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I'm extremely interested in current vampiric thinking . I think the majority are only scraping the surface of what's really possible . For beings of a supposedly advanced awareness of energy related subjects , i think some areas that are glaringly obvious are overlooked . Take for example the link between vampirism and the recently deceased , doesn't that supposed link suggest a link between vampirism and the undead in a more etheral dynamic than the current movie adaptations suggest . I'd like to know peoples opinions on this ? . Is the vampire of legend a physical creature or an etheral one ?

What if being undead meant being dead and ghostly but aware of it and able to control your ghostly form to effect a draining of energy in that respect rather than physically draining blood . Instead of a physical animated corpse a vampiric undead soul form .

I'd like like to know peoples thoughts on this ? , or any threads of thought that relate to this question ?

I believe that Undead refers to Zombies who have been brought back from the dead to do the practitioners bidding. You are correct that Vampyres are ethereal beings that feed on humans. I also believe they can take on a human body and posses it so they can stay in the physical for as long as the body they posses allows them to (as long as it lives). However human body's can only live for maybe 100 or so years now a days so they then must find another.

I do no believe undead is a good term to refer to a vampyre as. Zombie would be better for that term. As read above possession not quite. Try more like an uncanny ability to get what we want.

I wouldn't call vampires undead. I would call them "re-awakened." If a vampire couldn't attack physically, they'd be called a psychic vampire-vampires that attack energy.

Hope I helped. I may not have read the question correctly.

its all semantics. there is the living vampire, and the actual undead.
i personally believe based on my research that the undead vamp is actually a ghost that leaves its body, and needs energy from the living to be able to exist. its not count dracula or lestat, but a mindless thing that slowly kills family members and others close to it.
~W~

"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, and that the living spring from the dead." -Socrates

Smart man. "Living springing from the dead". Hm, i know it's taken as a quote for reincarnation but there are vampiric souls whom believe to be reincarnated on VR i'm most positive of that.

Death and Life go hand in hand. It is a constant so perhaps at some point in time, they decided to mesh together and thus vampires were born?

Undead, that doesn't some that die and is back..well, vampires don't die like Zombies. Vampire are creatures who love the taste of blood, like many love the taste of Bacardi rum. Also, many Vampire group, have gathering to celebrate the awakening of the new members with a celebration, which include, for sure, Blood. But, undead, never.

If you are discussing vampires such as Bram Stoker's Dracula, the term "un-dead" ABSOLUTELY fits.

A vampire such as Dracula or Lestat has experienced "physical" death and come back to "life". That is the very definition of "un-dead."


un·dead
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adjective
1.
no longer alive but animated by a supernatural force, as a vampire or zombie.

*Definition from: Dictionary.com

Like a lot of words that crop up, once many people start using it, it becomes common place for a certain meaning but unfortunately it may mean different things depending on the culture.

There is a lot of mythology of what people are now calling the vampire and like most superstitions the word became applied to many happenings. If a woman hemorrhaged after childbirth it was attributed to a vampire. Various things dealing with the death process was attributed to the corpse getting up and walking around seeking blood. There are some stories that say the vampire did not leave the grave but projected themselves seeking either blood and/or lifeforce. Many times they terrorized their own villages seen in the night or the day. Then there are stories of someone killing their families called undead or vampire and quite frankly it reads as if someone was buried alive and dug their way out and took vengence on their family. They know people were mistakenly buried and that is how the practice of the wake began.

We have cases now of people coming out of comas after numerous years and some having their hearts stop and coming back quite a long time after being declared dead by medical staff. We simply cannot quantify death in all cases.

Then we have the term ressurection. Taken generically, it means the state of one risen from the dead. If one person could do it, why not others? Would that mean they were the undead or vampires? I personally don't believe in undead as defined in books and movies but I do believe that people can be declared dead and reawaken. Many times the person has changed in their demeanor such as the case of Dannion Brinkley. For me I don't think it has anything to do with blood and/or energy seeking. I think that is all myth.

Tribal groups had blood rites and the Celts were head hunters. Some tribes fought at night and slept during the day and all of this combined created the idea of the mythological/literary vampire or the undead. They can now tell those who ate human flesh and drank blood. As far as cannibalism everyone in antiquity is supposed to have been involved in that at one time yet, they attribute it to a sign of werewolves in the past. I think the word undead is attributed to ideas we have had to try to explain some things we don't understand about life and death and nothing more.