I find these two women to be quite interesting. Although I have heard many say Bathory killed more people, La Voisin's numbers far surpass Bathory.
Does anyone know of any other female serial killers back in the day?
It seems to me that the female serial killers are much more violent and aggressive than their male counterparts.
Any thoughts as to why?
thats because they are more cool and collected than males, they don't kill people in a crazy rage.
i know who Bathory was, but who was this other woman?
Catherine Deshayes, "La Voisin" (c. 1640–1680), boastfully stated that she had sacrificed more than 2,500 children who had their throats slit at her Black Sabbats.
"It seems to me that the female serial killers are much more violent and aggressive than their male counterparts.
Any thoughts as to why?"
I'm not so sure that females are actually more violent, perhaps we stereotype females as being the 'gentle sex' therefore we find violent aggression committed by females to be more disturbing than violence committed by males. Both males and females have the exact same potential to become serial killers, there are no biological differences in their brains to account for sociopathic behaviour.
From a book entitled, "Sex Crimes in History: Evolving concepts of sadism, lust-murder, and necrophilia from ancient to modern times" by R.E.L. Masters and Eduard LEA
"Female sadists and mass-murderers have been less frequent than male ones, though perhaps only because women have less often attained to positions of power where large scale crimes were possible. Yet even if one takes the highest estimate of Countess Bathory's victims (about 650), she is not , from a numerical standpoint, history's champion butcheress. That distinction must be granted to the "witch" Catherine la Voisin, who may have been involved in the slaughter of more than fifteen hundred children and infants.
More than one hundred and forty children were named in the bill of particulars against the Abbe'-Guibourg, who sacrificed most of them in behalf of Madame de Montespan's desire to become the wife as well as the mistress of Louis XIV. The Voisin-Guibourg-Montespan case, which also involved many of the most prominent persons in France, may have contained elements of Vampirism. The blood of the slain child was collected in a chalice and then either drunk or poured over the naked body of the person for whom the magical ceremony was being celebrated. Moreover, the blood, bones, and entrails, and sometimes the brains of the slain babes were used in the preparation of love potions. The story sounds preposterous, but there is an abundance of substantiating evidence. Infants and children were easy to obtain at the time. It is said that a woman called la Chaufrein, one of Guibourg's mistresses, could supply an infant for the price of only one crown.
There was no evidence that la Voisin was a sadist. Her motivation was monetary. But for examples of female sex pleasure of a sadistic sort we are not at all lacking."
PAGAN: I have never though females were the, "gentler sex". In fact we are anything but gentle. We are lying and deceitful. Some men are, yes, but women tend to be more prone to anger and violence then a man. The reason is because women are highly jealous. Men can go about their day totally laid back and mellow, and a woman will ravage through his shit because she thinks he is up to something.
And then the shit hits the fan. Sure you have those stupid women that intimidate their man because they are overly jealous and it escalates into a fight and he hits her and she cowers in fear and tells no one until its too late (thus some of society think we are a gentler sex and stupid too for not fighting back), and then you have those women that get all psycho and pick up blunt objects and go for any body part they can aim at.
Females are not the gentler sex. Females are the, "I am so jealous and I am going to nag and bitch at you until you decide to beat me and I won't hit back because I want everyone to feel sorry for me" sex.
id rather a gang of angry men come after me with swords, than a similar gang of women with knives.
the men would just kill me...
i think women would take their time!
lol
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see i wonder if these women heard about bathory, since the whole pouring blood over yourself is very similar to what she did
Sorry if I offended anyone by the comment about females. But it's true.
And I would rather fight a man than a woman any day.
Women are just plain evil.
It is hard to say whether they heard of her or not. La Voisin was born 26 years after Bathory died. While she could be mimicking what Bathory did, I highly doubt it as Bathory was just considered insane bathing in the blood of virgins while La Voisin was deemed a witch and held satanic rituals using the bodily fluids of children and babies for love potions etc.
"...While female serial killers are not very common, they do exist and are quite different from their male counterparts.
We hear more about male serial killers in the media because their crimes are much more horrific...men usually seek attention for their crimes and do not try to hide them. Often, the crime scenes are manipulated to provide clues for authorities and to entice the media. More often than not, the body count of a male serial killer is higher than that of most women serial killers. Some killers have murdered over three hundred victims. Women, on the other hand, are less visible and use methods such as poisoning in order to be discrete and keep under the radar. This accounts for eighty percent of the methods used to kill their victims. Women can be termed gentle killers; however, their methods are still gruesome, just less graphic in nature...prey upon people who are dependent upon them and those with whom they are acquainted. The revenge killer is another common type of female serial killer who murders people who have wronged them out of hate and jealousy. Unlike the Black Widow, these killers do not seek attention and sympathy. They act purely for personal satisfaction. Males have a common pattern of killing strangers instead. They also tend to enjoy killing prostitutes and the filth of society...here are few documented cases of female serial killers; however, violence and killing by women is steadily on the rise. White women are much more likely to be a serial killer than African-American, Asian, or Hispanic men..."
http://www.lsu.edu/faculty/jpullia/femaleserialkillers.htm
Actually, I would say men are more under control of their emotions than a woman would be. If you see that women are more "vicious" then a man, it's mostly because they let their PMS get the best of them. lol Horomones are not exactly a ladies best friend esp if out of whack and sure the men have a history always of being violent but usually ....territorial, defensive, protectiveness, possibly possessive to a point but that's my guess as to why make the ladies just have a tendency to be more ebil in nature.