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What are your thoughts on the "hypnotic allure" that vampires hold and how that may influence our perception of hypnosis.

And what are your ideals on some of the themes that vampires represent, like the competing forces of losing control and freedom from responsibility?

I don't know if it's the same hypnotic allure you mean, or if it has anything to do with being a vampire at all. But I know that once someone has fallen in love with me, and it has been the same for every person that has, I have some control over their mind and, through slightly different means for each one, I can put them into a trance that allows me to do anything I want. I've always wondered if it's coincedence or another "gift" I have.

Personally I think the hypnotic effect others have on people maybe a gift only a portion of vamps have. I don't have this effect on people, but I have been told that I have a calming and draining effect on those around me.

SeraConner, maybe it's both hon. Or maybe it's just all instinctual, or just simply a part of your true nature.

Darkbutterfly, some may regard this the same, but it's not. Most would classify this as being a psi vampyre, one that mostly drains or rather feeds off the energy of others, while depending upon the individuals nature, (ie: you), you may also do the feeding to certain people, ie: friends and family.

have you heard of anyone else who could do this without training themselves to?

.. this allies itself, to a thread I'm to post:

I think many of us can use that 'allure', as you desribe.
A Given [for example] twice, at the convention, I was informed that I'm memorable.

SeraConner, No I haven't. One needs to be trained a specific way in order to control and to command these.

Angelus, eloquently stated as you always do. ;)

Well I'm not trained at all, probly why I can't do it on just anyone. Good thing too. The temptations that must be avoided are too great when you have control of someone.

Ahhh... the "hypnotic allure" of the vampire.

It is sometimes quite surprising how, in the oddest ways at time, the fictional portrayal of "vampires" does occasionally and unknowingly stumble into actually get it right... though for all the wrong reasons.

The "hypnotic allure" of which you speak is how fiction portrays the extraordinary"empathy," the natural (or, perhaps, unnatural) attraction, the initial "bonding" that begins to occur when first a true "vampire" comes into close physical and/or emotional and sensual ... proximity to females who are also as he is (i.e., who likewise fully possess the same unlimited emotional/spiritual and sensual capacity as does he).

Of course as females are far more commonly potentiated to this same degree, yet almost no males are, one should then understand why such males (i.e., "vampires") are so exceptionally rare. Thus, while the "vampire" is well acquainted with the sensation ("spidey-sense"... kinda) of emotionally/spiritually recognizing females around him who are as emotionally/spiritually/sensually potentiated as himself... yet for females who have probably never before been in proximity to such a rare male as themselves, cannot but find this sudden attraction they feel to be a most disconcerting if not initially disturbing experience. They find they are at the same time immediately drawn to this unknown stranger on all levels, yet also are understandably confused and troubled by this inexplicable attraction that goes so far beyond previous attractions they might have felt for another man.

As almost all other men simply do not possess this developed capacity, either emotionally or spiritually... and thus neither sensually, as well... only rarely in all of recorded history do we find such men ("vampires") in evidence. This is described in part in ancient Sumerian literature (and liturgy), in Egyptian literature (also in its liturgy), and... perhaps shockingly... in the New Testament, as well. This also fully explains why such "vampires" were quickly hated by normal males and quickly targeted for violence and murder... and why women were denigrated for their equally superior capacities, as well.


There is a scene in "Dracula 2000" that, when I saw it, surprised me greatly at how unknowingly accurate it portrayed this very real and powerful "allure." On one occasion in the movie, the "vampire" walks past a number of women at a mall. As he does so, the females he passed close to suddenly sensed something in him they had never before encountered... and to which they were instantly drawn, yet without having a clue as to why. The scene lasts all of perhaps 5 to 10 seconds... yet is, in my view, probably the most truthful and the most powerful single scene in all of vampire cinema.


- Upir'

UpirLikhyj, quite a lengthy but interesting post to which I would have to submittedly agree with. In most cases women do tend to feel most confused, overwhelmed, or indeed intimidated by such rare males. Sweet memories of this have been provoked by your post and I thank you for your response. However, in saying this too, those women that do possess the same as those rare males also find that those roles can and usually are reversed. Meaning that those men that come into the proximity of these omnipotent women can also find themselves experiencing the same if not a more complex series of sensations. As I've experienced, most men have some trouble in recognising various emotions and placing them into words, henceforth, being able to either understand them or moreover having the ability to cope with them.

To continue...

This, then, is... the historical "Vampire." And your reaction (so unlike the inferior-to-superior reaction you seemed to recount with "most men") and fascination mingled with disbelief and incomprehension... is exactly the very real nature of the legendary Vampire's "hypnotic allure."

It's not about a woman reacting as an inferior to a superior male... for there truly are no such males nor should there be! Instead, your reaction is the wonderment of instead finding a true equal and realizing all the true potentials possible in ALL ways were such two people to merge, to commune, to "fly" together... as one... for then they would be truly one.

This is what true sacred marriage ("Hieros Gamos" ["Sacred Marriage"]) was to the Ancients. This is... the "Sacrament of the Bridal Chamber" that the true historical "Jesus" attempted to restore (Gospel of Philip)... and for which attempt he, like so many of the others before him, also was murdered.

But... i digress.


The "hypnotic allure" to which I refer is that when empathetically recognized that you have encountered a true equal ... in a man! And, additionally, the emotional turmoil inside that will occur as you struggle to come to grips with the amazing realization that, as impossible as it has always seemed, yet like you, he also possesses the same emotional and empathetic depth to recognize in you... this same equality (sorry... but another extremely key reference here to include: Gospel of Thomas [Verse 51b]) as you also possess and never thought possible to find in a ... man.

Thus, together with him... You truly know and are known. For the first time, you realize there truly exists the potential of fully loving and being loved by a man equal to yourself, a man truly like you... and you, him. And while you might feel you have perhaps encountered such a man in your past... yet I would wager you have not; they are simply that rare (as rare as... well... "Vampires"). Should you ever, you would only then understand fully that to which I have so inadequately attempted to illustrate in but these few small paragraphs.

I can only but hope that, perhaps, the true import and depth of these principles might be empathetically understood... for only in such a manner will they be. Only then might it be more clearly understood just who and what the true historical "Vampire" was... and is. Perhaps also it might be now better understood why females who have developed their capacities to equal that of the "Vampire" naturally are drawn to such extremely rare males should one such appear amongst them (as did the "Fallen Angels" of old), and he to them likewise. Perhaps also it might now be clear why "most men," seeing this natural reaction between females and "Vampire," would quickly come not only to resent such unique men (as they subconsciously also do and always have such women, as well), but further seek their lives (as also they did in the "Burning Times" to primarily females... and for the same reason) after, of course, first vilifying them so as to justify such slaughters (e.g. as... "Fallen Angels," "Vampires," "Witches").


- Upir'

Hypnotic allure to me is ones own or trained talent to build rapport with another as in, NLP. This matching of body language and identified emotional states can and will in fact produce a slight altered state in someone enough to either gain information or create a tone of suggestibility. Some are much more inclined to this and the would be Vampire would do well in gaining a understanding of this ability.

.. call me simple-minded [YOU DARE!!] but I am off the sincere belief that we alll have this ability; it's just whether we can master the art.. well, control it.

CONTROL is most definitely the key. Which moreover can be applied to everything really.

Aside from ~Upir's~ posting perspective, I think I would sum it up in one word, even though this word is based on a roleplay perspective.

The word is "thaumaturgy." In an empathic perspective, thaumaturgy is the act of mesmerizing the audience to a fine point as to where the individual that is mesmerising seems to have the audience under their total control. I may have this word wrong, so anyone that has played the vampires: the masquerade game, may correct me.

The appeal to this vampiric effect could be deemed as a hypnotic allure and or gesture. I have used this ability many times in the past. But have no need for it now-a-days. Though I can still use it, it is not needed as I have no use for it. It was in intention to be used for romantic subtleties for grasping the female counterpart and taking her into me metaphorically speaking of course. It had worked on several occasions. Again, I do not use it these days, there is no need.

Some vampiric abilities, attributes, and or qualities are very real, can and may be used for the benefit of love, money, well being and other nessessities. But it is a notion that should be used wtih professionalism and maturity if indeed the individual has honed such a trait.

vvSoulshroudevv, thaumaturgy could be used as one of the appropriate terms here, as it does mean that of "the working of wonders or miracles; magic". But a more possible term that could be regarded to this and the same is that of 'glamouring'. The term that refers to both that of the quality of fascinating, alluring, or attracting, esp. by a combination of charm and good looks, AND that of, having an air of compelling charm, romance, and excitement, especially when delusively alluring. Even archaically speaking it could also refer to that of a magic spell, and/or enchantment.

I was trying to keep with scientific methods, means and terms rather then fictional based terms such as the art of the "glamour." As it seems a bit too cliche for this thread. Or does it? *Shrugs*

Depending upon which definition that one seeks in regards to 'glamour', one might wish to regard it as a kind of magic that clouds the mind of the victims (for lack of a better word; it's painless). For instance, a vampire may use glamour to appear more beautiful or even as a disguise.

quick question. Is the post about hypnotizing effect or magnetic attraction? I would think there is a difference.

Darkbutterfly, hynotic allure.