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TwistedRain
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the forums are always full threads talking about whether vamps are real or not etc and its getting tiresome.Lets talk about another legendary creature,one that has a strong possiblity of existing(since it would only be a really gigantic squid or something)
right here what we should post about it.

1 what you know about it.
2 any known sightings and if it has been mentioned in the news.
3 possible location of it.
4 have you seen it or any other potential sea monster.
5 do you think its supernatural or has supernatural abilities or just a giant cephalopod.

well here is a quick opinion from me.

1 its a gargantuan cephalopod(perhaps a squid) that lived in the very deep depths of the sea and has been sighted and reported attacking ships.sailors used to tell tales about it.The size of it meant it could easily take down ships.
2 alot of people have claimed to have seen it,but other than that i have not seen the kraken mentioned in the news or paper.
3 in the deepest part of the ocean,since it live(d) that deep in the oceon,it could still exist.
4 no never seen it.
5 nope i think it was just like any other old creature that lived in very ancient times(though it survived it) that it was just a gigantic ancestor of a gigant/colossal squid.The megalodon was a gigantic shark so its possible that the prehistoric squid was the same.




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12:44:02 Nov 18 2009
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i don't know much about that though i have seen sci-fi movies and books with large squid like creatures,things like this always make me wonder...fact or fiction?
would be interesting to hear about any historical evidance if there is any.



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13:29:26 Nov 18 2009
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a lot of animals have survived the prehistoric days such as sharks,crocodiles,turtles etc but most have evolved.
so its possible the kraken still exists,its just lurking down there in the blackness of the deep oceon.



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13:52:35 Nov 18 2009
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So its equally possible of megaladon or "super croc"(idk the real name) and there could be any number of direct ancestors of primitive gargantuan beasts. Like a saber toothed tiger or Tremendous wolves. All stories have to come from somewhere...



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it could be true,though i doubt the ones on land will still exist(humans destroying a lot of natural habitat) a kraken coulds still exist because no human could get to it.hmm i wonder if the kraken is connected to the bermuda triangle,they say ships disappear there.
the krakens could be cause of the ships vanishing,dragging them down to the crushing depths of the sea.



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Thats very possible and i almost said that on my last post. But earth is a big place, humans cant have touched every part of the land. Every geographer on earth could tellme otherwise and i wouldnt believe it. And that could be the reasoning to so called Mythical creatures ex; Minotaurs, Achupa Cabre(probably butchered that ones name) hell even sasquatch



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14:12:45 Nov 18 2009
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I myself have not ever heard of the name Kraken, yet, I have heard of huge animals who as you mentioned have survived the prehistoric age.

They have stories on large *huge squids, croc's etc that have been seen and stuff yet not in the USA but, in other countries that are well much older than we are. and myself I would not mid seeing any as long as it is at a far distant LOL

I think that there are many different species that evolved also out of the Asian part of the world do to the Atom bomb and radiation that was used to bomb certain island of Japan during the War.



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14:43:08 Nov 18 2009
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I never really put much thought into it but yeah all the radiation could have some severe effects on animalsi mean hell look what it did to the survivors and kids that were born with radiation



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i seriously doubt it,Krakens were reported hundreds of years ago,so there was no atom bombs or anything like that then.besides i doubt radiation could mutate it like that,it woulds certainly get cancer and tumours from it and then die. lol



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15:04:35 Nov 18 2009
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Anything is possible. Fossil records of the deep sea are obviously difficult to study in full, unless in an area where what used to be an ancient sea or ocean is now land.

What humans knew about the oceans 1,000 to 10,000 years ago was limited at best. Creatures such as the Kraken may very well have existed in one form or another. If it is an extinct species we may never know.



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15:27:00 Nov 18 2009
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I blame the vikings.
Well, Norwegian & Icelandic sailors anyway. I believe the original stories of the Kraken were based on sailors' accounts of large squid or octopi from the 13th century. And, as with most sailors, the stories become exaggerated.

I find it interesting that every Old World culture includes giant mythical sea creatures (and lake creatures), and that these legends still stay with us -- despite the scant evidence to support them. Perhaps we want to believe them. Perhaps it is something that are pre-wired to believe.



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15:33:11 Nov 18 2009
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true but it could have been real,there is a lot of things that dwell in the deep,some species we still have not discovered.



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15:39:02 Nov 18 2009
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Yes but exaggerations are based on some fact... for instance, if i saw a dragon about 20 feet tall and told everyone it was the biggest thing ive ever seen, thats based on fact. the fact that it was 20 feet is 20 feet tall is a huge animal upright and could have appeared bigger than it was



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true,but we will never know unless we see one,right anyone here wants to volunteer for going to the bermuda triangle or going very deep down in the water(though you will be crushed)
they must have been big to bring down ships and yes i know sailors and people in general stretch the truth but a lot of ships of disappeared in the bermuda triangle,so something very big has to be the cause(assuming it is something from the ocean causing it and they are being dragged down.)



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16:13:22 Nov 18 2009
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right. I really cant see what natural event that takes ship under water never to be found... A verry large creature with immense strength sounds like a good conclusion but without proof noone will ever know



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16:13:24 Nov 18 2009
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right. I really cant see what natural event that takes ship under water never to be found... A verry large creature with immense strength sounds like a good conclusion but without proof noone will ever know



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16:19:03 Nov 18 2009
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read you the first time lol

one day we might find out.with better and more stronger submarines(to withstand pressure etc) we can explore the bottom of the oceon.
so what do you know of Krakens and where do you think they would be?



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16:25:57 Nov 18 2009
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i know that kraken(s) (as there may be more than 1) are like a squid/octopus are supposedly giant have 6-10 tentacles have a barb on the end of each and are supposedly are from around the mariana trench, indian ocean black sea and all major oceans



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16:48:04 Nov 18 2009
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Well I was not meaning that all unual species or large ones are from the Atom bomb, just that there are mutated species out there as well as just large ones that have just evolved on their own. Like in the Black Sea and dead sea.

when inTurkey seen some huge Octopuses and stingrays as well

(I am also bitchinhell)

plus radiation does not always cause something to die. ;) just mutate.



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The Oarfish. It can grow up to 50 feet in length. There are old drawings of what appears to be a water serpent, a great and terrible dragon that emerges from the depths of the ocean and scares fishermen and sailors alike.... Yet the drawings almost perfectly copy the appearance of the relatively harmless but large Oarfish.

This is just an example of how the truth will become dressed up as a fanciful story. A Kraken emerged from the depths of the ocean and attacked a boat? Not likely.

1. A dying giant squid floated towards the service and may have encountered a ship and its limbs may have been exploring the surface of the boat before it passed on.

2. A lot of people claiming one thing has been proven to never be a reliable source.

3. Giant squid and other very large creatures DO exist today.

4. How exactly is an old creature going to survive through ancient times and then decide to attack a boat? The ancient deep sea creatures existed thousands of years ago, not hundreds. It is not likely that we have prehistoric creatures living today or were even alive a few hundred years ago.

5. People believe what they want to. Just as this thread is proving. There is no Kraken. The ocean is a great and mysterous place. Mankind has been forming stories and fantasies for centuries and I can tell you, a bunch of men stuck together on a boat for months will make up some damn interesting tales.

This doesn't make other things we have in this world less interesting. I think real deep sea creatures are more fascinating than stories bored people make up about mythological creatures.



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18:15:23 Nov 18 2009
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Very well put Morrigon (sp), that is what i am saying also there are big ones out there, but does not mean that they have been here for 1000's of years ..how would they had survived the ice age and stuff.

oh well, just an opinion .



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18:22:21 Nov 18 2009
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Is it not possible the ice age didnt effect anything that far down in the sea? and its already extremly cold so maybe they are used to the frigid temperature



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giants squids have been found that are up to 50 feet long i forgot how big the biggest was i saw a documentary on tv about it. i think it is totally possible for an evern bigger giant cephalopod to be living on the bottom of the ocean.



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