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What one must do to protect onself from opposing spiritual intervention.. What Would I be protecting myself against? How do I do it? And Can I feel it, During Astral Travel if something Malevolant IS trying to intercept me?

Minx.

Before you start the astral travel stuff get the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram down, that should at least keep you safe for a time.

Generally your flesh is left vulnerable until you develop a spilt consciousness were your in your body and on the planes at the same time.

Knowing where your headed, how long your going to be, Like travel plans in the begining help, as well as not telling anyone where you headed, just go, do your business and come back till you learn the nature of what is up there.

InfernalImage.. Thank you.. Interesting information, Especially the part about 'travel planning' I hadn't thought of that at all til now!

Well im glad to be of help.

I'ts said that people astral travel in their sleep, if that is so, no precautions are generally taken.

By and large there is a pretty huge difference between conscious astral and sleeping astral or 'lucid dreaming'.

Astral travel like what Minx describes is deliberate soul travel. Rituals such as the one Infernal Mage describes are helpful. I find that most any protection spell is good, as well as knowing where you are going.

After all, you don't want to randomly fly through a warp hole unless you're the Robinsons...

In response, you learn to tell what is what on the astral planes. After enough times you start to get a sense for what is normal and what isn't, which may be a sign of danger. I always supply myself with a quick exit trigger... don't like using it, but it works.

Never astral without a safeword.... LOL.

I lite white sage and a white candle before I do any traveling out side the body. It seems to help out alot because the candle lites the way for the spirt to come back to the body and It is also relaxing as well.

the spirit never loses its way. that's a myth.

Warp holes ?....no I wouldn't want to fly through one of those.

I would. lol

I wanna know a little thing about astral travel, I can do it on will, but my daughter it kind a happen whitout her wanting it, so she cant prepare or anything, is there any help she can have, I cant I tried but expect my own way when I do it by making sure my body is safe and protected, she cant walk around or go to bed all the time with a pentagra, or similar protection and I can talwyas be there. any hint?

I would beg to differ about the soul loosing its way as a myth, if the soul is detached from the silver cord of its solar plexis, then it may indeed loose its way back to its body.

A good way to protect yourself before the astral travel, is either a dream catcher somewhere in the room, or a white candle in front of a mirror. Wind chimes believe it or not are a very good protection against harm as well, as the astral is like traveling in water, all sounds are amplified times 100. Just remember, never travel near darkness.

Hmm well, I like to go to bed about 30 minuts early...I turn all lights out and lay as comfortable as I can in my bed...I try to enduce sleep on my own, but in doing so I visualize where I want to go and what I want to dream about, all the while im also Preventing myself from falling asleep, so I guess you could say I was meditating or puting myself in a trance...not sure what you would call it, but it orks most of the time, as long as I stay concentrated on my goals that is...most people cant close there eyes and thing of 1 still moment for more than a minut the best way to train this is to sit and think of a shape for as long as you can, a circle, square, something...then after you are able to hold that image for longer than 5 minuts in your head with your eyes closed, move to a harder form, like a rose, or a dollar bill...use the same tactics over and over again untll you are able to see a full picture in your mind...I can hold 1 thought, one image in my mind for almost an hour now...when I started, I couldent hold a period in my mind for 5 secconds...if your interested...start training yourself to do this, I promise you it will work o.-

It depends on what state you entered to achieve the projection. If you're using meditation to achieve it, then you should be ok and have warning , if you're using drugs to achieve the state, you become completely vulnerable, and sometimes with no warning at all.

Ok How can I stay away from the dark? And arn't dreamcatchers of Native American Beliefs.?

When i have attempted to Astral Travel I already feel a kind of Umbiliculus... I feel I am still attached and it is just stretching as I travel.. I haven't been able to get far enough.. I always shoot back.

I would not be as shallow as not to believe in anothers costums...Dream catchers work whether you believe they do or not. There are many types of practices out there, borrowed and learned...Do not doubt one does not work if it is from another society. Dream catchers are a very powerful device. As are wind chimes.

I do not know to much about astral traveling, but i have tried it a few times and nothing happend, but if their is something out their that can hurt you while your doing it then i do not believe their is much you could do to stop it from happening...

Haha, yea, dont want to accidently get that cord cut. unless of course you want the flesh to die.

Shroud.. Have I given an Indication that I am Being Shallow at all?

My question was of 'inquisition'. I do believe in Dreamcatchers.. As i admire Native American Belief.
But as a dream is different to 'astral travel' Then I am intruigued as to how a dream catcher would work.

So.... How do the dreamcatchers Work in conjunction with Astral travel?

I have also tried and failed to astral travel. I belief I'll try Belthazar's visualization exercise. Thanks:)

i have said this to others. go tooled up. do not venture alone - take your power animal with you. learn to utilize protection glyphs.if you can learn to create protection glyphs out of light, you have a good weapon for self defense. also learn to create a cone of protection and safe spheres.

I have never tried to Astal Travel and never have.....but would have considered trying it a few times...not sure if I could though

I think that infernalmage hit the nail on the head. I would like to add that there are a large amount of spells that can be cast to aid you in the beginning. However, as infernal stated, it would only be to start with as once you have learnt how to split your conciousness you are much more protected than when you first start.

When I first started I was lucky enough to have a very good mentor to help protect me aswell as a spirit guide who also protected me whilst i travelled.

i have done it in my sleep and i help me see where i need to do next in my life

I have done it a few times and all I do is wear a pentagram and have someone there to keep a watch on me until I return. :) Never do anything like this alone until you get the hang of it. it can be VERY dangerous. :)

Personally i learned the hard way.

I was told by my other friends who were plane traveling that you have to discover how to leave your body yourself. We all start there. You have to know your trigger to where you don't just stop when you feel that wall, but that you know how to get around that wall. Then it goes from there. It has to be done alone the first time. No one can show you, no one can teach you, you have to learn from your successes and your failures, observe them, and record them for later reference. If i had a regret it would be that in my years of practice i was better at keeping a journal, and that my work was never stolen. But we go from one point at a time, we take the point we are at, master it, and move to the next. "to be better the next day" to always striving to be better then the day before, is a concept that you should ingrain into your nature no matter what you set your mind to. Astral projection becomes then a tool and a weapon, master the art and become skilled or fall prey to its traps and suffer.

So what travel agency do you have to go through to Astral and what about customs and security checks? Do we need passports?

Seriously, Minx I have known a few folks that have said they can do this and taught that you do need to protect yourself but in a mental like state not meaning to wear a “necklace”. They also taught that you could encounter others and or others could hunt you down.

Sadly most of it sounded like pop culture talk and it would have fit well into any modern role playing game or current witchcraft or metaphysical TV show. But they where some very creditable people and not the type that’d lie or misrepresent information about a topic or experience.

So whatever you try and do please be careful and keep a well focused and relaxed mind. Remember the mind acts quickly and in an instinctual like manner. If your worried about trouble go with your gut feeling and if you feel you need a trinket around your neck or to perform a ritual before bed than I’d recommend doing it as it would help you focus and relax your mind.

:) Good luck dear.

And there I see a problem, astral ascending in bed only leads to dream as guess what, your trained to sleep in beds.
Try meditating during the day… that my dear travelers is the correct way.
As for protection … what ever floats your boat, it is your will or belief that protects not the object.

Have just found this link for those who are interested


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6960612.stm

I Never Travel Alone! I have always had someone near me.

I went further yesterday... I sense myself letting go from myself.. BUT I get insecure because i know not, what i Am then, letting myself in to.


So i jump back out..

Astral traveling is a natural during sleep. So, laying in bed practicing astral travel is fine. Do not lay down while doing your meditations. But astral work is OK. You need to train the mind for something that you want to have conscience control and this is new for it. It is not hard. It is only something new. If you have a hard time learning new things, or scared of change, it may prove a little difficult but it can be done. Have your intention of what you want to do down first.
"Make it simple - keep it sacred. "
This means to prepare the room, smudge, shower, quiet time, etc. Want to meet your guide? Know your guardians? Visit a certain place? Do not make it too hard and let whatever happen, happen. Observe but do not analyze.
Do not worry about the what ifs!
Nothing bad is going to happen - honest.
CryingMist's daughter can do this on the spot because I believe she is a "crystal." They do not have concerns about all these what ifs that we have heard in the past. She is not concern. You or anyone else shouldn't be either. You will not get lost or have the silver cord broken. This couldn't happen if you wanted it too!
Some people do get headaches or seem "out of it" for a hour or two afterwards but this is only because they are forcing. So, don't.

someone mention windcharm I have them, one on each window and each door handle. They do help a lot, as yes the sound is amplify

I have heard of so much being used to protect you during this time.....but isn't different for each person? and depends on where they are going?

Natural shielding.

wear a carnelian amulet

I don't have any information for you as I don't believe in astral travel but good luck to you and if I find out anything that might help you I will pass it on. Although I do like reading what other people believe and have to say

What type of harm can come to someone while they astral travel, i mean unless they are going to be harmed by another astral traveler then i can not think of any...

Do a protection spell on yourself that should keep you safe while you astral travel.

Can you use spells while travelling astrally

I don't know about anyone else, but I know for me, I've always seen a cord connecting me. Always. A line between my Astral Representation, and my physical body. I just wanted to get that out there first and foremost.

As far as preperation... In my personal experience, learning to actually Travel at will is part of that preperation. Its relatively few people(and none I've ever met personally), that can travel onto the Astral Plane from get-go. It takes practice, dedication, and Will to do it in the first place. Those three factors, in and of themselves, are a huge step towards protecting yourself from Negative influences. Will is the key, and focusing it towards a goal is what the recipe calls for.

I've always found that Mediation before hand, including opening up my paths of power(Chakras), and filling them with energy from around me(in a controled space. I don't want negative energy) before I Travel is an A+ way of assuring protection. But having a Goal in mind.. having a place to travel, and a concious knowledge of what you want to acheive is paramount. Letting yourself wonder around places with no goal in mind is dangerous, and DOES leave you open to Suggestion.

In the words of someone better than myself, " It takes more effort to lift an apple with your mind, than it does to manipulate and entire country." Keep that in mind. =D

astral travel and how one protects themselves is always tricky because what works for someone else will not always work for the other person,there are alot of conciderations to put into aspect such as are you astral traveling for a positive action,and is the person thats astral projecting have positive or negative energy that will bring either light or dark spirits to them and do they know completely about all the different realms and the beings which exist in them and are they prepared to have such an experience.

Interesting thread.