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"I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."

Josef Stalin - Soviet dictator (1926)


Stalin's aim and that of the Soviet Politburo, was to control the world and the spread of communism. So in 1926 they requested that the Academy of Science build a "living war machine".

Stalin ordered a scientist to create a Super-soldier by crossbreeding humans with apes.
Ilya Ivanov, one of Russia's top animal breeding scientists was chosen by Stalin to make the perfect soldier.

Ivanov went to West Africa in 1926 to perform experiments by impregnating chimpanzees. A center for the experiments was also established in Russian Georgia for raising the apes.

The experiments were a total failure and Ivanov returned to the Soviet Union. Sperm gathered from the apes was used to impregnate human volunteers but this too ended in failure.

Ivanov was a devoted believer in Darwinism and sincerely believed Mankind was related to the great apes: orangutan, gorilla, and chimpanzee. But he didn't consider the possibility that we were not.

Great apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes. That is the female has 24 pairs of chromosomes in her egg and the male has 24 pairs of chromosomes in his sperm.

Humans have only 23 pairs of chromosomes and what is truly remarkable about this fact is that we apparently once had 24 pairs of chromosomes just like the great apes!

What science has discovered is that our second and third chromosomes have been fused together. This fusing could only be accomplished in a laboratory by manipulating the egg. No disease or natural genetic condition has ever caused a species to alter its chromosomal structure!

So Ivanov's experiments were doomed to fail from the get go. Without identical numbers of chromosomes two species cannot procreate.

So another way had to be found in order to bring the Super Soldier into fruition.


World War II:

Allegedly…between 1936 and 1941 the Soviet Union created 300 young Soviet soldiers and completely modified their bodies. One of the first experiments, was implanting the soldiers brains with gold electrodes to shut down the pain center.

Their limb bones were replaced with titanium implants that protected the soft tissues against landmines or shells, as well as from gunshot injuries. In this case, any injury was not threatening and would not cause crushing bones and amputations.

During an “investigation” by physician Sergei Konovalenko, a film intended “for official use” was found in Russian archives. The footage looked horrible: a soldier’s leg is cut at the knee and the bone is pulled out, then something metallic is tucked in its place. The commentator says that the operation is performed without anesthesia, as the pain center was removed from the human brain. The soldier exposed to these brutal manipulations is smiling. In the second part the soldier’s arm is cut off at the elbow — a fountain of blood is splashing. And again, the “volunteer” has a humble smile on his face.

The units were sent out to fight on the first day of WWII and the soldiers were completely obliterated by German Artillery.

So I guess we now know where the Wolverine concept came from.

But all in all it's been tried in different ways and continues to be a point of more than just interest to specific parties.

But if politicians and world leaders are shooting for a One World Government, and places like Syria, Libya, Egypt...etc etc.. are holding up progress then they need to be reorganized and set up with a friendlier government that will comply with those in favor of a New World Order...that's why all this is happening. Get the leaders of countries that will not submit to a One World Government and do away with them because they are a threat.

Keep the people living in fear. Fear of being incarcerated in jail, losing their property, their jobs, their constitutional rights...keep them believing that things will get better, keep them distracted with the latest in technology, senseless movies, asinine relationships, stupefied reality shows that dumb down the positive centers of though in the brain....

Because these people are the cattle the ones that will not raise their voices and speak out against a government headed toward totalitarianism.

If a One World Order is the Agenda and everything else is a distraction then the "Super Soldiers" can only be for one other purpose.

To obliterate those individuals in the world that will not submit, for they will be armed and waiting. Those individuals that do not subscribe to the foolishness of government and will not go quietly into the night.

the super soldiers might decide they are better suited to run the world than their creators.

I thought about that too! I remember in Terminator 2 the computer system Skynet gained consciousness and decided to run the show so since these soliders are "enhanced" might that become a possibility for them as well? Also, I cringe thinking of these soliders being unleashed on the general public in the form of martial law, civil war or public uprising. Seems like a .45 isn't enough to put these guys down. I'm scared for people who in the future want to defend their families.

Each of the super powers had their own variation onna theme... even toying with psychotelekinesis. Both.

i think they will decide its time for a change of manegemnt when they get turned loose.the NWO carries within itself the seeds of its own destruction as it wont be able to cope with a sudden change of environment.one comet or natural disaster will knock it down nicely.in warhammer theyy space marines and the empeor ofman himslef began as supersoldiers of the oldworld.in sm sterlings draka series the draka began asa spartan like empire till they invented super draka who just took over.

"What science has discovered is that our second and third chromosomes have been fused together. This fusing could only be accomplished in a laboratory by manipulating the egg. No disease or natural genetic condition has ever caused a species to alter its chromosomal structure!"

Thats really interesting. I wonder what science you subscribe to since Chromosomes can break apart and they can fuse together. A part of a chromosome can flip around or a part can move to an entirely different chromosome. We see examples of all of these things when we look at human and ape (and any other) chromosomes.

And its more common than you think. People are walking around all over the place with a Chromosome or two flipped or fused and it causes no problem.

So many people fail to understand the science behind Evolution and how it occurred, even the pro evolution sect. I have some awesome links that can give you the basics that alot of people happen to miss when learning about evolution, if you would like.

What science has discovered is that our SECOND and THIRD chromosomes have been fused together.

This goes into discussion which can not be discussed here in this type of thread.

But the point is SECOND & THIRD

My own personal view is D>O>N>T mess with thing that fate and the goddess have created. Trust me karma will get back to them and we'll all be screwed when these new things try to kill us all. But hey who knows maybe they'll relize their stupidity and we'll all live!!!!!!!!!! Yaaaaaaaay! any way. couriosity killed the cat and humans are very much courious.

Unforeseen consequences, genetically engineering crops was hailed as a "food revolution" that would drastically increase yields. Lord Sainsbury assured the politicians it was safe and fears were greatly exaggerated.

The Greens chopped down the crops and were arrested, they insisted it was unsafe.

The government didn't listen to the warnings that pesticides built into these new crops could spread through pollination etc to other species.

15 years passed by, and what happened?

We now have "Super Weeds" and there is no way of undoing it...

The Greens were right. Therefore any such super soldiers better be fitted with a termination device.

Yea you can thank companies like Monsanto for that. Genetically modified food that is in no way nutritious for the body. Also, damages you spiritually.

People dont realize it, but the government is slowing creeping its way to a complete repression of its people, regardless of what nation you are in. Some are more vocal about their efforts than others.

This concept is just another notch up.

whether it be genetics , robotics, or just plain enhancements, 'They' are doing it... after all, 'They' see 'Them' as doing it first.

Poeticheart, I think you are wrong, but I must clerify my position.
For years, they have experimented on folks in foolish ways without being checked.
Now, due to the internet and the revelation that dark energy does exist they pause.
A great example is the revelation the governments experimented on their own soldiers with radiation and LSD.
More recently, they apologised for deliberately infecting South Americans with STD's syphilus etc for experimentation.

Any fool can see that sort of behaviour is not sustanable,. In the past the end justified the means, no more. The end must be absolutely, quantifiably, justified and subject to later scrutiny. It's a step forward.

I don't have a problem with that.

The idea of super soldiers have been around along time, experiments during WW II just enhanced it. Any world or power would love the idea of a solider that was indestructible.

I respect your opinion (whomever it was that stated they disagreed with me; cant remember your name know that I am typing this :P), but obviously, I disagree with your particular stance, but debate is healthy. So no harsh feelings.

If you want I will tell you, privately, about a bill that the U.S government is very well looking at putting into practice. I cant discuss it here because the government filters would probably block this from showing up, as Google has been told that they can not spread this news to other countries.

Heck, for me... the idea of 'them' not playing with genetics to produce a soldier would be surprising.

what was it, "We have the technology!"

And, they do...

Yes, truly and one can only think of the information that they can't or better yet won't release to the public. Much like the Tuskeegee Airmen.

I'm not a man who is well studied in the presented topic, nor do i know much about a living creatures make up or the intricacies of cell structures genetics or robotics, what I do know is that NOTHING and i do mean NOTHING good has come out of trying to make mankind anything other than it already is. The HULC as was mentioned earlier i have seen in person, being a marine i've had albeit limited exposure to this machine, but exposure nonetheless. Believe me when I say we are still a long long way from making a supersoldier, the HULC thus far has only gone through a series of basic tests, to study a mans reflexes when inside it, the structural integrity of the machine, and what its maximum strength and tow capacity is. The scientists and engineers involved in its construction and development have not yet come up with a way to give it a portable source of energy that would allow it to run for any worthwhile period of time, thats why in every video you see it in its plugged into a collection of cables. Furthermore they have not done weaponst testing on it or with it and have not developed armor that would allow its human operator to pilot it and be protected at the same time. Don't get me wrong, its a very impressive machine, but i wouldn't worry about terminator stomping down your block any time soon, what i would worry about is humankind and its seemingly limitless capacity for violence, ignorance, and blind hatred. We're more likely to bring about a nuclear apocalypse than to develop an ai system that would render mankind obsolete.