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Did a vampire or vampires create heaven and earth or the whole universe and what are real vampires?
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IscariotSun
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07:27:46 Nov 15 2009
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I dont claim to know everything but I do have some wisdom and foolishness
So did vampires create all life as we know it? please share your views.




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07:39:07 Nov 15 2009
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As per your wisdom and foolishness comment, which is it with this thread?

As far as vampires creating the heavens and the earth, this would go against most or all theological boundaries. As it would be put into that little thicket called "heresy."

Other then conspiracy theory, and lack of documented proof that vampires actual created any life on Earth as well as the Earth itself, this thread could be seen as a foolishness piece.

Though the second part of the thread "what are real vampires" has been done within other threads and therefore bringing it into this one would be a moot point, all together.

What brings you to your judgement, hypothesis and or conclusion regarding your thread title?



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07:48:40 Nov 15 2009
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well as for as the theo goes god created everything and thus god is a word and if all words come from god the word is vampire so how can god not be all of his or her words thus did vampires create heaven and earth



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07:58:49 Nov 15 2009
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You seem to be reaching, without providing proper analytical evaluative evidence based on your conclusion, other then that of biblical natured testimony.

Any other relevant documentation that would support your theory?



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08:16:36 Nov 15 2009
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go look in the mirror and see your true self I am the mirror as far as proof I am sharper than any two edged sword if education has done anyone good than that shows he who knows knows not. so why spend time trying to use that education to put up blocks its seems like someone is straining over a knat and swallowing a camle so if any wants to pull my strings know that I am also pulling the strings I see that some who claim to be so important and know what they are taliking about realy need to go back to ground zero and learn something for once an education is not going to help if the education is not used right



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08:56:35 Nov 15 2009
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*Chuckles* Once again, someone really needs to lay off the testosterone pills. I am not trying to ridicule, nor put you down in any way, shape or form.

It just seems that a thread of this nature is based off of conspiracy theories and would likely insult those of specific religious values and or belief.

One does not need to look into any mirror for a "true" identity to show through. I do not see the relevance of looking into a mirror for proof that vampires did indeed create the heavens and or the earth for that matter, or even the whole of the universe.

This entire thread seems more like a play in jest then anything. It would outline a fundamentally flawed idealogy that is completely based on conspiracy theory alone. Given that the whole of humanity seems to have been lessoned a long while ago, that scientific data would say that micro organisms would be the creation factor in all things. It would be where the term "mitochondira" comes into play.

Nothing to do with any sort of spiritual creator called: vampire or what ever other name is chosen for such inspirational, or defamational nonesense.

(Note: Please do not insult, or flame members of the rave, just because their views and or opinions are differant then any other.)



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09:34:30 Nov 15 2009
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well thank you very much and as far as a conspiracy or ridicule to any religion or belief to truth hurts and if the truth does not agree with some ones religion or belief and is considerd slander or ridicule than may the best man win and as a mirror is concerned I had no reflection until the truth came about and as a vampire born soul I am not here to flame anyone including you so the point of posting on this forum what I have asked did a vampire create heaven and earth is meant for all who claim to be vampires or just love them in a true way so I can see how this might bug some people just like shineing a flash light in some persons eyes can bug but I think it is a very blessed question who is to say that it is not true everyone has a spirit and just because one might say well I cant see a spirit then since I cant see it its not real or relavent and dad or mom is the name of god on the lips of children and every vampire has had a mom or a dad and most still do so thank you and I hope this thread might be good so if I have wronged you with my respons I am very sorry



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09:43:46 Nov 15 2009
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seriously this made me laugh,vampyres may be known as creators of their own kind but the heavens and the earth if so i would ask why would not they create all to be immortal okay it seems i'm lighting fire to a flame that truely is not worth being lit but in all honesty i am agianst religion being a part of vampirism
this post would be better suited as toilet paper but then agian thats just my own personal opinions



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09:55:31 Nov 15 2009
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what does creating have to do with religion just because a vampire is a god what makes that any kind of religion and bless you mind fate because you spoke some truth I am realy tiolet papper to honest with you and the vampire creativity is in a class of its own and that crativity is found in all and everything and I would rather have you wipe than well you know no one want to smell doo doo so even though its not nice some times to be needed I do my job



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10:06:58 Nov 15 2009
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IscariotSun, you said in the title of the thread that a vampire created the Universe. So... Who created the Vampire, that created the Universe?



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10:13:25 Nov 15 2009
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This thread lost its sense of purpose when it was first posted.

As far as religion goes in aspect of your last post, creation has to do with religion from the biblical testimony "God" created the heavens and the Earth, so in your hypothesis, God is presumed to be a vampire. Thus creation has everything to do with your theory.

You seem to contradict yourself throughout this entire thread. I will not comment as to where, since it is immediately clear.

Then we go into the old "what came first, the chicken or the egg," in light of ~Gordon's~ post as: "Who created the Vampire, that created the Universe?"

Well speculated ~Gordon~.



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11:12:45 Nov 15 2009
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blessed gordon please bare with me. when god created the life force god was creating her and him self but truly god is a vampire and as the vampire god had no begining nor ending for all eternity and was the great great force you see its like mother like daughter like father like son they are all one and the same but it can only truly been seen when the vail is removed that is a type of blinder and can only be removed through the vampires way of feeding I hope you might understan

and for the other respons forgive me I cant remember your name but about contradiction and the biblical teaching those teachings are full of contradictions for the bible says that the temple of god is every life form and its your body and that the spirit of god lives in those temples and that being said this is one of the bibles contradictions in hebrews it says that only christ is gods son and it says the same in the good news of john but the fact that gods creations are is temple show that the bible is contadicting it self stateing to which of the angels did god ever say you are my son and this day I have become your father or to which of the angels did god ever say I will make your enemies to be your foot stool and you shall rule them with an iron rod so please do look into what I am pointing out if humans are gods temple and children his angels are gods children as well and another contradiction is in the book of romans it say that he died once and for all and that death has no more power over him but in hebrews it says that if after he died and gives us the gift if we should do wrong or bad again then we are killing him openly in public and puting him to shame thus crusifying him again is this not a type of contradiction if death has no more power over him



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11:19:58 Nov 15 2009
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I did not say that the bible was in contradiction, I stated that you were presenting your theory in a contradictive aspect.

You seem to be borderlining fact and fiction all in the same dialogue to try and prove a point.

Where do you want to take your audience?



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11:49:52 Nov 15 2009
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well were do I vaunt to take my adiance

its meant to be for a self realization and an enlightining expirience for vampires to reconect with the vampire creatore that embodies all life forms and dispell the old superstions that are held concerning vampires did a vampire create all that is hopeing that I might be able to find thoes who would see this post and feel at home for as a vampire I need to get back in touch with my vampire roots when a vampire is driven from its true place in life it can be very bad in many ways so to say that vampires are not all life can bring about some unwanted effects not only on the individual vampire but on all life that is a true part of the vampire



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11:53:02 Nov 15 2009
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As well as learn proper grammar, no offense... But your paragraphs with no readable layout IE comma's, qoutation marks, etc. As well as proper use of paragraph cuts. Are quite frankly, hurting my eyes.



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11:57:26 Nov 15 2009
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What came first?


Vampire Chicken



Or...



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the vampire spirit came first then the rest of the vampire creation was like bada boom bada bing bada bang

or about my gramer this very old vampire god put a curse on me by saying no man shall be your teacher only the vampire spirit and no man shall be your father but only the vampire spirit and no man shall be your master but only the vampire spirit so all my years of trying to learn general education have failed for the vampire words are most powerful but a promise the vampire god made to me said that when you find your true vampire family you may learn from them when the time is right for all and it will be as if you are learning from the vampire gods wisdom but he warned me about some curses that might take place because of the true vampire portion of knowledge that was given me when I was created by the vampire gods as in different times I might be cursed to go through time passages frome the past to the future and back causeing me to be effected in a unfortunat way



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12:25:49 Nov 15 2009
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IscariotSun, who are the vampire gods that you talk about? What are their names. And other information would be useful to better understand your post.



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12:32:37 Nov 15 2009
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I think ~Iscariot~ is associating the theological "Christian" god, into the frey. Which is why I conjectured with the biblical query in the first place.



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I will tell you some names of the vampire gods but I must dine first and have some wine you know what I mean? for to speak the vampire gods names is a very powerful deed and can come with troubles if the domain in which the vampire names are spoken are not intune for the sound and if i am not well fed then I could have some complacations in speaking such a glorius names its like you dont put pants on without a belt because they might fall down and the sexy monster vamps can eat you all up then you wont have legs so i must feast



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12:39:34 Nov 15 2009
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Oh, and don't bother with fictional names, as I am fully aware of most god mythos involving conspiracy as well as factual theological persuasions thereof. As in, dieties associated with most theistic practices.



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15:44:06 Nov 15 2009
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I wager the Doms close this in three more post.



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There is no proof given of Vampires as yet in science so creating a creature that needs human blood to live before creating humans makes little sense.


Just as this discussion went straight to a dispute over god and existence once again, I'm closing it now.



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