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Because of my position I can't say much here, but I can say I agree with you.

Wow... I'm truly sorry you feel that way Fancy. My church is a cult... not meant to mock anyone. The page that was removed from my coven after your complaint was an explanation of that. It's unfortunate that I or my friends (followers) have offended you. So much so that I even got my own Journal entry. I'm sure you will delete this. Btw.. I do believe in God.. I do not believe a pastor, priest, or pope needs to tell me HOW to believe however.



Over the centuries, billions of people have fallen prey to religion run amok. How many Jews and Gypsies suffered in Nazi concentration camps while churches in Germany turned their heads? How many people were murdered in the Crusades during the middle ages–in the name of God?



Organized religion, no matter what form, should be questioned, held to a higher standard. I DO NOT hold myself higher than any God, I DO NOT believe myself higher or more supreme to any man or God. I am just me and because people like me I can feel your jealousy and I am sorry for the pain I have obviously caused you.

Well sorry fancy, no one in the church was trying to be god like juny said its a cult thing. Its's a place where juny was trying to make so that no one felt judged or hurt, to feel loved and such. The church part if it was more of a theme sorta :/

MEH... this just goes to show Humor is a MYTH to some. i don't remember Juny applying for the "I'm a God Card " at the Vatican. So... my guess is... she probably....maybe...more than likely... more or less... if ever so slightly.... May have been Joking.



I mean I'm no expert on the Matter of sarcasm and Joking...but... Its an idea you may wish to indulge and study into. ::shrugs:: God knows you won't. No pun Intended.

hey i'm not even christian. i'm jewish. i just love juny as her friend and think the mentorship has helped me in many ways. shes a great teacher.

It's a matter of opinion and personal feelings. You can spout off all of your reasons Juny but it doesn't change the fact the it's offensive to some people.

Then tell me its offensive to you. Have an ADULT dialogue and discussion. There are a great deal of things on the Rave that offend me, but they are another persons perspective and opinion and I respect that.



Venting publically has never done me any good, so I can appreciate that the subject was raised here, Fancy's opinion, and mine and those of others, yours included Juliah...



I wanted to make mostly clear that the INTENT of the church was NOT to mock. That the accusation that I see myself or declare myself to be above God, is incorrect.



Differences of opinion happen every day... we make them, we move on.



Moving on~~~~~

And we continue to complain no matter who is right, wrong or indifferent.

Wow... I don;t think she meant it to be offensive.

i will leave my last comment on this. simply put, its a matter of squares and beat nicks. :) and we all know the two live on this earth. its all a matter of politics. :) yup.

LadyK,



I don't believe that this people calling others out, it's a matter of opinion. Sure it could be considered offensive, but as many other pointed out in here she could be joking, or as the page that previously existed in my coven (that Juny herself put up) showed how cults recruited, how they function, etc. etc. I don't believe it was a mochery of any type of person or being; she wasn't stating she was God, or anything higher than any said person / being.



If this were controversial, then why isn't it whenever someone claims to be "higher" than their peers, on this website ot anywhere else? I don't quite follow the initial complaint, and it's my opinon.

Only Christians have the right to find something offensive?



Yours is not the only belief, and other people have the right to express whatever belief they hold.



I am an atheist, and I find much about Christianity highly offensive.



But I accept that is YOUR RIGHT to believe such a thing...You don't see me trying to shut people down...or call them idiotic for it.



If you want respect for your beliefs, try giving it as well.

EVEN WHEN YOU DISAGREE.

I can't begin to tell you How Happy I am that I DO offend you, as your Religion Is a Butchery of Mine. your Religion has Mocked, ridiculed and Killed My People, Because we Believe that there is many gods and None are all powerful. your religion cannot even come up with it's own Holidays. So keep on going about How I offend you, you have now Idea How warm and fuzzy it makes me feel.

When I practice my religion, I post it in my journal. People don't have to read it if they don't want to. You all chose to read this. I did not force you to. It's not out in plain site where I would intentionally offend anyone. I do not have anything against different religions, nor do I criticize anyone who practices a different religion. What offends me is when people have a church saying "all hale so and so". If it's another god, that is the same as me believe in my god. But if it's a human person, it's ridiculous. So, you all who are friends with Juny can think I'm such a bitch and yadda yadda, but I stand by my beliefs, just as she does. I have no tolerance nor respect for someone who holds themselves higher than a religion. And that's just what she's doing by making a church dedicate to "the all mighty Juny" *rolls eyes*