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raziel23x
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14:28:53 Jul 24 2010
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Here lately I have been noticing a
huge flood of new members joining the website and it seems that
none of them are even reading the site rules and they are
bitching about being forced inducted. I have even had one person
tell one of my ACM'S that apparently she had no clue about
what coven they wanted and she is going to get in trouble if she
forces him into the coven without his permission.

It would be a good idea to have a reminder message sent to all newbies reminding them they do not have a choice when it comes to joining covens or houses quoting the induction rules from the rule book.

These rules are:

Induction


Induction into any House or Coven is forced. You do not have a
choice as to whether or not you will be a member of a
House/Coven. An exception to this rule are members who hold the
rank of Sire. A Sire cannot be forcibly inducted. A Sire can join
any House/Coven (with the Master's permission) and leave any
House/Coven at any time. A Sire can also start their own Coven.


Your Master can sell or trade you to another House/Coven. You do
not have a choice if you will be sold or traded.


Induction Requirements


A perspective inductee must meet the following:




  • Be at least level 20


  • Be free of affiliation


  • Not be a Sire.


All Houses/Covens are limited to 5 inductions per 24 hour
period.


If you do not understand the underlying concepts behind forced
induction you should not be a member of Vampire Rave.



I am getting tired of theses newbies trying to tell me that I am not allowed to induct them or my ACM for that matter saying it is against the rules.

I know I am guilty at time for getting pissed when someone force inducts someone I am after because they was faster at clicking induct but I get over it and pay the favors to get them or get lucky have them to just give me them for free, but like I said I think out would be a great idea to have a automatic message sent to them when they are close to
level twenty warning them air three forced induction policy.

My main argument is that they keep complaining to us and telling us Coven Masters and Assistant Coven Masters that We are the ones who are breaking the rules by force inducting them into our covens against their will. I have had other Coven masters contact me telling me that many people have deleted their profiles when they are forced into the covens. So I believe that it would make it easier we should have a message sent out once they reach level nineteen to remind them that they have to accept the induction policy to continue and if they disagree then to save time the profile is deleted because
that is what ninety percent of the users are doing anyways if they do not get what they want.
My way of thinking is if Cancer did not want forced inductions he would of made the link invite not induct. I remember when all of this was not even a part of Vampire Rave. I been a part like most since the beginning. I delete my original profile back before we could change our names but like you say this had been an on-going issue since covens
came into being.

My questions to all of you is what do you think And, what are your ideas, as well as, what is your input on this topic?



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nightstalker44
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14:55:33 Jul 24 2010
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My thought on this is, why not just induct them and blind them until they know and understand the site rules.

They don't have a choice. No matter how mad this makes them, there is nothing they can do about it. They just won't have a very good time on the site.

Personally, I don't care if they have a good time or not. If they didn't read the site rules BEFORE making a profile, it's their own fault.



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mysticwinds
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15:11:37 Jul 24 2010
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This is a simple rule.
I was inducted when I 1st hit the induction level.
I bit the bullet and rather enjoyed it, and made the best of it,
which was much easier for myself and the other members.



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markus666
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16:03:55 Jul 24 2010
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well, here I go with my two cents to the subject. Yes, the rules and regulation of VR is that members in Level 20 can be inducted into a coven, they like it or not. What make some members mad, is that they are Paying members, and to enjoy the site, they prefer to have the "choice" of picking their own coven. Now, about the problem that this can bring to a coven, well, a good drama. The blinding system always keep those members in confinement, until they are trade. But, almost nobody want those trouble or outspoken individuals.



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Asura
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16:07:24 Jul 24 2010
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I think everybody stands differently on the matter. Most nice covens don't force induct if the person wants to be in a particular coven. I know it's a rule for this website and people have to accept it whether they like it or not but it doesn't matter one way or another, they will still go to whatever coven they wish to. Why would anyone want to keep an unhappy coven member? If anything, I think it's one of the things that NEEDS to change.



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nightstalker44
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17:54:45 Jul 24 2010
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Honestly, they should test the site out before becoming a paying member.

Forced induction should NEVER change.



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Bones
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18:05:30 Jul 24 2010
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"It would be a good idea to have a reminder message sent to all newbies reminding them they do not have a choice when it comes to joining covens or houses quoting the induction rules from the rule book."

I disagree. Keep in mind that Vampire Rave is part of, The Dark Network, and that there are other sites besides VR that members join through. Does this mean as a member of the other affiliated sites of the Dark Network they're bound to policies of society membership? Society membership on Vampire Rave is not a rule within this site, the VR Manual, or the ToS.

Given the fact that Vampire Rave is part of The Dark Network, where members aren't expected to abide by induction policies in other sites besides VR, there is no debate here. .Give this some thought, please. Thank you!

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