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To humans there have been many myths in history that have never been fully confirmed. Some such as dragons and animals believed not to exist. One being a lycan or to most a werewolf. .This is one animal or beast is often perceived to be nothing but a myth just a figment of our imagination. Just as many thought vampires do not exist when there is true ones out there but with different features form what mankind have manifested in our head. . But I have done some research strung info together and would like to share what I have found.

First let me start off with sharing two definitions that I have found: In folklore, the magical ability to assume the form and characteristics of a wolf.
A delusion that one has become or assumed the characteristics of a wolf or other animal.

There have been earlier humans that would set up altars and honor such beast in hopes of becoming one themselves. Some of these altars dated back early as 75,000 BC were they would honor the wolf and use actual wolf skins to hunt in thinking and acting as a wolf. Some earlier philosophers such as Plato have discussed these transformations. Giving it the term lycanthropy using the Greek prefix lukos which means wolf and anthropos meaning man.


The term that “wer” that means man has been associated with other animals aswell. Some such as were bear ore werecheatah. Were accounts these beast would be men transforming into animals. Many cultures have honored such creatures some being Viking berserkers and Sioux Indians believed whenever they wore a certain animals skin it would give them the qualities of the creature.

There have been trials in medieval Europe over cases were a person would be brutally murdered by a large beast. Witneses of the crime would say that they saw the creatures turning back into a human form. But in the cases were they would bring people in to stand trial they were dismissed with lack of evidence. With so many reports some being hoaxes and some true how can we truly tell whether this creature is real or just a man made myth.

I would like to hear some of your views on this If you would like to do some research and share feel free to. One question to go with my last statement do you think they exist?




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ooowwww nice reading :)

mmm don't know if they excist...........



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a lycanthrope or lycan as i have come to know thenm are people who have mearly merged there souls with the soul of a animal of there choseing. it takes years of meditation and rituals. the end result is the person takes on the energys of the animal. he/she will growl if threatened and so on. they dont shapeshift in the sence we belive them to, but there energys do. and it donst have to be a wolf it can be a cat or a swan or even a snake. deppends on your animal to call. i have two a wolf and a panther.



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INFO: on lycans


Order I: What is the word lycan mean?
Order II: What is otherkin?
Order III: What does a lycan entail?
Order IV: What are Totem Spirits
Order V: What are the four types of shifting
Order VI: The Awakening of Lycans
Order VII: Manifestation of Lycans
Order VIII: How do Zoans communicate with the host
Order IX: Furries Vs Weres
Order X: A little bit of Demonology

Foreword:
I shall refer to the subjects with in this text as "Lycanthropes, Lycans, Werewolves" But I also mean to say Otherkin at the same time, this saves on length of this text. Thank you for understanding this.

Order I:
The word, Lycan, Derived from Lycos, meaning wolf. Anthrope, Meaning of man,man, human. Together these words are said to be Wolfman or werewolf. Zoanthropes Zoan meaning of all animals and anthrope, Were Animals. Another word you should know of is Therianthropy. Therianthropy is basically another way of saying Zoanthropy

Order II:
Otherkin. This word describes the rest of the Zoanthropic community. In this sense, If you are a werewolf, a Were cat, for example would be otherkin. Otherkin in the big picture means "Other family" since animals are all one big happy order.

Order III:
A Lycan or Zoan is a human body that is a symbiotic host to other animal spirits/demons that inhabit the body for an unique purpose. Most spirits are guides to the host and help the spirit barrier make the proper decisions in his/her life on the journey that they so choose to take. A lycan can possess spiritual energy enhancement with in the aura and biorhythm of the human soul. Bonding is much more powerful, enhanced, and more swift than a normal human.

The senses of a zoan also may be adequately augmented a bit. And sensory perception will be quite powerful at times. Moon phases may cause the spirit(s) to manifest themselves in different augmented behaviors.

Order IV:
Totem spirits are mostly of the belief of the Indians of north America. There are other origins of this type of manifestation dealing with spiritual entities living with in a human host. The totem spirit is assigned to a person at birth and will teach and guide that subject until their corruption or death.

These spirits are very gentle and wise, they do not cause burdens or curses as some people would say. They are there to watch over you and protect you. Aggressive dominant spirits may be harder to control in the urges and must be worked with immediately after awakening (See below).

Order V:
The four types of shifting. Shifting is a complicated matter. Some are real some are false in my opinion. They are: Mental Shift, Physical Shift, Spirit Shift, Planal Shift.

Mental: One who mentally shifts experiences a transformation of the body into animal body parts growing out the regular human body parts. This can only be seen and felt by the Zoan that is experiencing this. Mental shifts can be mild to extremely intense, possibly covering the whole body.

Physical: This is where I draw the line between reality and falsity. You may believe what you wish but I do not believe in this power. A physical shifter is one who can change their bodies into another species of animal.

Spiritual: This is where an animal spirit changes a human host into an Therianthrope (see Order I). Spirit shifters are the most common of the 4 and the most realistic and closest form of being a Zoanthrope.

Planal: This refers to one who has been able to shift into an animal or other being with in the Astral Plane or other planes for that matter. In dream states of meditative out of body states the subject can travel into a plane and shift and be free of their human bodies.

Order VI:
Awakenings are very special times, almost like birth days of the spirit itself. Animal Spirits awaken at a young age about the same time puberty happens. The spirit finds that you are mature to begin guidance and comes into play. If for some reason you aren't ready the spirit will wait until you are. This is rare but happens. Some don't awaken until they are 30 years of age.

When you awaken you are most likely to understand this in four concepts. Meditative Vision, Dream, Occurrences, and occurrences. You can have a vision of a wolf or such trying to lead you to a destination. Or a dream about wolves and a wolf pack and some other instance of freedom. or or you can have an occurrence of a wolf in nature in real life come and show you its friendship or even see the spirit itself with out dream or vision. and you may have deeply thought revelations of who you really are. Sometimes there is a mixture of the four.

Order VII:
Lycanthropes, among otherkin in general manifest themselves. There are many different ways that I have known Lycans to be.

a. Visionaries
b. Alphas
c. Subordinates
d. Furries (a mixture of were and the furry fandom)
e. Loners
f. Witness's
g. Abominations
h. Polyshift
i. Guardians
j. Corrupted

To explain in detail:

A. Visionaries:
A visionary is one who sets out on a quest to better the lycan kind. They have a mission of a specific task or tasks. They are most likely leaders maybe even Alphas or Lonewolves, and/or Elders.

B. Alphas:
An Alpha is the highest ranking wolf in an organized pack. These are true leaders and should be held with great respect. An Alpha has an important role in the community, gathering pack members into organizations to perform tasks with in the community by leading them properly and teaching his/her pack disciples the correct ways of the wolf and the pack. This structure keeps the community on its toes moving to the rhythm of the Lycan day and night.

C. Subordinates:
These are those who follow the alpha or betas with in the pack. They are the citizens of the city and help get things done in the pack and give the pack the reason for its existence. subordinates shall not be treated wrongly they are loyal and well loved as well as any other rank in the pack. These include Subordinates in general, and Omegas. Omegas are those in the pack that keep it stable, with love and playfulness, most are pups that seek maturity and are there with a purpose of giving the pack new spirit and new blood.

D. Furries:
Furries are usually (not always) people who enjoy Animal shift so much that they play it on the internet, stories artwork, and in real life with fur costumes. These people have a life style of the sort and are happy go lucky people. some furries are were's some aren't, In my expeditions I have found most of them aren't they just like to hang out that way.

E. Loners:
Loners (like lonewolves) are those who take no heading to the community and/or packs. They are on there own to find themselves and their ways. Loners can one day join the pack and become an alpha, or they can continue to be submissive. A loner is a special breed all to their own. The psychological makeup is different normally, than most lycans.

F. Witnesses:
These are those who are hidden behind the scenes posing or being another role with in these roles. (Mind you, that anyone in these roles can be more than one manifestation). A witness will see what happens with in the community and will learn the secrets of the good, the bad, and the ugly.

They will witness the coming events of good fortune for our kind or the horrible corrupted slaughter of our kindred. They see every moving moment weather it be bad or good. They see and feel things most don't understand. If you happen to meet one of these, be kind or face their Wrath for these are filled with emotions beyond any others.

G: Abominations:
These are very controversial were's. They have the ability to be both Werewolf and Vampire at the same time. They are polyshift in a way only the other is a demon/spirit of a vampiric nature. These aren't necessarily more powerful but they have the ability to take energy from other sources and feed on it better than lycans can. But that is also a weakness. All creatures are balanced, so are abominations.

H. Polyshift:
A polyshift is a multiple spirit inhabited human host. This person may have a wolf, a hyena, a whale, whatever it may may be. It isn't uncommon to have multiple spirits. But some say there are deities that watch over them that can be confused as spirits with in the body. So be careful.

I: Guardians:
Guardians are those who feel they are defending the earth against evil corrupted individuals both otherkin or human. Guardians must be especially careful how they act against or for any other creature on this planet. They are here to protect their kin from any uprisings that may be obstacles to the movement of the Were communities. Good judgment and guidance of the heart, will bring good quests to save us from those who wish to hurt us to an end.

J: Corrupted:
Those are disdained for being in this category beware. These are the unjust wrongful people of the lycan community they seek with malice to hurt the community or hurt other individuals that are only trying to understand themselves. They have gave up their spirits to being tainted. trapping the spirit inside the fowl body until it finally dies. These should be kept away from the community at all costs banned from the society of otherkin. They act with hate and malice instead of acceptance and love. After all these years of pain and torture to our wolven brothers in the wilderness the wolf has never hated man kind, only have been protective against those who hunt them. Hate is NOT an emotion of animals. Out of all the time I ever felt an aura of an animal I have never felt hate even when they are abused by owners.

Order VIII:
There is a metaphysical / paraphysical process that this works with. There are 3 components, the Flesh (mind included) The Soul and Spirit, and the Biorhythm and Aura of the human body. The spirit sends its signals into the aura, which then is converted by the Biorhythm with in the body into a form of energy that can be interpreted by the brain by E.S.P. (Extra Sensory Perception) Signaling. This is known as a M.S.C.P. (Metaphysical Signaling Conversion Process). Once this signal is handed down from the spirit to the brain. It is interpreted as thoughts with in the mind, or dreams, or visions. The thoughts are not like schizophrenia type voices. They are simple revelational thoughts that inspire you into the right path of life. They will also teach you as well. Most elder Lycans will learn a great deal from this method and become wise faster than the human host could ever get.

Order IX:
On the topic again about Furries and Weres. Most furries are not all Otherkin, a lot have the spirit but Furry fandom is not a spiritual belief it is a lifestyle. Furries can be anything in belief maybe no belief at all.

Order X:
Demonology is a touchy subject. Those who have demons inside them are very defined. For example, one who is an abomination could have both spirits entwined into one. Forming a demon entity. Demons are higher level muninal spirits that are made up of smaller ancient spirits rolled up into one higher level spirit. Munin is a term for ancient spirits acting as a collective to form a similar task. Demons manifest them selves as many things, very little is known about them. A lot of religious beliefs claim they know demons in specifics I'm not sure about any of these claims, that is out of the scope of our lexicon. Just remember what a demon is composed of and how it works with multiple spirits with in a body.



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Epitaph
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Lothrin I haven't seen it from that point of view. But I kind of see where you are coming from. Possibly a spirit guide or something of the sorts.

Ryu I like how you put it into context. Sharing how they live in a society like ours.



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i have my doubts as to whether i believe in them to be honest but it was interesting to read though



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lothrin
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that was intresting but complecated. no affence. but i gess once you are one its much more simple. i agree pysical shifting not very belive able.



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just trying to enlighten hope it helps



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lothrin
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it did thanks for the info



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Epitaph
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Another aspect of lyanthropy is that many believe it is a mental disease. A lot of psychologist have ran studies on people that claim they are one.
Robert Burton in his Anatomy of Melancholy (1621) and the aforementioned Reginald Scott both wrote lengthy discussions of lycanthropy as a non-demonic form of madness or disease, but it was the writings of Johann Weyer that were the real turning point in ending the witch trials. Weyer, regarded by many as the father of modern psychiatry, argued that most so-called witches (and werewolves) were the result of psychological and medical conditions rather than sorcery. He probably would have been tried as a witch himself had he not had friends in high places such as the King of France. Weyer protested that people would "confess many things ... which are just fables, trifles, lies, which are not and never were, nor could be according to the nature of things" under torture.
Sigmund Freud considered Weyer's writings among the 10 most significant ever published and greatly influenced his own lycanthropic "wolf man" paper of 1914. To this day, studies of lycanthropy appear in psychiatric journals, often as a specific manifestation of paranoid schizophrenia. Jungian psychology emphasized the totemic strength brought about with animal identification, as described earlier with primitive cultures.



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i heard there is some kind of mental disorder where the person thinks he/she is a wolfe.



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nice I know of more but that I will leave for another time



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http://members.tripod.com/alam25/

I like very much this site.

I've also met some people who believe that a werewolf in reality is a man who is stronger and more savaget han the average.But that would be just their belief!



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Real or not, I've been thought only one thing about them...

Lycan = BAD


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we aren't bad..just intimidating to those who cannot deal with someone who is brutallyhonest...im obsessed with wolves...in my freams,in my home,i believe in certain aspects of shapeshifting...i believe when i get to that point of rage and desperation my spiritwolf takes over my mentality and slightly alters facial pose and demeanor.
it's like a welcomed possession.all i want to do when im in that state of mind if see blood and dominate everyone,or everything in my way. i am a wolf...in spirit. when im done "wolfing out" all I want is a bloody staek...i mean barely even warmed...and sex.people that know me(they're very few);ove me because i pull no punches and i speak my mind.when a wolf wants...he takes.he gets,he survives.and so..yes...i believe.we are not "bad" we just don't take any shit..EVER.
GOOD THREAD...GOT MY BLOODPUMPIN



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Sure?!!? ok then I guess no reason for my lychantrophobia, *stretching my hand - eyes closed* "please don't bite me!"... - jokes apart, I guess then we'll get along fine then... :>



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Yendor: being prejudiced is NOT a good thing.



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hehe.. I'm not precjudiced (Am I, hope not! oO ) not really promise =)



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Well.. I was just going to post "Ask Lucios, he's a lycan" but I see he already found this thread. So I'll just.. agree with everything he's said up there. I've lived with him long enough to completely understand his "wolfing out".. lol.

Further proof that vamps and lycans can live together in harmony. Well.. almost harmony. hehe



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hehe! good boy! :P



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the "orders"that were posted cannot be taken with any kind of seriousness...you took them from a game...playing a wolf and being one are 2 different ideas..one is for entertainment and the other is a way of life...a predisposed mannerism if you will...it's in the blood so to speak.one more thing that i love about wolves....where as vampires cannot feed on dead blood....we(wolves)can
here's howling at you kids



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Great thread.
I went looking, and I found something interesting I would like to share wit you:

"The Wolf Boy of Kronstadt
This is an extract from Wolf Children and Feral Man by Singh and Zingg.

Here you have information about the wild boy who was found a few years ago in the Siebenburgen-Wallachischen border [Romania] and was brought to Kronstadt [now Brasov], where in 1784 he is still alive. How the poor boy was saved from the forests... I cannot tell. However one must preserve the facts, as they are, in the sad gallery of pictures of this kind.
This unfortunate youth was of the male sex and was of medium size. He had an extremely wild glance. His eyes lay deep in his head, and rolled around in a wild fashion. His forehead was strangely bent inwards, and his hair of ash-gray color grew out short and rough. He had heavy brown eyebrows, which projected out far over his eyes, and a small flat-pressed nose. His neck appeared puffy, and at the windpipe he appeared goitrous. His mouth stood somewhat out when he held it half open as he generally did since he breathed through his mouth. His tongue was almost motionless, and his cheeks appeared more hollow than full, and, like his face, were covered with a dirty yellowish skin. On the first glance at this face, from which a wildness and a sort of animal-being shone forth, one felt that it belonged to no rational creature... The other parts of the wild boy's body, especially the back an the chest were very hairy; the muscles on his arms and legs were stronger and more visible than on ordinary people. The hands were marked with callouses (which supposedly were caused by different uses), and the skin of the hands was dirty yellow and thick throughout, as his face was. On the finger he had very long nails; and on the elbows and knees, he had knobby hardenings. The toes were longer than ordinary. He walked erect, but a little heavily. It seemed as if he would throw himself from one foot to the other. He carried his head and chest forward... He walked bare-footed and did not like shoes on his feet. He was completely lacking in speech, even in the slightest articulations of sounds. The sounds which he uttered were ununderstandable murmuring, which he would give when his guard drove him ahead of him. This murmuring was increased to a howling when he saw woods or even a tree. He seemed to express the wish for his accustomed abode; for once when he was in my room from which a mountain could be seen, the sight of the trees caused him to howl wretchedly... "

http://www.feralchildren.com/en/showchild.php?ch=kronstadt



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*bump*

Vampires, Lycans, and Zombies

Oh my!

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Lucious thanks for your input from a actual lycans point of view. Far as lycans and vampires coexisting that might be another subject but it can happen. But I might be wrong but what you speak of is it more of a bloodlust like a savage rage that burns inside you that makes you that way. If so wouldn't every human being have that rage and form of savageness.
*not sure if I worded it right I hope you get what I mean*



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Since Lucios can't answer, he's been suspended again for "wolfing out", I'll answer on his behalf...

Yes, all humans have that animal instinct, but most choose to ignore it, or call it "evil". Also, not every human has it to that extreme either. Not everyone can be an Alpha male. (Or female).



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lycans are very real, but no threat to a true vampire



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if vampire exist why lican not exist ????



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to onetruevamp1,
id have to disagree with you. lycans are not bound by the restricyions of the sun's light.whereas a vampire is. lycans have a heightened sense of smell as well...and cathing the scent of death in the air is quite an easy task for a lycan. i think they both deserve the respect



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and the feaqr the command



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*and the fear that they command...gaffam typo's



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I don't know if I truely believe in the sence of the hollywood version. But I do believe that you could share a soul with an animal. I haven't done alot of research on the subject, but I will now. Because now I am interested in the subject.



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