.
VR
Lilith
General Discussion
•  General Discussion Home  •   Forums Home  •



darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:40:01 Jan 16 2006
Read 821 times

Have any of you researched her, dreamt of her, have any comments on her etc?

Plus i was researching a bit and found some verses on her. Enjoy.

from The Message (bible)
Isaiah 34:14
Wildcats and hyenas will hunt together, demons and devils dance through the night. The night-demon Lilith, evil and rapacious, will establish permanent quarters.

The Darby Translation (bible)
Isaiah 34:14
And there shall the beasts of the desert meet with the jackals, and the wild goat shall cry to his fellow; the lilith also shall settle there, and find for herself a place of rest.

That's all i could find Bible-wise on her.




•  REPLY  •


mrd
mrd
Sire (107)
Posts: 364
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
20:42:27 Jan 16 2006
Read 816 times

I recommend reading the 'Alphabet of Ben Sira'. Interesting stuff indeed. Dated somewhere between the 8th and 10th centuries, so it is said.

- D



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:43:10 Jan 16 2006
Read 814 times

Thank you for the recommendation :)



•  REPLY  •


Zani
Zani
Antagonist (37)
Posts: 0
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Limbus Patrum (Coven) is a member of an Alliance

Member of Limbus Patrum (Coven)
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
20:43:24 Jan 16 2006
Read 813 times

I've never even heard of her---but since thats in the buybull, i'll have to check it out. :)
hmmm...would it be also categorized as Lilith Queen of Darkness?
-Zani



•  REPLY  •


mrd
mrd
Sire (107)
Posts: 364
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
20:44:26 Jan 16 2006
Read 809 times

Judaic demoness, is perhaps a better term.

- D



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:45:46 Jan 16 2006
Read 806 times

I could only find her in the 2 bibles mentioned above. The others didn't contain her name at all. So i was wondering where did the story come from about her being Adam's first wife and her leaving the garden of Eden etc....?



•  REPLY  •


Omerta
Omerta

No Longer Registered
20:47:18 Jan 16 2006
Read 802 times

The are a few threads on this. Some contain quite a bit of information. But in general she was the first wife of adam, was banished from garden of ededn, and then became the queen of darkness.



•  REPLY  •


Batchyld
Batchyld

No Longer Registered
20:47:38 Jan 16 2006
Read 800 times

There are many threads or at least a few about lillith ..try using the forum search and see what it pulls up.Lots of info there :) More then 15 threads to be more exact.



•  REPLY  •


mrd
mrd
Sire (107)
Posts: 364
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
20:47:54 Jan 16 2006
Read 799 times

I know of her from Mesopotamian myth as well, but I'd have to do some reading ot give any more details.

- D



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:48:05 Jan 16 2006
Read 798 times

MRD: I guess what you mentioned would answer my question huh? LOL



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:50:24 Jan 16 2006
Read 793 times

well not speaking in just reference to books, but also personal experience too like some people view her to be their dark mother, dreamt of her etc. Was wondering if i was alone on this or not.



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:53:07 Jan 16 2006
Read 788 times

Batchyld: thank you for pointing that out. I wasn't even aware of the search forum down below until now LOL



•  REPLY  •


mrd
mrd
Sire (107)
Posts: 364
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
20:53:51 Jan 16 2006
Read 786 times

Interesting, I found this, thought it might be of use to some of you.

www.lilitu.com



•  REPLY  •


Batchyld
Batchyld

No Longer Registered
20:55:08 Jan 16 2006
Read 783 times

Your Welcome Darkmothertrinity.My pleasure to help out :)

MrD that's a great link for info!



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
20:55:45 Jan 16 2006
Read 781 times

yay! more material. thank you again MRD.



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
21:05:27 Jan 16 2006
Read 774 times

This reminds me of the fall of lucifer type of ordeal as well. I'll explain.

If adam was just a mortal man, then Lilith would have been as well. Apparently she got her name by going elsewhere and having sex with "demons"? I'm a little confused. How did the demons get there in the first place? This God would have created them too. How else would you explain that story?

Lucifer is a 'lightbringer'. That doesn't sound evil to me but it seems that whenever someone goes against this "God" their descriptions change to something more negative.

You agree?



•  REPLY  •


mrd
mrd
Sire (107)
Posts: 364
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
21:12:16 Jan 16 2006
Read 768 times

The placement of Lucifer in Isiah is actually a mistranslation of the word meaning 'howl'. This word is found at least 72 other times in the old testament. And never once speaks of Lucifer..the passage actually refers to a King.

- D



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
21:27:47 Jan 16 2006
Read 760 times

i never knew that.....



•  REPLY  •


mrd
mrd
Sire (107)
Posts: 364
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Vampire Rave member for 20 years.
22:47:50 Jan 16 2006
Read 746 times

I suggest going to the following page..you'll have to read down a ways. This guy, while Christian..does make some great points of tearing apart traditional Christian fallacies.

http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html

Hope you enjoy.

- D



•  REPLY  •


memnochthedevil
memnochthedevil
Behemoth (65)
Posts: 92
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Limbus Patrum (Coven) is a member of an Alliance

Member of Limbus Patrum (Coven)
Vampire Rave member for 21 years.
09:50:51 Jan 17 2006
Read 719 times

Supposedly, Lilith was the first wife of Adam, and she was created, like him, from dirt. She was the first feminist also, I'd just like to add.
When they 'lay' together, Adam would always demand to be on top, and Lilith underneath him, because she should be subservient. Good husband he was, heh. But she refused, saying that since they were equal, they should have equal turns on top and underneath. Adam did not like this, so he ran crying to God.
Adam wanted a wife that would be subservient, Lilith didn't want to be, so God kicked her out of Eden and made Eve from Adams rib.
Lilith then went off to breed copiously with demons and the like, creating the 'Lilim', or succubus, if you like.

At least, this is what I have found out by my research. But I can't quote any sources, because its all in my head.

Now an interesting little tidbit of information, or some useless trivia, is that in the anime series Neon Genesis Evangelion they refer to man as 'Lilim'... So does this mean that the creator of this series sees us as demons? Interesting. Or useless. You decide!



•  REPLY  •


scionofrequiem
scionofrequiem
Viper (75)
Posts: 540
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Member of Legion (Coven)
Vampire Rave member for 21 years.
10:02:56 Jan 17 2006
Read 716 times

I hate to be the bearer of bad news yet the Lilith thread has been done I believe twice with alot of indepth descriptions done by me and many other members here on the rave. Not sure if this will be kept open, but for the most part the whole Lillith research has been over killed in my opinion.

- Sin



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
10:03:47 Jan 17 2006
Read 714 times

thank u for the responses and resources mentioned :)



•  REPLY  •


darkmothertrinity
darkmothertrinity

No Longer Registered
10:04:51 Jan 17 2006
Read 713 times

all threads have to come to a halt at some point so...i see the death awaiting shortly LOL



•  REPLY  •


scionofrequiem
scionofrequiem
Viper (75)
Posts: 540
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Member of Legion (Coven)
Vampire Rave member for 21 years.
10:12:42 Jan 17 2006
Read 710 times

That happens often when it comes down to the same ideal threads. I mean its great to get another point, yet when it comes and goes in like three different threads in the last three months then it tends to get over played and looses its flavor and the desire to even look any more.

I know personally there is probably more information on Lillith out there, yet I will leave that for the Wife to look up since Lillith is her whole deal.

- Sin



•  REPLY  •


STABB666
STABB666
Superior Sire (140)
Posts: 1,517
Honor: 0
[ Give / Take ]
Member of The House of La Bella Oscuridad
Vampire Rave member for 21 years.
13:20:19 Jan 17 2006
Read 703 times

Point in case.

:)



•  REPLY  •



• • • • THIS THREAD IS CLOSED • • • •
•  Closed by STABB666 on Jan 17 2006  •

•  General Discussion Home  •   Forums Home  •

COMPANY
REQUEST HELP
CONTACT US
SITEMAP
REPORT A BUG
UPDATES
LEGAL
TERMS OF SERVICE
PRIVACY POLICY
DMCA POLICY
REAL VAMPIRES LOVE VAMPIRE RAVE
© 2004 - 2026 Vampire Rave
All Rights Reserved.
Vampire Rave is a member of 
Page generated in 0.3024 seconds.
X
Username:

Password:
I agree to Vampire Rave's Privacy Policy.
I agree to Vampire Rave's Terms of Service.
I agree to Vampire Rave's DMCA Policy.
I agree to Vampire Rave's use of Cookies.
•  SIGN UP •  GET PASSWORD •  GET USERNAME  •
X