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lavisbre
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Heres something to think about shamans around the world all see the same stuff.
The drugs take one to altered state or ability to view other dimension.
Now the freaky part.
Large Hadron Collider accelerator at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland has one third of the us scientist working on dimensional exploration.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070228123134.htm

When freezing artifact paint found on old warriors suit below Kelvin’s they actually lost a dimension in our world lol
http://www.physorg.com/news68389683.html

I wonder if this is why demons and ghost are not part of our real world as in walking down the street, for an example a succubus only comes in altered states of mind …….

What do you think are we going to open a door into a dimension?
And what if it’s a blood sucking one ?




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17:27:47 Aug 27 2007
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i believe in wormholes too. just never thought about how to unlock them. but i've done hallucinogens and i've seen some stuff. but i never thought it was opening me to other dimensions. . . though if that is the case, is there a possibility to get stuck in an alternate dimension?



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Yes this is the only way I can explain magic and the supernatural as dimensional leaks or gateways … who knows star gate tv program might be a way of readying us for a truth. Lol

Personally im a logical person and I find most of what I do becoming easier to except if I take on this concept of dimensions…..



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Well like shaman do and iv seen it as well, you start to see the other side and great snakes with very intelligent eyes are there … and man n animal mixed people like the Egyptian stuff. We don’t interact with them too well as we must be like ghost to them as they are to us.
This got me thinking about succubus and so forth even ghostly vampire stories … dimensional helped forward by our mind as a viewing tool and not much else.



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17:40:44 Aug 27 2007
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its plausible. i think you really hit on something here. finally my brain is working again!! Why didn't i think of it before! sometimes i wonder if those people in insane asylums who see things are really even insane. i bet not.



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lol You have taken scientific study and taken it to a bad place.

The dimensions these studies are referring to are not places, they are 'a construct whereby objects or individuals can be distinguished'. Meaning a way of looking at something. The scientists want to find another way to measure mass, or a different means thereof.

3D is referring to the 3 different measurements you can make on something that is 3D, you can measure it's width, length, and depth. 2D only has length and width. The paint simply stopped showing signs of being 3D when it was cooled and exposed to high magnetism.

Again, this 1D loss between 3D and 2D is not a place, so there is no door to it.

Also, I don't know what our first two posters are talking about wormholes for. Wormholes have nothing to do with dimensions. Wormholes are shortcuts across space and time, not to different 'dimensions'.


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an alter view can show alot of things, good, bad, real and not existing. So an alter view using drug is not one view I would trust



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That was such a Malkav answer, but anywho...

The quantum theory is a relative theory based on the mathematical probability for such dimensions to be opened and exporation possible...

Reminds me of a choose your own adventure book I once read as a child, I believe the name of it was Vampire World.
In the book, the Ocean was actually filled with blood instead of water...Yes indeed.



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the red sea ... dont we have one lol
yes i get all my stuff right out of Madness Network or the cobweb .....



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well I would have to agree with Sacred, I do believe in other dimensions that can be opened or merged with our world so that ghosts and demons can walk among us freely, but I think the dimensions the scientists are reffering to just might be a form of measuring something.



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15:14:07 Aug 31 2007
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only person to use gray matter, does that excludes you as well?
This is not a science forum and didn’t want in depth noodles…. If you did the same to religion it would be one short answer … belief only not proof.

A wise man once said
Be intelligent enough to know that little can be known, inquisitive enough to never stop learning, and perceptive enough to understand that all things and all events contain infinite possibilities. -Dean Koontz-

the paint experiment if you think past the box will be a platform for quantum computers, the one to be used in dimensional worlds. As noted in the link

Im interested into why the USA has put so much money and time into this project.
The particle accelerator above the machine has already made anti matter … which eats matter.

Still back on track yes…. worm holes are a way of jumping from one place to the next and I guess with dimensions you could phase in and out … I just know the stability we have in this dimension might not be in the next.
Maybe this is why vampires are seen as spectral beings unlike a ghost doomed to repeat it’s fate.
I know from astral work the same things are seen and communicated with by shaman.



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18:06:39 Aug 31 2007
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i believe in wormholes too. just never thought about how to unlock them. but i've done hallucinogens and i've seen some stuff. but i never thought it was opening me to other dimensions. . .



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02:16:29 Sep 01 2007
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the reason I say only sacred is using grey matter......is that you are trying to link entirely different and separately studied disciplines....yes the accellerator has made anti matter...this is nothing new....
and eventually the things learned by the paint dimensional point could assist in further concepts....
but they have little of nothing to do with worm holes, which are simply put two vastly separated distances which meet in a single spot.
your jumping all over the board here with an obvious lack of understanding of the science involved....and yet you even say your not talking about the science....then why mention particle accellerators and worm hole thoeries...
find one topic.....not the divergent few that you are failing at trying to force together



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I do not think you have to search into something as complicated to question about other dimension and when will we open them. If you look at certain tribes and certain artifacts within this world you can see that these dimensions have been opened. Do a goggle search on the following and get deep within the data on these topics: Plants of the God, Indians of Mexico, Peyote, Medico-religious Cults, Egyptian Writing/ Tombs. These are just a few topics that I have studied that all point to a dimension that has a door open to many things from spirits to UFO’s. I believe ghost and demons are a part of our real world. Just some choose to not see what is right in front of them. There have even been many studies on this fact that people sometimes do not see what is in front of them. Look that up too. The mind is sometimes more controlling over what a person sees then there eyes because of there belief system would be shattered to hell and for some people that would shatter there minds do it is a defense mechanism.



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So according to this forum- vampires have their own gods, hearts, and even dimensions?

Where's the focus on wonderful humanity in all of us? Are we all not worthy and special enough that we shouldn't have to keep finding reasons to stand out and be different?



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well for me logically a vampire in the book form we all read and love, must come from somewhere as it is in our dreams and history.
Logically it must be dimensional for me to understand it.



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i think the dimention thing is feasible. I think we are a long ways away from finding out how to travel and so forth.But personally, I think there are a lot of other realms we don't know about yet.As I believe in ghosties and spirits, and they exist somewhere..



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a better wording then might have been do you think vampires are extra dimensional beings?
and leave it at that without trying to bring in random commentaries about sciences that are unrelated, and then claiming that you aren't talking about the very sciences YOU mentioned



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i must admit Nocturnisorchid when I read in science sheet some time ago they tried to make the famous beam me up teleport from star track and realized photons phase in and out of reality on there own .. thus dimensions become a reality as only a photon signature of say .02 appears and singled out ones stretched into 0.3 disappeared.
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/8/10/246/njp6_10_246.html

this also showed photons only exist in our universe of 0.2 so those that are 0.3 0.4 and so forth phase into the next one.
Logic made me think a ghost might be close enough phase wise for us to see… and a vampire when I first knew about them were ghost and drank your blood.
How things change lol

Hi Daermon … yes your right better wording for sure … even if that seems impossible if someone has a poo pooing agenda lol
I think the science bits are important as they give ground to my comments.
If I said hey do you think vampires are originally linked with dimensions and have become part of our physic thoughts, even maybe made a break through.

I can only imagine the outcome .. like prove dimensions and I would of wasted more time going over said science as already noted.



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