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I am now begining considerations for bands for the next goth cruise.


If there is a band you would like considered.. this is the place to put it.




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Assemblage 23

Imperative Reaction

Covenant



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L'Âme Immortelle

Angels & Agony

Amduscia

Seabound (no pun intended!)

... and just throwing this out there...

Criss Angel

(although it probably would cost an arm, a leg and a kidney, to get someone like that...



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And One



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The Birthday Massacre!



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Rotersand!



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Covenant, Assemblage 23 or Rotersand.



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She Want's Revenge, The Cult, The Bravery, HIM, Project Pitchfork, Wumpscut, Icon of Coil, Wolfsheim, NIN, Rammstein. I second And One, Rotersand, Covenant, Assemblage 23 and Imperative Reaction. Or you can stick with who brought you to the dance ....... VNV Nation AGAIN!!!



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I second Rammstein!!!
With a lot of drool............



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If you are able to get them out of Europe for a week...

Front 242

Also:

Front Line Assembly
KMFDM

And for my "Gothic" sounding submission:

The Cruxshadows

(they put on a KILLER live show!!!)



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unfortunately, we cannot do Rammstein on a goth cruise. I have been told that they will not perform without their massive pyrotechnics.


40 foot flames on a cruise ship?? no way.



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Hanzel Und Gretyl
Front Line Assembly
Chemlab
VNV
C-Tec



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Cruxshadows and I bet Rogue and Jessie would be up for a free cruise.

KMFDM They do a great live show!



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Assemblage 23 and Rotersand!



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And One

The Cruxshadows

ThouShaltNot

Ego Likeness

Bella Morte

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We can do VNV again, but this time they must submit to us the promised CD.

(hint, hint, hint...update on this???)

*Update*
I'm still waiting to hear from Ronan. My last two emails were not responded to.



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Wumpscut!, Suicide Commando, Foetus, Electric Hellfire Club, Death In June, Boyd Rice, Destroid, Apoptygma Berzerk, She Wants Revenge.

Or maybe some generic loser ebm type band, with some really top notch cover bands. Depeche Mode cover band, Cure, the Smiths, etc. Also, there's an excellent Death In June cover band called Down In June.

Or maybe that death rapper guy, what's his name? Nekro?



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Yeah I've gotta second Wumpscut!



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18:12:14 Feb 22 2008
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I remember reading somewhere that :w: doesn't do live shows...



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A-23 would be kick-ass! Hocico, Das Ich. Seabound as well... I'm going to see them in Philly on march 12.

And since some people are throwing out metal bands...
Soilwork, Disarmonia Mundi, Sonata Arctica, Mercenary, Lamd Of God, God Forbid...



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Yes, supposedly Wumpscut won't ever do a live show. But I can always hope, right? Besides, it's not a huge commitment of time or energy to do one single show while relaxing in the Caribbean. Am I right, or am I right, or am I right? Right?



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Yes,

You are right!



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Here's an idea for ya... I do some marketing work for "Livenation" and personally know alot of the bands listed here (Mostly Metal) as well as many people & promoters in the biz so whoever is in charge of booking the bands, let me know if you wanna make something happen for next year...



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Revolution By Night
Modulate
VAC



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oooh VAC would be nice :)



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I third the vote on VAC =D



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V! A! C!

V! A! C!

V! A! C!



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and one...
i would kill to hear military fashion show live...

or duran duran LOL i totally just dateded myself..but they are touring!
cruxshadows are great live..

what about voltaire?



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I am in charge of booking the bands. My email: info@allgenretravel.com

Please feel free to email me.



I see V A C has quite a few bids..



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If there is going to be a second band to warm up we just saw Life Crisis warm up for And One and they were amazing.



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V.A.C. would be interesting. I thought I heard he is now a vegan tee-totaler, though. Assuming the 2009 cruise is all-inclusive, I'm not sure if he'd be interested.

Then again, not all people that abstain need to be around people of the same persuasion. I don't think I'd necessarily want to be around a bunch of alcohol, though, if I didn't drink. Then again, I guess they do have those A.A. meetings on board...

Oh, Nitzer Ebb would be a nice choice. Or Orange Sector, that would be cool. Wumpscut and Suicide Commando still my top choices, but I realize those are not likely. Supposedly, Johan (of SC) is afraid of flying, so I doubt he'd be interested in flying to the U.S. and then staying on a ship for a week.

Whitehouse would be funny. Someone mentioned Voltaire, I think that would be a great choice! Fixmer & McCarthy would also be very cool.



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Christian and I talked about how we'll probably be too poor to do the goth cruise again in 2009 unless Suicide Commando is playing but the chance of that is slim cose supposedly Johan Van Roy has a fear of flying.



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but its a boat trip. and why can't rammstein use pryotechincs on a ship huh? they could always preform on deck.



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ooh ooh what about Agonoiz?



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This is a Goth cruise. A lot of the bands mentioned thus far are not Goth.

Goth is a dwindling genre. The next closest musical genre would be synthpop. A lot of the bands mentioned are industrial or noise.

Goth / Synthpop suggestions:

And One
Cruxshadows
Rottersand
Icon of Coil

And One is currently tourning and already planning another tour later this fall. They jumped off of a tour with VNV Nation last year when they realized more people were coming to see them than VNV.

Cruxshadows would be great, but may be difficult to sign. They have said they may not tour again. Their last tour was about a year ago.

A-23 has been mentioned numerous times. I like their music and I've seen them live - but they don't do a very good live show. Most of it is pre-sampled.



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Combichrist is pretty much Industrial...
I think the whole scene is dying...
In New York the great clubs are long gone. Little bars are trying to hold their own. I think Goth/synth/Industrial/Noise are all intertwined. Are there any real Goth bands that would draw a crowd anymore? Christian Death is long gone. I think music today is a mix of each in their own way. My Rammstein request is a wet dream in a selfish way;) When I looked at the crowd from the last cruise it was an equal mix from all the corners of our scene. I pray for a band that will draw a crowd to keep this wonderful experience going. Quoted from a awsome personfrom our last night.... "We are a clan".... Ronan Harris. I hope Combichrist is great... VNV will be very difficult to upstage.
(If there are any misspellings for this post I was drunk:P )



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Also said, were these fitting words " We have come here to wear black and party". And that we did. And will again to all the music in our diverse scene.



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for those that dont know of the band.. I would recommend researching Blutengel.



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Blutengel has my vote!



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I enjoy their music as well!



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There are still goth bands around. Blutengel is a great example. Cruxshadows has moved a little bit off of goth, but they're still considered goth.

Christian Death is more gothic rock. Different decade and genre.

Goth is diminishing as a musical genre. It's why I said synthpop is the closest genre to goth. Next I would say comes EMB, then electroclash, then industrial, then noise.

Most goths have embraced synthpop bands like Wolfshiem, And One, VNV Nation (They're synthpop, not future pop), Icon of Coil, Stromkern, Covenant (they're a little closer to EBM), Beborn Beton, Rotersand, Ladytron, et al.

Industrial and Noise are DIFFERENT. I'm not saying there isn't cross over, there is. But you can't call them goth.



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Cruxshadows would be the biggest mistake ever!!! If you know Rogue,then you know what I'm talking about.



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That's from personal experiences,but that's just my 2 cents.I still listen to their music and I still enjoy them as a band.



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your right, you would never see him.



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I'll prob got shot down for this one as they are a better studio band but System Syn? I kind of really got into their music after they opened for VNV. During their performance I was just sorta anxious from VNV but all three of their albums are REALLY good and they seem like they'd be loads of fun to have onboard :)



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No rub from me Mama C I thought they were great as well!



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Blutengel is interested in playing.. but it would drive the cost of the cruise way up, as they want their airfare covered from Germany.. which is about 1000.00 a person. - and they have 10 people to travel.

So I am not so sure they are realistic. If I were to consider Blutengel, which really I am as they are just awesome performers, It would have to be a cruise with a 2 year booking window so that people can make payments and save. The cost of 1 cruise ticket would jump from 1100 to about 1500 (all inclusive of course).



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First and foremost is the clubbing onboard and the people. The band is secondary but definately a plus. $400.00 extra for a concert is a bit steep. Not definately out of the question but steep. I like them but not that big of a fan.



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I'm a bit confused. $400.00 x 200 people is $80,000.00
The additional airfare you spoke about even if it was 1,000.00 each way would be $20,000.00. Yes?



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Ouch...

That is a $200 concert ticket. Not sure if I would follow through on that expense.

I like their music, but the extra $400 is needed for other stuff.

I am sure that you would keep your/our options open.



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Well, the 10K in airfare, is in addition to their normal band fee, plus the equipment rental.

Im waiting to hear back from their booking agent to see if this is "neg".



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I would have to say to try different avenues.There are ALOT of wonderful bands even here in the States that would be alot less expensive.I don't think it would be worth it.



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Agreed. I think even if you got some relative unknowns from the U.S. it would be worth it to keep the cruise prices down. Either that, or remove the all-inclusive and get a big band that will cost more.

My personal opinion is that even this year's prices are pushing it. And I don't mean that negatively, I simply mean that I am not sure how many people are willing to pay more than this year.

Maybe foreign bands can be persuaded to get their own transportation for the cruise? I know they are also running a business, but maybe some might be interested, as this is a unique experience.



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All inclusive is my reason for joining this cruise... Saves Patti and I $$$$.. Payin more for a band and then getting a $1200 liqour bill is not in the cards for me. I was able to recruit people for this cruise just because of the open bar policy. I'd rather take an up and coming band than pay that much extra. Most important element of all is the DJ. DJ Steve was incredible last cruise so ya got your hands full Evil;) But I can't wait to hear ya spin! Dancin under the stars!!!
Woo Hoo!!!!!



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What no confidence? JK. I am going to so rock your dancing "boots" off!!! :)



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How about a little "Stompy"



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I have some stompy for us all:

http://www.kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=1170&NE



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That is classic. I do not think I can think of Laibach the same. Thanks



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Clan Of Xymox
Hocico
The Electric Hellfire Club
Bauhaus



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Any band that has Peter Murphy

Bauhaus
Love N Rockets
Peter Murphy solo

He's awesome any-way



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OOH! I second Xymox !!
yum



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okay... well we had to re-create our name... but we are back....::cheers::

I would love to see And One, Assemblage 23, Seabound, HIM, AFI, The Birthday Massacre,


Tony would like.. ((sorry if I spell this wrong)) 'Hoccio Z's band the blue something, Apoptygma Berzerk, The Birthday Massacre,Assemblage 23, Clan Of Xymox



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Blutengel?



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::laughs:: yep that would be it!



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Tony also said dont forget covenant



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Here's a "throw it out there" band...

State Of The Union....

Great stage performance and personallity...But I'm partical....lol...

They are world wide and you can't deny the talent... :)



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I really would love to see Assemblage 23!



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Okay, Here is the hubbub on Blutengel. We'd have to wait until our numbers reach about 400 people on a cruise. And that IS doable .

Here is our main problem though - advertising, promotions, and marketing. Unlike the rock-n-roll scene.. gothic and industrial does not have 1 main source where everyone goes to. Each city has its own publications both mainstream and underground. So its impossible to really get the word out on the cruise. Ive been doing it 15 years and have only hit maybe 5% of the scene.

Note.. I have not sent out flyers yet, because at this point.. I dont think Ronan will be DJ'g.. which means I have to change ALL my graphics.



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that is messed up Z!



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Damn Z...

I am sure something will turn around.

Grrr....



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I'll print posters to put at the goth clubs I go to in NY and NJ if that will help any.



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Alien Sex Fiend!!! Nik and Mrs. Fiend are touring right now!!! They seem down to earth and cool to party with :P

Clan of Xymox are also touring and seems like a realistic possibility for 2009...

And about Cruxshadows as far as I’m concerned in the goth scene they’re pretty poserish :P I’m just saying.



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Bonnie and Clyde brought it up..... I think its a great idea
She Wants Revenge.... Definately have aJoy division sound. Great to dance to. Up and Coming. They also keep in touch with their fans and seem down to earth.
What do you guys think?



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I know I broght this up before...

THE ULTIMATE LINE UP!!!!
one Tour, One cruise!

(cater to all the scenes. one of everything)

Bauhaus -oldschool

Clan Of Xtymox -moody/"classic goth"s"

Hocico (mexico) -Idustrial/ hardcore fans

I think this is a cool line-up. Bauhaus played Coachella festival 1 or 2 years ago and they may bought for another again.
Xymox doesn't play the u.s. states, so having them on the cruise would be awesome.
& Hocico, their sound, energy, and stage show speaks for itself....

As a line up, I think it's an ultimate Line-Up.
I would be there in a heart beat, an so would many of my friends....

P.S. as for The Electric Hellfire Club, would love to see them play, but only if they play from their "Burn Baby Burn" or "Satans Little Helpers" albums, They were the best.... sweet

aNYWAY, i THINK IT'S A GREAT LINE-UP.



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Covenant

Rotersand



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OK this is an old thread I know... but hey... I'm a little late anyway.

So here is a suggestion for one "hell" of a live band:

Genitorturers

{Please dont flame me because they are more metal than "goth"... I know that. Its the BDSM aspect that would make me even suggest they would remotely fit within the range/domain of the genre}

Iv'e seen em 3 times, and they get freakier every single time I see them. In fact I think they left me with psychological scars...

The Disney cruise line would be perfect for them... heh heh heh

Otherwise my top suggestions (already suggested - and other than of course Rammstein) would be KMFDM & Velvet Acid Christ.



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When I think of Laibach or stompy, I never conceived of stomping kittens. Thanks for that odd imagery.



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The Genitorturer's violate way to many Carnival rules and policies. given it has taken over 15 years for the Gothic Cruise to be accepted by a few of the major cruise lines, im not willing to jeopardize our standing. Perhaps when our numbers reach the thousand mark for people attending, I will be able to book a full ship charter (in which we are the only group onboard) and pull in more intense groups.

The Gothic Cruise will never step foot on a Disney ship. They will not give us the space we need, and will not allow concerts onboard. disney ships do NOT have Casino's and they have EXTREMELY limited adults only areas. Everyone would have a miserable time on a Disney ship AS part of the gothic cruise.



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Awww... and there goes my Minnie Mouse and a ball gag imagery...

As long as you know I was being more facetious than realistic there Z.... Hell Gen and her troupe have violated way too many of 'my' rules and policies!

Anyway Combichrist and an open bar is a dream cruise for me!

Tick tock... is it October yet?



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Don't get me wrong. I like the Genitorturer's. They are just not appropriate for the Gothic Cruise given the cruise lines policies.



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Lets just throw out a crazy reply!

My 5 - The Cruxshadows - Dresden Dolls - God Module - Type O Negative - Cradle Of Filth



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I love Assemblage 23, but they aren't all that wonderful live (I don't think).

Saw them earlier and it just didn't do it for me.



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Disney?

20 years in Florida, and all I can say is DEATH TO THE RAT!

Now back to our regularly schedule rant...



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I would like my frends in the band Down For Five they rock and kick ass



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Imperative Reaction and SITD especially since we'll be missing them while we're on the cruise this year womp womp...



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Actually I do have a couple cruise-band suggestions in all seriousness of thinking about broad range marketability (e.g. significantly more mainstream to pack a boat but certainly within the modern "goth" genre definition)

Evanescense (probably too big a name for a cruise line to handle however)

Lacuna Coil - ( mmm...Christina Scabbia... *sigh* )

Of course I will throw KMFDM up on the post again just to round this post out to an even 3.

Lucia, Christina, and Amy... oh my



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I second Evanescense (oi spelling) and KMFDM! Although it's not the same anymore without the original members hehe...



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Yeah I always mess up the spelling too. But then again I can mess up ACDC when Im thinking about perdy eyes and music that hits the core of the heart casing... :-)

(not that Angus Young does that to me...)

Evanescence



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its not that Evanescense or Lacuna Coil are to big for a cruise ship to handle. In all honesty, they've handled bigger.

Its the sheer cost of hiring those bands. IT would drive the cost of the tickets up quite a bit. With a group over 300 cabins, Carnival wont let us have the all inclusive feature either. So a cruise ticket for the inside cabin would be about 1,000 a peice and not be all inclusive.


All Genre is looking at a few mainstream bands for a new cruise. We are looking at timing it so that it can be booked 2 years in advance so everyone who wants to go can pay it off over time. I will keep you posted on that!

Z



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