohim in defeating the fallen? how can you distinguish martial arts from war arts? .... the notion that india created it all is just martial arts snobbery... I could just as easily say that indian martial arts are just yoga stretching techniques... It seems kalari has embraced the same dogma that asserts that all kung fu is of the shaolin temple... incidentally the exercises introduced by Bodidharma consisted of the 18 moves of the arhat... a series of stretching exercises with no combat application... it seems that if Bodidharma did know any fighting techniques he was unable to teach anyone what they were... and besides, if the indian army of alexander's time was so well versed in centuries of martial arts... why did Alexander defeat the indian army with a so very much smaller army? If kalari is so steeped in centuries of experience how come you never see it in the octagon? whereas you do see pankration doing very well in that sphere? Pankration is not a martial art? Tell that to Bas Rutten and come back with his answer. Think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this aspect of your thread Bub...

supposedly chi quan works great using the magnetic power from the earth to use as u will,ive seen a guy transfer his weight out of his body and walk on water,start a fire with his hands...

theres hardly such a thing......not the way your talking about atleast..if you wanna manipulate energy...fuck with your lightswitch.

oh and...distribute energy with an electrical outlet. drain energy by running. haha.

I think there is something in the database about this, and I think there might be a member article I am not sure but I think it will contain alot of useful info. I my self don't really know that much about the manipulation of energy.

there are some good energy articles in the member article section by stabb666 which are very inclusive in starting points.

personally, energy manipulation is one of my strong suits and it started with first distinguishing energy from a fart in the wind.

My dear friend Uzziel

It seems very clear to me that you have not studied any form of martial art and that you have just copy pasted a lot of info you found on the net.Martial arts is different from normal combat forms.Anyone can pick up a stick and beat the shit out of the other.Martial arts is called so because it is a form of ART.....There is something called choreography.The body moves in a fluid motion all the while defending himself.Can you call boxing a martial art?

One of the actual last recorded documentation of kalari was about 3000 years ago.Kalari has been written about even in our religious mythologies.Since no one knows if it all actually happened its not taken into account...

Heh heh and as for your theory that kalari are just yoga stretching exercises well it just cemented my belief that you know nothing about kalari.....There are two types of kalari...northern and southern.One deals with weapons while the other teaches you how to fight with your bare limbs.Its based on chakras and energy manipulation.Kalari teaches you to open a small pouch which is under your abdomen thereby releasing an explosive amount of energy which the athletes refer to as the second wind....
In kalari you can kill your opponent by merely pointing your finger at him.Before you misinterpret this and post more irrevelant stuff i'll make it clear to you..Every body has a circle of energy around him/her.In kalari (The very last stage of kalari) you learn to manipulate this stream of energy into your fingers and then you throw it at one of your opponents marmas(which are basically chakras) thereby killing him or maiming him for life....

As for your Alexander the great question?Kalari is taught only to those who are worthy of it.In ancient India it was just taught within the family.Kalari is not like kung fu or karate.A true master of kalari will
condemn popularization of the art because it is not taught with the intention of making one famous or so.....Alexander the great fought the different tribes in the nothern valley,kalari was in the southern region.Alexander fought with the Kamboja clans—the Aspasios of Kunar/Alishang valleys, the Guraeans of the Guraeus (Panjkora) valley, and the Assakenois of the Swat and Buner valleys and Alexander could only win through means of political stratagem and betrayal.After winning against these clans he went on to the Indus where he fought with a local ruler named Raja Puru...An epic battle followed ander after alexander won he made an alliance with Raja Poru.He did so because he was very impressed by the way the Indian ruler fought....East of Poru's kingdom laid the mighty kingdoms of Magadha and the Nandha dynasty.Alexander feared facing another powerful army and decided not to invade India anymore.....

Therefore i have just proved myself right...So you will have to agree that you were wrong posting such rubbish based on the aspect of my thread...BUB


Please write something substantial,something which you know personally about not crap you read from here and there.Its a huge world everyone will have their own views and opinions about things they cant fathom....Therefore an individual has to experience it to know more....

Have a nice day...

Yes i have read the member articles but i wish to know more...Thats why i started this thread...

Thanks for replying....

Yes i have read the member articles but i wish to know more...Thats why i started this thread...

Thanks for replying....

perhaps it would be wise to state what it is about energy that you wish to know? then people can answer you more directly.

i state that because "manipulation" and "gathering" is a bit of a wide focus. if you state what you wish to do with it, that might help me formulate a better answer for you.

I can only advise what valentinesheart
has mentioned ealier about the member articles....I mention it again only is case you missed it.

Valentinesheart

What i wish to know is exactly what you have described above.....But i would love it if you could explain the same points in greater detail....

Thank you....

Please feel free to write anything about energy?
How to sense it?
How to absorb it?

have you ever rubbed your hands together for warmth? congratulations... through the process of friction, you have succeeded in stirring up the energy that flows through your hands.

now, take that sensation and follow it through to the source of where it comes from. that slight warmth is the energy that courses through you. it has strong ties to blood and the blood network, but it's more subtle than that.

rub your hands together vigorously and then slowly move them apart while they are facing each other. move apart until you start to lose the sensation of something in between them. then focus on filling that space in between.

soon, you achieve a subtle sense of energy; it is more than heat, it is like a wind that blows in windless areas. it is all around, and emanates from all things.

feel free to privately message me.

Well I have no idea.

didnt alexander the great fight using pancration ? or am i thinking of someone else.(half asleep)

I don't know anything about this sorry bro.

meditation is the key

meditation is only a starting point in which you learn the ability of focus...333

My two cents...

If you wish to call upon the Universal energies for manifestation to you conveance, I would suggest a study in Thaumaturgy, as I do practice the Shodokan-Aikido, I can relate to the energy atuned through such art. The manifestation of the energy you wish to apply is mostly for healing purposes. Sometimes it may be used to summon, but that is only if you are very atune to such energetic ways ie. practicing for years. Thaumaturgy is the route you seem to be looking for. I may be wrong.

Energy is the power through which all Magick is worked. Our very beings. Meditation and Visiualisation are the beginings of energy manipulation. These are even the basics of most if not all martial arts forms. It takes will and strength to bend and form the energy to your will. All comes from the inner being. Focusing your will on the energy that already exists inside yourself to manipulate the energy that exists outside.

if u want to manipulate energy drink a MONSTER the assault one taste lyk coke haha

Gautham

You really are a legend in your own mind aren't you? A classic wannabe academic of the wikipedia “because I say so school”... your definition of martial arts reduces martial artists to the status of ballerinas and espouses the view that effective combat techniques do not constitute martial arts... I have studied the martial arts (karate, kung fu and silat) since I was four years old... and I spent six years of my adult life working as a close protection operative in Hong Kong... I have had the honour to be trained by some of the greatest and most humble martial arts practitioners alive today... I have experienced chi manipulation both in a combat setting and as a healing tool (its primary purpose)... Mythologies? The only mythology here is your insistence on one singular martial art as the “first and the last”... How can anyone who seeks enlightenment be so pig ignorant towards the martial arts of other practitioners? Are you truly holding up to intelligent scrutiny the assertion that Ali was not a martial artist? That he was just a thug beating on others? One of the greatest civil rights and religious freedom icons of our age was not a martial artist? Frighteningly ignorant and deeply insulting to the African Americans who have struggled so hard to assert themselves in an age of ignorance and prejudice.... To deny the status of martial art to boxing is deeply offensive to the african-americans who have overcome slavery and prejudice to rise to the top of the sport... You don't even know your own martial art! Northern and Southern martial arts (as in China) are not distinguished by their use of weaponry (weapons in the north and bare hand in the south) as you suggest... but by climate... the colder, more extreme climate of the north favours more robust and less economic moves because of the simple expedient of keeping warm... while the more malarial southern climate favours more economy of motion to conserve energy... Finger pointing to cause death. HAHAHA. Chinese kung fu had this same fakirist nonsense in its Vagabond Kung Fu... but as Dr Leung Ting has already shown... this is utter nonsense... HAHAHA Ah yes! The old “we are so brilliant we don't tell anyone about our skills or test our techniques in combat line... I am sure that there are many talented fighters in India with noteworthy skills who are deeply humble... pity that hasn't travelled from India also... Alexander did not retreat from India because he was afraid to continue... have you not heard or read (yes there are books out there... they tend to be made of paper and have writing on them...) “And he wept for there were no more lands for him to conquer” Alexander didn't make an alliance out of fear... he did so because his men were fed up and wanted to go home... You have proved nothing... as for the assertion that I should speak about something I know personally... are you really saying that you were there in India 3,000 years ago? I'm happy to admit I was not...you I'm not so sure about... since you think that you are god perhaps you think you were there... You will never, ever achieve any state of enlightenment until you recognise that you don't know it all... a story from Hindu lore to finish... a prostitute was looking out of her window when she saw a monk praying... Oh God, she prayed, I wish I was wise and holy like that monk...the monk was looking out of his window and saw the prostitute... Oh God, he said, thank heavens I am not ignorant and wicked like that whore... the prostitute was the only one to go to heaven that night! Think about it...

Pray do tell who were the great martial arts practitioner who taught you...

Dear Uzziel
I know for sure that whatever you have posted above is just copied from somewhere.I have not referred to kalari as the first and the last martial art.I know that each martial art is unique in its own way...All i said was that it was the first and i do respect all the different kinds of martial arts....And i know many people in V.R who have studied martial arts and they seem to have the same opinion as me.....As for Ali he wasn't a martial artist he was a boxer....BOXING is a SPORT not a MARTIAL ART......And dude by saying so i'm not insulting the African Americans.......Its kind of fascinating how you actually bend and twisted everything i wrote into your bullshit..I admire you for that.....And dude your stupidity never fails to ammuse me.....I was reffering to Kalari and not the martial arts in China
[You don't even know your own martial art! Northern and Southern martial arts (as in China) are not distinguished by their use of weaponry (weapons in the north and bare hand in the south) as you suggest... but by climate... the colder, more extreme climate of the north favours more robust and less economic moves because of the simple expedient of keeping warm... while the more malarial southern climate favours more economy of motion to conserve energy...]

ANd hahahahahhahahahaaaa i wish you would come to India and then you can see for yourself whether the finger pointing death thingy works....I'm sure my master would be glad to prove it to you....Its not as if you have a life or something right?

And about Alexander aborted his invasion because he didn't want to face another Indian Army since his troops were already battered by the previous battle.....And i'm so happy to know that you know what books are.......Thats probably the only sensible thing you written....


Look dude i now know that you're full of crap...So please dont bother posting here anymore....When i want to laugh i'll tell you...


See dude i have no intentions of fighting with you.....You have your own views and i have my own....Maybe you're right...Maybe i am....We'll never know who's right or who's wrong.....So no hard feelings..Lets end this like Gentlemen.....

What say?

You are neither courteous nor receptive to courtesy... if you had any respect for your master then you would not stain his honour by associating him with this juvenile polemic... I have extended you every courtesy and opportunity to engage in an adult dialogue, this is clearly beyond you... difference of opinion is precisely that... and it is the hallmark of a democracy that all opinion is valid, not led by a core of fanatics telling everyone else what they should do or think... perhaps you should consider anger managment classes or read "how to win friends and influence people"... oh I'm sorry... they're not martial arts are they? Enlighten you... I think that an exercise in futility...

Oh Jeez there you go again.....Fine You're right you know everything......

All hail Uzziel.......

There you happy now?

Since our views are never going to match i have but one request please do not post in my threads from now on.....Half of this thread is filled with baseless fights.Hence i would appreciate it if you stop fighting.....

Peace......


And about the anger management .....maybe i should go......I do have a problem with anger......

Please do ignore the other post...It was written by a complete idiot...Yeah thats me....I offer my apology to Uzziel for starting a baseless argument.....

Gautham is justly proud of his martial arts heritage... and his thread is thought provoking in its objective... if I have diverted attention from that then for my part I apologise to the readers also...

Do you recall the "magic eye" 3D pictures that were popular in the nineties? they can teach us a great deal about things spiritual. if you looked at the picture to find the 3D image, it eluded you. it was only when you looked beyond the picture that the image materialised before you. think of this when you try to see and feel the energy you seek.

Thank you......That is true....

Tough topic, but I do have a shotcut to the point. Energy is maintained in the spirit and emotions primarily. Finding a link between you and the recipient in either of these conditions will allow you to consume/manipulate or otherwise alter the energy of the person. The hard part is forcing the person to do it to themself, because this is always the case. They give it freely, even though they believe it forced. Just twist the concept in their mind, and down it pours.