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apparitionknight
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19:16:25 Jan 31 2005
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I like to pose unique questions or ideas from a philosophical standpoint
I, after much thought on this have posed the question to myself through my thoughts
What is my attraction to abnormal ideas and why am I attracted or urged to pursue idealisms that are not traditionally accepted as norms? Why is it within me to, if you will, step out side the box of normalcy and not be affected in uncertain terms of the rules that are preset in society as acceptances? See I actually believe I have out of the ordinary abilities and gifts that most people do not possess. What are your feelings on this as to yourself? Are these thoughts familiar to you? If so, how do you substantiate them in your mind without wondering if you are insane?




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'Normal' is a myth.

Therefore, if you stand by who you are, what you do, and most importantly trust in yourself, no one can tell you that you are wrong, or abnormal. One of the most common misconceptions (in my opinion) is that there is a 'normal standard'. But what everyone thinks of as normal, is abnormal to everyone else. I know I may be confusing and/or babbling, but I guess what I'm trying to say is don't doubt your abilities. You have just found a way to use your talents and no one can take that away from you. Hope it helps! :)

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I think " normal" is subjective. Normal to me is whatever you think normal is. For example: I see, hear, and feel ghosts or spirits,whatever is your preference. I have been called crazy, a liar, and told i am just trying to get attention. I do not care what others think about me. I am the way I am, and no one will change me. I fully believe you have the abilities you say you do. there are many more so-called "freaks,Crazies,etc that are just misunderstood, and no one wants to. Believe in yourself-that is all that matters!



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19:47:54 Jan 31 2005
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that is not what i mean. In society today there are things and ideas deamed as the norms, whether it be in thoughts or actions, for example vampires arent by most peoples assesments considered normal or even real by definition. I was basically possing the questions above with that in mind. See i am a witch, real to the core but in most peoples minds that is in my head or im insane for thinking that. I was asking about your uniqueness and how you justify it to yourself or are you here basically because of Curiosity



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Woah, I think about this a lot, normality is there on many different levels, different to each situation and the factors that are in effect there. You can't really measure normal, since everyone thinks differently. As for gifts, I sort of have one, it's a bit odd. I can sometimes "sense" items. for example, when i was at uni, i lost my hair-brush. i shut my eyes, imagined the hair-brush spinning slowly so i could see all of it. then i moved my palm around the room. I succesfully found that and other items. I've done it in the past. but don't do it a lot now. That is normal to me. but without another person experiencing that on their own through me, they can't see it as normal.



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oops, guess I misunderstood! Let me try again!! I am a vampire-energy and sometime blood drinker. I realize most people don't think I am really a vampire, and by their movie and book definition I am not. I do have vampire traits-can't stand the sun-will go out in it, but burn easily and have to wear sunglasses even on cloudy days Prefer night to day, that sort of thing. I have been called crazy, and a friend said I had an overactive imagination. I am no longer friends with him. People are entitled to their opinions. But I will tell them that's all it is-their opinion. I rarely have to justify myself, because my friends all believe in many "non-normal" things. I am also-I guess you could call it psychic-when it comes to ghosts. My friends believe me, and the ones who can't accept ghosts anyway. I just tell them this is me, and you will either get used to that fact, or not deal with me at all.



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What is the need for "justifying yourself to yourself"?

Accepting or changing what one finds unacceptable about one's self, yes.

Justifying? That is for something you can't accept and won't rid yourself of.

Perhaps you meant something other than I think you did.



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again not me persay, it has to do with thought prosesses. Im not talking in terms of justifing ones self to ones self im speaking in terms of societies views as pertained to the norms in this modern day life of what is acceptable behavior and what is not. For example if you were to believed that you were an actual werewolve and exhibited all the qualities and behaviors of such but yet you could not get anyone to accept that what do you tell yourself now i realize by that example im stretching here but im trying to get an oppinion on how you would justify your uniqueness in what you believe your special or abnormal abilities are. please refer to the first post for more info



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I agree with PandorazPixie (did I get your name right!?) and normal being a myth...

However, normal in a sence is a personal value in people. I do not worry about am I being normal, what I know and what I live is normal for me, although some people may see it as 'odd'.

I think sometimes we try to get away from what can be periceved as normal, and that gives us a natural taste for what we can find rather than what is right infront of us. Therefore I do not think that you have an aversion to the norm... I think like many of us, that you are evry adventurous.

I dont know what answer you wanted, but thats my bit x x



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Note for Echo: Yep, you got it right on ;)


Anyway, if I'm finally understanding your question knight, then you're talking about the conflict in our own minds for understanding and how we deal with trying to get others to accept us? Correct me and forgive me if I misunderstand, but this is how I'd deal with it.

In my current state, I must appear as a faceless drone in the well-known military. So my take, is that I allow everyone to see me as a good, innocent (if there is such a thing lol *evil grin*), law-abbiding 'soldier' if you will. But when I'm in my comfort zone, I allow myself to be seen for what I truly am and be uncaring of what others may think of me. People will always judge me, anyone, for surface value, and I've learned to adjust depending on the situation. Is this the kind of response/method of thinking you were looking for?



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This is just my opinion, so bare with me for a moment.

"unusual, strange, other than normalcy to others." It has a lot to do with your 'direct' environment too.

example; I hosted vampire ((family)) parties once a month or more back in my old hometown. There were some witches, born and raised, and also found that they had the trait or gift or however you perceive it - that's another thread altogether- but my meaning is that to us it was acceptable, therefore not out of the ordinary. Perhaps other vampires, again if you wish to use that term, would consider that unusual.
To bring this point in full circle, my upstairs neighbors thought that these get togethers of "wackos, fanatics, and eccentrics" was completely out from the norm.
So my point is, it depends on your environment as well. NOT EXCLUSIVELY, mind you. But a bit.

Again, this is just my opinion.
My compliments on the forethought of this thread.



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apparitionknight
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06:47:03 Feb 02 2005
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Perhaps environment is a factor but so is tv we all see the same things---well most of us do account for that too



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12:18:31 Feb 05 2005
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normal is a factor that coincides with the requirements that society dictates. If we cross this line then we are considered abnormal.



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06:14:46 Feb 06 2005
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thank you emerald for backing that portion of my thought



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being abnormal is normal

everyone does things out of the ordinary all the time so it is a normal thing. if you are usually doing things out of the ordinary of the masses then you are abnormal.
i have actually pondered the very questions you have asked here. i say you have these powers, you are who you are ( and i am sure it is a beautiful thing to be), and very importantly you are not crazy. so many people will say, stuff along the line of why don't you fit in, stop being weird and what not. i feel that if people stop being themselves and did those things we would not progress as a society or progress very slowly. how else would you hear me ( a christan lad, prodominatly christain anyway) say that witches are just fine, hell i have a friend that has at least at one point in her life tinkered with the stuff, and i love her the same anyway.
yeah, and i hear you on putting up a mask while you aren't in your comfort zone, and i do it, but that is who i am.

don't know if you wanted that sort of response what so ever, but you got it so i hope you enjoyed
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Ah, everyone has their own powers that are hiden and locked away. For society has its heart set out on there is no more magic. We are our own gods and goddess hold our own powers. To unleash such things you have to see beyond the minds eye, like having a third eye. Tho much faith in yourself and faith in general helps to bring it out. I have managed to pull my powers out but not to its fullest. I dont want all of them till I can controll them. I am currently teaching another person to do so. To pull their powers out and how to use them. Although I have told him a thing or two. Don't use them for gainin things itll only take away, dont use them to harm someone itll come back twice as bad. Watch what you do and who you do it on, can let people get to you. Because this world has pushed us into closing the portals from which our powers come it will take alot for you to open them back up. For people who have lived many lives, such as myself find it a bit easier and have a lil more control.



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miz
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11:35:07 Feb 06 2005
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Asking such questions isn't healthy.



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We are all unique in our own ways.
There are a lot of stereotypes nowadays, and tons of labels to cap it all.

The most important thing is to accept who you are and what you are.

Others may scorn you for that, that they do so 'cos they're all hollow inside.....they just wanna fit in or haven't found themselves yet.



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06:16:59 Feb 09 2005
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Miz why is it unheathy --currious as to your thoughts please elaborate



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I have been told my many that I have gifts they can see them but I don't believe them. I am a faceless drone.. Like other people when in "sociteies eyes" unless I am comfortable with showing my true side. I still have not figured out what my gifts are yet.. *gummbles*



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