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Snowmen aren't just playthings children build in wintertime. Some say they're living beings, and an international group of scientists are about to go hunting for one, the Siberian Snowman.

Around the world, there have been reports of large, hairy, human-like creatures. Known variously as Bigfoot, Sasquatch, the Abominable Snowman and the Siberian Snowman, none of the elusive animals have ever been captured to confirm their existence.

But cryptozoologists say eyewitness accounts, photographs, films, videos, footprints, hair and even fecal material all suggest the possibility of an unknown species that doesn't seem to want to be discovered.

Scientists from the U.S., Russia and other countries will come together this week for a conference that will include a trek to the Siberian region of Kemerovo to hunt for the alleged snowman.



What are your thoughts, if any, on this abominable snowman that has found it's way into the annals of history?

Is it a human hybrid? A freak of nature? An Alien entity trapped here upon Earth for centuries? And if it is real then the existence of true Lycans and Vampires can not be disputed, whether they are shape shifters or simply ancients from time immemorial that have survived just as these creatures have...through cunning and sheer will for survival.

So....what do you believe these beings to be?

I for one am a believer.

I have always believed in the existance of other beings, ijn my mind it is arrogant to assume that your species is the only one.As a living vampyre why would I dispute the existence of other creatures? Yes of course without hard evidence I cannot say that I am 100 percent certain of there existence but than again there is no evidence prooving they do not exist

Personally I settle on the belief that anything is probable and possible. The universe is chock full of things we have no concept of and quite possibly may never.

Doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

I would have to see a bit more evidence of such a being. I've read thew accounts, seen the tv programmes, and such. However in my opinion, there needs to be more concrete evidence, besides blurry videos, and speculation.

If any cryptozoologist had "fecal" samples they would have beat down doors to get it tested, since that has not happened, one can only conclude that they are not personally credible.

There is a conglomeration of different things subjected to DNA analysis and so forth when it comes to the sasquatch...one such test was done on the remains of blood and hair left behind at a lone woodland camp house in the wilds of Canada, on a trap left by the owners to deter a wild bear or other animal from entering the dwelling and tearing the place up as had happened previously.

The DNA analysis was interesting to say the least...bigfoot has been around in folklore a long time...check this article on the camp house event.

http://alamas.ru/eng/publicat/DNA_of_Bigfoot_e.htm

Sorry for my 3 day absence, I was in South Dakota training some Special Operations personnel on CQB/H2H


I fully agree on "Proof positive" with DNA testing and a bit more thorough research on what they already have such as hair fibers which they can not identify.

But if, and I fully believe that Big Foot, Yeti, The Abominable Snowman etc ect...other names associated with these beings actually exist, so if they are here as a tribal group hiding in the deep woods, of frozen areas of Russia, Nepal or any other tundra for that matter...I still wonder why some would find warm climates, as hairy as they are, more to their liking than the colder climates that others are found in...so being that they are here, where was their origin. I have given the star system as a possibility but I am also questioning its relevance to the Vampiric and Lycan clans. Wouldn't it be feasible to conclude that the possibility of such an origin in a star system known by so many tribes and societies would contain in itself an assortment of civilizations either defunct or functioning that had at one time found sanctuary of sorts here on earth.

And in the case of the Vampiric and Lycan clans, had interbred within small groups of humans centuries ago thereby giving rise to the modern day Vampire...and do not forget what the Japanese and Chinese have called it:

In Chinese and Japanese astronomy, Sirius is known as the “star of the celestial wolf”.

The celestial WOLF

The Alaskan Inuit of the Bering Strait called it “Moon Dog” Remember the only dogs known to the Inuit were of WOLF origin...ex: sled dogs


So a WOLF (Lycan) theory is feasible.





Please..........your thoughts

I know many Russians who tore the Siberian/Kazak wastelands with the latest weapons, laser and heat sights.

I know of a team of x-military (airbourne ramgers etc) who scoured the border of the Cascades/ Canada.

They report only bears and crazy Vodka wild men, I would love to believe this but unfortunately it is just the Loch -ness monster of the snow.

Ooops they found it....well maybe its time to eat my hat.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047528/Proof-Yeti-footprints-hair-samples-Abominable-Snowman-Russian-cave.html

That's interesting! I often wonder if these creatures or being have more deductive reasoning than we give them credit for. For example, after viewing how the Europeans slaughtered the Native Americans maybe the American version of Big Foot or Snowman decided not to be seen by humans?

I think a lot of Vodka would make anyone a bit mad. *LOL* However, all the things I've seen are these blurry non-descript images. i wish they had hidden cameras in areas where these things have been seen for better evidence

Yea That's true Mel! All the images are these blurry, fuzzy images and at times, a guy in a costume. Maybe they need to set up cameras at areas people say they seen Bigfoot. 24- hour cameras would be nice.

Yes agreed a clear series of photos would be nice.

But where do you think they reside? If they are descendants of an ancient race from another world and somehow either got stuck here thousands of years ago or stayed willingly, where do they reside.

Given, they have had centuries to develop a place of seclusion away from humans, a place well hidden and out of the way.

Do you think they have a social structure in these places?

If humans were isolated on a far distant world that was habitable maybe something like earth maybe not like earth at all but habitable all the same.

They would have to find ways of survival, ways that were ancient. Going back to the basics of making fire and hunting and even camouflaging themselves to blend into their surroundings. Their way of living would be primitive having come out of an advanced industrial society.

What if these beings we call Big Foot, Yeti, etc. etc., what if they were as we are and might be...travelers on a far distant world with no way of getting back home and given the time here on this world, they evolved or regressed because of the difference in environment for prolonged eons of time.

Good questions Davy! Maybe there is some sort of dimensional rift kind of like the Burmeda Triangle?

Here we go again. Why are Humans so curious about something that would like to be keep as a legend? If they exist, do you believe that they want to be found? Nope. Leave those creatures alone. I don't see no creatures looking for the Humans, and believe me, they know that we exist and they know how much damage we can cause, to their ecological system and to them in general.

Markus666,

I don't condone the investigations because I know what humans are capable of even given "good intentions."

What I'm trying to address is the origin of not only The Yeti and it's various other names, but the origin as well of other beings present here such as Lycans and Vampiric elders and offspring. Ancient Sumerian Literature and even The Dead Sea Scrolls are either blatantly obvious or eluded to through actions and origins.

To better understand our human selves....not our humanity...but our human selves, we must search out that which is hidden in the shadows and hopefully begin to understand their plight and their progression within not only society but human history as well.

The Yeti and other names associated with these beings, are elusive for a reason, what that reason is is any ones guess. Quite possibly the human nature of warfare and killing without reason. Yes I'm quite sure that they are aware of our natures and are also aware that we are all not alike, but why take a chance. It seems that children are the easiest for them to relate to and interact with on a short term, obviously because a child poses no immediate threat.

If observed by them, I believe there are those humans who have had contact with these beings and still do but the curtain of silence, respect and the acknowledgment that making others aware will endanger the species is kept solely between those humans and those beings. What ever knowledge if any is exchanged is their business.

Scientists however would prefer us to believe that their intentions are nothing more than noble. We, who have seen the noble intentions of science, know better.

Maybe one day we will be privy to their story.

Here's an interesting story:


A group of Russians claim a living "snowman" roams the cold Shoria Mountain area of southern Siberia. Ok we've done that here in this thread already but how about this: A woman in Newaygo County, Mich., told Discovery News that she has been interacting with and actually feeding a large family of close to 10 Bigfoot-like creatures who live in the woods near her home for the past two years.


"They get fish every day, a bucket of fruit, a bucket of dry dog food," said Robin Lynn Pfeifer, a 47-year-old resident of Newaygo County, north of Grand Rapids. "Their favorite thing is blueberry bagels. If I'm not baking them, I go to different stores to buy them."


She said she has collected casts of many large footprints, but says the creatures are too shy and too clever for her to get a photograph. She describes the Bigfoots as ranging from six to nine feet tall and looking like humans, except for hairy coats and broad noses.

She says the Bigfoot clan began visiting her home shortly after she and her husband and three children moved into a 10-acre rural property back in November 2009. The creatures also engage in some unusual behaviors, she said. Sometimes they make knocking sounds underneath the family home's crawl space, twist and braid a rope used to tie the family's pony, or construct elaborate stick structures in the woods.

"I want people to realize that they do exist," Pfeifer said. "They are not aggressive, they are more human-like than an ape and I'm very protective of them."



So we have her side of it: Now for the other side:



Loren Coleman directs the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine and has been studying and writing about strange sightings of creatures for several decades. He says he's skeptical of anyone who comes forward with tales of lengthy Bigfoot encounters without providing serious evidence.

"All the Bigfoot contactees -- for some reason they never take photographs," Coleman said. "There's a lot of interest in finding these things, but we have to look of the credibility of the people feeding us the stories. I'm always careful of two kinds of people, the debunkers who have no interest and the true believers who will not bring any critical thinking."

Coleman said he hasn't met with Pfeifer, but is doubtful, comparing her story to people who meet with aliens from UFOs.

"They really believe they are having these experiences," Coleman said. "I don't know if its hallucinations or a psychological state.



Jeff Meldrum, professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University, was in Russia and has been sifting through the various claims about both the Russian Yeti in southern Siberia and Pfeifer's story of a Michigan Bigfoot.

"There's no substance to any of her claims," said Meldrum, who is an expert in the evolution of early hominid gait. "If there were 10 to 12 around her home, she should be opening up a museum with all the artifacts."




I'd Like to think that she actually has encounters with them and that some where along the line maybe a better understanding may be reached..But I don't agree with her bringing it to light and attracting un-necessary attention, maybe she either doesn't understand or wants the attention.

I think that these creatures do exist. I think that they are intelligent and that is why they are never found. It is either that or they have the ability to transcend into this world and only appear for a short amount of time, just happening to be in the presence of a human. If it is a physical being I believe that it will continue to be undiscovered, as it has probably witnessed humans potential for killing in some way.

I believe the potential for this, a semi-intelligent creature who just wants to be left alone, is very real. I wouldn't be surprised if it did exist, but time and exploration will tell if it really does exist.

I suppose it could exist. There are so many undiscovered species deep down in our oceans that it doesn't rule out big foot on land.