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this question mainly pertains to spirits and it will probably be confusing and im sorry in advanced if you get confused..........


All throughout the world a form of Mysticism is practiced.My question is lets say someone conjour a spirit do you have to use the same form of practices to dispell it ? like if i where practicesing Voodoo African Witchcraft, why is that i would need a voodoo practitioner

do spirits relate to a certain form of magic

Opening a door to the spirit's is easier than closing the door. There is a time and a purpose for every spirit and the person summoning the spirit should understand who they seek and for what purpose.

Personally, I think it would make sense if they did only respond to a certain magic practise.

Like opening a door, only one key will work and only one key can lock it again.

My feeling is that "magical rituals" simply serve to focus the will. Therefore the same rituals wouldn't be necessary for dispelling, although they would make it easier to match the "vibrations" of whatever you were trying to put down.

You do not need the same system to dispel various entities within western traditions of Magick. However, you can not banish the Loa. : ) In Haitian Vodoun, you are not dealing with beings of a distant nature. You would need to be a practitioner or know someone who can work with them to understand the potential grounds for their dismissal.. ; )

A dart fired from a blowgun does not care how it is deflected

My feeling are this spirits take the form of wat we want them be by the ritual we putt out if that makes any sense

If you invoke an spirit for any reasons, and that spirit connect with you, to disperse that spirit back to his/her world, you must use the same ceremony that was used to summoned it. So, many novice use some ceremony to open a door, but, they don't have the idea or the resources as how to close it.

Well that sond like it would make perfect sense but not in all cases that the same ritual would work to repress a spirit... like i said i believe it based on the idenity we give a spirit and power that we allow it to have .....
In some cases such as excersims either of a person or home when people dabble happen to come across a spirit , the same force that allowed the spirit to come in is not always the sme way to get rid of itif so priest would non existent . I think its noviences to say there is only one way to ose a door

I think it would also depend upon the strength of the magic system being used...

If the dispelling were much stronger than the spell cast, I doubt it would matter much what the actual structure system was...


I have used my path do dispel several different curses and spells, the key is that the person doing the dispelling have a at least a BASIC knowledge of what they are trying to fight...

I think it comes down to a simple matter of who's got the strongest will to win in a fight . Location might be a factor , being that someone native to a particular part of the world might have background information of local types of spirits/demons .

Do you have a demon problem or is this just something you've been thinking about ?

Question in my mind is ..I am wondering who here has actually summoned a demon? And what did you you to send it back?

Demons/Angels, spirits of any kind reside in an alternate habitation that overlaps our own. Anyone can call upon the assistance of a spirit, but many do not have regard to the type of spirit they have brought forth. If a particular ritual was performed to bring forth an entity, does it matter if the banishing ritual must be within the same religious/magickal practice? I think not, however, what is done to bring about such entities must also be considered in any banishing ritual as well as the intent or "why" the entity was brought forth.

Knowing those two things alone will give better direction as to what you're dealing with. As Cabrion pointed out earlier though, a spirit will care not how it is deflected, but when you are dealing with entities directed by a powerful priest/priestess/witch/sorcerer, etc., it is not the spirit you are dealing with as much as you are the person who is directing it. In such cases, your fight is not with the entity but with the one who sent it.

In addition to my thoughts, regarding the need for an equally qualified priest/priestess to dispel a spirit conjured by another within the same practice of rites and rituals. It is not about the necessity of the negation of a spirit conjured in Voodoo be dispelled by a someone who also practices Voodoo. The practice or ritual itself is not the differentiation, it is the fact that within a specific practice, due to the nature of the conjuring and by whom, it may be in your best interest to consult with someone of equal caliber in the same field of expertise who knows the ins and outs of the rituals involved.

For example: You wouldn't call on a Master Electrician to fix your toilet now, would you? Although the electrician could probably help you out and give you a fixer-upper, the job would only last a little while because the true nature of the problem is not easily identifiable to the electrician as his field of expertise is in electricity, not plumbing.

Same difference. If you are having trouble with a spirit conjured by a powerful priest, it would behoove you to find another of equal knowledge and experience within the same field to help you negate it.

i think that magical systems are just different ways to manipulate energy. energy is energy.
if i write down how to create a battery in english, would the same instructions work if they were translated into swahili?
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Certainly not. Just because I call up a spirit using voudoun does not mean that only voudoun can put it down again. It depends primarily on the knowledge, skill, and personal power of the practitioner versus the power, tenacity, and type of spirit in question.
That said, raising spirits is a touchy and potentially dangerous business and should not be undertaken unless a truly dire need exists (personal opinion...not here to cast stones or start drama). If you must, the more information you can get about the spirit you seek, the easier it will be to send them away.

Messing with and summoning things can be a dangerous and messy affair.

You may THINK you're conjuring up a certain entity, but they love to play their tricks etc.

Sometimes things you didn't intend on gifting a portal, make it so.

Im personally staying away from it at the moment.

With my hands I was just experimenting with things in the dark as I could see energy swirling around on my ceiling and as I put my hands out the faint energy came down towards them.

As I parted my arms a black hole was opening, forcing the energy apart.
I quickly stopped what I was doing and it sealed itself up.


Your intuition will guide you when doing any form of magic/mysticism.

Listen to it.

The first step to gaining power is a disciplined heart and mind.

Defence before offence sort of thing.


cheers

The style of form of majic, or incantation is the least concern. The over riding factor will always be the will and focus of the practitioner. However without knowing exactly what you are doing it is easy to stray from your intended purpose and lead down a road you were not ready for.