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Morrigon
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23:32:59 Mar 06 2005
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I'm not sure if this has been explained before but it's bothered me for years, watching all of the vampire movies and such. The tiny puncture wounds that the vampires leave behind yet the human is completely drained of blood. I always imagined the victims neck to be more of a gaping wound. In order to kill the person as fast as they do. I never quite understood that maybe someone can explain or are those movies with the feedings like that just trying to make the life of a vampire a glamorous thing. I know about the vampire bats just making puncture wounds and lapping up the blood but of course a single bat doesn't drain an animal just doing that. I don't know it's always bothered me and I figured it would be nice to get some other people's opinions.




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That is an excellent question. I ahve also always wondered about this technicality while watching films or reading books, but unfortunately I also wonder, and not know.

Anybody?



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00:40:30 Mar 07 2005
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i thought a hole in such a main vein would surely slow down a humans reactions. as the major blood supply to the brain is inturrupted. meaning they couldn't fight back. and what with it being a main vein you could easily suck a lot through it.

don't take this post as fact... that's what my heads saying to me



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It's a time thing. The movies don't really show you that you may be there for oh...say ....an hour or so. They think, get it, get out, get on with the movie pretty much.

If you put into the consideration of the pints of blood in the human body, then figure squeezing it through those tiny points...well, you do the math.

There are feedings when they do rip out the throat, making it look like an animal went frenzied. Depends on how ravenous the feeder is.

Looks like maybe hollywood doesn't take into consideration of patiance.

Just my two cents.



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00:45:17 Mar 07 2005
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It all depends on the vampire. If they are ravonous creatures they might just end up taring open the neck completly, where a seductive vampire would go with the subtle and slow artery within the neck or the arteries within the inner thigh.



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00:51:17 Mar 07 2005
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I know it's not exactly... errr... "accurate" but in "Vampire: The Masquarade - Bloodlines" if you drain a human fully and kill them you lose humanity and you get closer to a phase where you lose control of yourself in order to feed.

my point being maybe some vampires wouldn't want to fully drain humans, just feed because they NEED to.

but if that same vampire only has two of his former best friends to feed off and refuses too... he may end up losing it because he needs the blood and ripping his friends to shreds instead.

i'd rather control the feed than lose myself and mindlessly kill



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Morrigon
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It seems like it is just another case of Hollywood turning things into what aren't practical. Even if you puncture the artery in the neck it will take forever. If you don't completely drain the victim, then you would most likey have to go through multiple people to get the amount of blood you need to survive. I don't know, I still imagine personally a vampire taking a rather large chunk out of someone's neck, doesn't have to have half of their neck missing, still it would drain far faster. Of course another thing the vampire would have to worry about is the victim dying early of shock. It's interesting that many people who get wounded these days are actually killed by shock, not the wound itself, or the loss of blood. Do vampires have a sort of hypnotism to them? Say in The Interview with A Vampire, when they were feeding on that girl at the pub she seemed to be enjoying it. Hmm, I don't know there are a few things I think should be figured out it just doesn't seem logical to feed on large amounts of blood out of tiny little holes.



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02:59:35 Mar 07 2005
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so have i



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Elvira
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I have thought about this question also. I believe that since a vampire bites such a main artery that it wouldn't take them long to drain the blood out of the body.



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04:10:32 Mar 07 2005
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Don't forget that as long a the victim is alive their heart continues to pump blood throughout the body (move if the victim is scared or nervous) so the vampire would not be required to "suck" all of the blood out of the victim, much of it would literally be pump ed into the mouth. It would still take a good amount of time to drain the victim though.



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04:29:50 Mar 07 2005
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maybe they dont die but pass out.... then die....



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15:06:17 Mar 07 2005
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This beats me but will puzzle me for days.



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16:03:44 Mar 07 2005
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Mind you, with such a major artery, there wouldn't be much need to "suck" blood. It would be more like putting a kink in a hose, then puncturing it.
However, I don't know how much blood the arteries pump, so I can't even make a guesstimate on how long it would to take to almost completely drain a human being.



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18:13:47 Mar 07 2005
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I always thought that, like vampire bats, their saliva has a chemical in it that keeps the blood from clotting...allowing for faster and easier drainage.



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18:16:53 Mar 07 2005
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well ive seen a movie before where it was kind of like a big wound guess it depends on the director



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20:03:15 Mar 07 2005
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I think we're missing a big factor here. Hw says that they drain them of all their blood? Severe shock, lactic acidosis, and death occur if blood loss exceeds 40% to 50% of plasma volume. Some of the apparent heart problems resulting from anemia are the result of hypoxia (decreased oxygen). This causes all blood vessels to dilate, speeding up the flow even more. As venus return to the heart increases, the heart pumps harder and faster to prevent cardiopulmonary congestion -- all of which can cause congestive heart failure.

So they would only need to drink half of the blood in the human (the avg human has about 10 pints in their body, drinknig 3/4 would kill them due to the blood that was drunk and the blood that would pour from the wound in a main artery)... Simple as...



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20:47:34 Mar 07 2005
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Dham you bitch, you stole the words from my mouth. ::smiles:: How large would you expect puncture wounds to be if all you need to do is get into a little artery? The heart does the work for you, you basically puncture and help along the flow.



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21:01:53 Mar 07 2005
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Mmmh, the puncture wounds seem rather small but maybe it's enough if you combine the pumping of the heart with some demonic sucking abilities. O.K. not the best description but another aspect may be that, since vampires are, lets just say, "magical" creatures. The wounds may be larger while sucking and close themsleves more afterwards. A bit far fetched but it would be an explanation.

On the other hand the wounds might be supposed to be small, since the "kiss" of a vampire is often considered to be quite thrilling or even addictive to some mortals.



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Morrigon
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02:09:32 Mar 08 2005
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hmm, this is all interesting and I think correct. I'm not sure I just wanted other views. Thanks for the posts guys. and girls... and other things...



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