Many of the responses to the thread prove just how judgmental some here are
I do not feel that it is judgemental to be honest. That sort of thing is disgusting and a serious breech of good sense. It is a crime against humanity and frankly, it should be a crime in the justice system as well.
I wouldn’t take it personal.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion ....
And their 'loved ones'...
Even Titty Bang Bang had a necro sketch
The opinion of all was asked. It did not have a guideline of non-judgemental opinions only.
I would have to agree with the nature of this thread. It does bring good point about the nature of how close minded even people of this "nonconservative" community really are.
If they are here because of their interest in vampires, or as a hobby, or as a passing fancy to join a forum. That is all fine and good. But when these High level members who have been around for long enough to be able to learn the types of things that educated reading of the forums and other information from other sources.
Yes, they probably know who who they are. However, having such a mentality that what they are and what they are here for only goes so far....is a big sign as to the nature of their own Hipocrasy. Its not funny to call people sick. Its not kind, nor is it welcome. To those who have done this, it is a slight on themselves as well as to the people they are referring.
This is supposed to be a place where we come together to share and comment on informed thought, Not idle prattle about sickness and mental health. You people who do such, are just as warped if not more so then the people who comment on such threads, as you are living hipocrasies.
You claim to be open minded, but in your soul, your the same bigot as the right wing xtian who hates and fears anything they do not know. Only where as they have an excuse for being such a vapid hole of ignorance, You members who have been here for even one day should know better.
When I see level 5 members and above, esp the paying members of this site. Be so cruel to a community they seek to be apart of. Its not only sad, but a slap in the face to themselves. As it shows the nature of their character. To run and hid in the shadows of the internet away from the light of the world.
However this is not the case. It seems that in places like this, not just on these website that people tend to forget. That a forum brings Life experiences to a group, to grow. What is happening here, and else where is that this is forgotten. The bigots show themselves for what they are. Scared people at the thought of being confronted by something they don't understand and slap words like "moral" or "normal" on to it. Like any other bigot who has no care for improving the quality of life for everyone.
Where they tolerate through their teeth, and the first chance they have they betray. This is the truest nature of the ones who are the first to claim others as "Sick" or "abnormal".
Our integrity is the only thing we have as what we can really claim as ours. Nothing more then our words, how we interact with others. Being one who tries not to just tolerate, but accept and understand human nature, as nature. Means I will not run from discussions when harmless behavior is being discussed. When the nature of crime is removed from the doings of a deed and it becomes the nature of the person who does the thing, That is what I care about.
But those Betrayers of the nature of others. Those who claim label, and hide from what they themselves feel. Are worse then any one who does any act to make them feel better.
Get them the help, send them to the doctors. Its not their place to determine who is sick or who isn't. Its not their place to judge others of a community they pay to be a part of. If they are here, their contributions should be worth the time they took to write.
The resident Infernalist.
wait... I seem to be missing something. is there a related post that gets more into detail?
"Understanding is all anyone can hope for. I am very open and accepting. "
That is what I have on my profile. It is all people can HOPE for. I am not a bigot nor am I warped. I did not join this site with the expectation that I would be accepted exactly as I am by every member. I am fine with so many things. We are talking about a woman breaking into funeral homes and having sex with dead people. Stealing a hearse and driving off to have sex with the body. It is traumatic for these people's families to know, watch, or learn that on top of the fact that someone they loved is now dead, they have just been raped by a lunatic. If you want me to sit here and accept people who rape, or violate in anyway the rights of others (dead or alive) then you are just as warped as this psycho who sounds like she is bragging about the unspeakable things she has done. I will not be scolded for the intolerance of a CRIME like that. If the act of a pedophile was brought up would I be expected to understand? These people being dead should not suddenly make the act of rape anymore acceptable. A non conservative lifestyle does not sound like a perverse criminal lifestyle. I do not need to accept that.
Talesh.
I know both sides of the coin on this one.
She did commit a crime. For that she should be punished. I do not abide rapists. But the act of will comes into rape. The thing is dead, yes poor family, but the body is empty, just a shell of what it was.
The act of deriving pleasure from something that would other wise be the source of burdens and pain, If kept private have no problem.
However vanity, and arrogance like she showed weeping at the funeral, and pulling stunts that do those things. Is a violation of the privacy and intamcy she and the corpse shared. She disrepected that time with the corpse and for that she should also be punished, as any one who talks about the bedroom stuffs with total strangers, and anyone who rapes a living, unwilling soul deserves a bullet between the eyes plain and simple. For the violation of the will that they committed. However a corpse can't hardly boast to have a will when it is empty now can it??
I say again "These people being dead should not suddenly make the act of rape anymore acceptable."
wow thats kind of sick yea having sex with a dead body *shivers* yuck
I have to say that I do not agree with having sex with the corps of the recently dead. I just don’t see the appeal of it.
The practice of necrophilia has a long history. Necrophilia was practiced in some ancient cultures as a spiritual means of communicating with the dead, while others employed it as an attempt to revive the recently departed. The evidence of necrophilia practices can be found in the artifacts of the Moche civilization of South America, where pottery depicting skeletal figures engaged in coitus with living humans are among the ruins. Even in ancient Egypt, there is record of the treatment of the bodies of young women that were set out to rot for a few days before being delivered to embalmers. This practice was born from the need to discourage the men performing the funerary customs from having sexual interest in their charges. Herodotus writes in The Histories that, to discourage intercourse with a corpse, Ancient Egyptians left deceased beautiful women to decay for "three or four days" before giving them to the embalmers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia#Necrophilia_in_history
I would make a request that you use another source in your posts then a Wiki site. They are uninformative for any reliable information.
Not to be a wet blanket but please use another source.
Same sh*t differnt source:
- A History Of Necrophilia -
Before we explore a history of necrophilia we need to establish an understanding in the genetic traits of humans as it relates to reproduction and evolution. Focus for a moment on humans being placed on this planet for reproduction and less on our cultural development. Every instinct, impulse, desire, feeling and compulsion we have is aimed at perpetuating your individual genetic traits through procreation with another. That's called survival of the fittest; men and women are bound by the natural instinct to reproduce.. not collectively as a species but individually. ALL our biological functions, from eating to masturbating, has a role toward ensuring our individual dominance and struggle to pass our genetic seed. We laugh about the inherent behavioral differences between men and women and we joke about placing the blame for certain actions or inactions as being genetic, suggesting it was beyond our control to change. In reality there's some truth to that. Men are predisposed to exhibit sexual desire and fantasy as an action toward the female since it's the male's orgasm that starts the reproduction process. Women by nature tend to be sexually submissive in the act by comparison. Sexual fetishes are an outgrowth of sexual fantasies, for both sexes, but for the most part the dominance/submissive sexual roles are maintained in those feelings.
Back when our species was developing on the plains of Africa mortality was far greater than it is now; the life expectancy somewhere in the 20's-30's. This is one reason why nature makes females sexually mature at the age of 10-11 (was probably even younger in those days). There was a natural interest in death because death was so much a part of life. And sadness over the death of a mate was no doubt quite common as it was a survival necessity in child raising. One theory is that copulation with a dead female was an attempt to 'revive' them... the act of sex being in itself an emotional release providing a bond and the male seed a way of creating life. Quite obviously if males spent all their time copulating with dead females we'd not be here today. So we can say that certain necrophilic events did occur and probably evolved into religious rites over the millennia. You have to remember that our early ancestors were more in tune with their environments and with their own roles in life than we are today. Life was survival.. scrounging for food, fighting the environment.. and always geared toward procreation; producing and raising offspring. By comparison we concern ourselves just as much with recreation and material conveniences.. and controlling our natural sexual urges through social guilt and intimidation. But the old natural instincts are still with us.
Necrophilia, or hints of necrophilia, can be seen throughout civilization. The pottery of the Moche civilization in Peru, active in the first seven centuries of our era, reflect a common scene of skeletal figures known as carcanchas engaging in sexual acts with humans or among themselves, sometimes in orgies. The modern day Asmats of Irian Jaya involve placing a human skull against the genitals for up to three days, the purpose being to absorb the sexual power of the skull's owner.
The ancient Greek historian, Herodotus, mentions that in Egypt, neither the wives of high-ranking men nor the bodies of beautiful women are delivered straight to the embalmers upnon their death, but allowed to putrefy for three or four days first. This was done so that the embalmers would loose any sexual interest in these women. Apparently one embalmer had been caught mounted upon a fresh female corpse, and was exposed by a fellow worker, thus setting the three-day waiting period.
To this day the various professions dealing with the preparation and handling of corpses have the highest incidence of necrophilic activity. An incredible incident related by a doctor of the Sorbonne in 1802 illustrates this.
A young monk stopped at an inn which was mourning the loss of the innkeeper's daughter. They asked the young monk to do a wake over her, and he agreed. That night the monk had sex with the girl and departed the following morning. Later that day, while they were putting the coffin in the ground, someone heard movement; the casket was opened and the young girl is put back to bed and nursed to health. A short time later the first signs of pregnancy appeared and at the end of nine months she gave birth to a baby, all the while claiming her virginity. Several years later the monk renounced his vows for various reasons and soon his affairs brought him back to the inn. Finding the "deceased" alive and a mother, he confessed his actions and married the girl.
Magic and cult worship have long been linked to death and can contain elements of necrophilia. The alchemist, Thomas Vaughan, hints very delicately at having sex with his wife on the day of her death. Some disciplines of Indian Tantra reportedly mingled sex and death in their rituals. Shivaite sects, which were influenced by Shakta worship, such as the Kapalikas, or skull men, were known to live among the ashes of the dead, wear jewelery made of human bones and drink from skull cups. Some sects had rituals involving the practitioner sitting in a graveyard or cremation ground with a skull pressed against his genitals. Other rituals had the man laying prostrate or squatting on a cadaver until the flesh decays, whereupon he eats the flesh. In the mythical black rituals of Tantra the adept sits astride the male corpse and "animates" the body through magical force. The body twitches and turns, its tongue protrudes, the penis becomes erect and eventually ejaculates. The semenal fluid was then collected.
Aside from the occult operations of the various magi and adepts, sex with the dead has even been touted for healing. Medieval Europeans believed that hermaphrodites could be cured by sexual interecourse with a recently deceased virgin.
Whatever the purported claims and cure of necrophilia, the experience of such intimate contact with the dead can undoubtedly be intense. The Frenchman, Henri Blot, entered the Saint-Ouen cemetary one night seeking a corpse of a recently deceased ballerina. Following intercourse with her remains he fell into a trance-like state and had to be roused by cemetary guards the following day.
Sergeant Bertrand, a handsome ladies' man active in the mid-19th century, is one of history's most memorable necrophiles. his passion for young female corpses was so intense that he once swam across a lake in the dead of winter to get to a cemetary. Another time he was shot by a booby trap yet still had the stamina to dig up and have sex with a female corpse.
So, remember that necrophilia is as old as man (or woman) himself. Sometimes the practice was kept silent, other times it was part of cultural worship.
Technically, but most wouldn't want to go there.
Awesome thread btw. I look forward to its development. Thanks for the extra info.
I'll give it to you. You make a good point. But it all has to do with opinion. The thread asked for opinions and to some [myself included], it just seems generally wrong.
It was really to highlight the hypocrisy so prevalent among the 'enlightened'
I will be blunt. I had no idea really that my original post would get so much critisism, but the more the merrier.
(Apologies if my spelling has gone to hell, long day...)
And yes, along with cannibalism, sex with a corpse was in some instances ceremonial to certian groups of people.
They would never abide to burying the dead. The found THAT in itself immoral and taboo.
So please, do give me more to argue on. Gets the brain muscles flowing *wink*
Nice to see that my thread has been extended a little as well, thank you dahling.
I personally don't care who or what a person has a relation with. Lets face it, some guys will attack a hole in the fence! What is disgusting is indeed a matter of personal and social taste. But, this thread started right from the go with flaming statements and I still see them in other posts. This is a no go guys. No excuses.
~ billy