To humans there have been many myths in history that have never been fully confirmed. Some such as dragons and animals believed not to exist. One being a lycan or to most a werewolf. .This is one animal or beast is often perceived to be nothing but a myth just a figment of our imagination. Just as many thought vampires do not exist when there is true ones out there but with different features form what mankind have manifested in our head. . But I have done some research strung info together and would like to share what I have found.
First let me start off with sharing two definitions that I have found: In folklore, the magical ability to assume the form and characteristics of a wolf.
A delusion that one has become or assumed the characteristics of a wolf or other animal.
There have been earlier humans that would set up altars and honor such beast in hopes of becoming one themselves. Some of these altars dated back early as 75,000 BC were they would honor the wolf and use actual wolf skins to hunt in thinking and acting as a wolf. Some earlier philosophers such as Plato have discussed these transformations. Giving it the term lycanthropy using the Greek prefix lukos which means wolf and anthropos meaning man.
The term that “wer” that means man has been associated with other animals aswell. Some such as were bear ore werecheatah. Were accounts these beast would be men transforming into animals. Many cultures have honored such creatures some being Viking berserkers and Sioux Indians believed whenever they wore a certain animals skin it would give them the qualities of the creature.
There have been trials in medieval Europe over cases were a person would be brutally murdered by a large beast. Witneses of the crime would say that they saw the creatures turning back into a human form. But in the cases were they would bring people in to stand trial they were dismissed with lack of evidence. With so many reports some being hoaxes and some true how can we truly tell whether this creature is real or just a man made myth.
I would like to hear some of your views on this If you would like to do some research and share feel free to. One question to go with my last statement do you think they exist?
ooowwww nice reading :)
mmm don't know if they excist...........
a lycanthrope or lycan as i have come to know thenm are people who have mearly merged there souls with the soul of a animal of there choseing. it takes years of meditation and rituals. the end result is the person takes on the energys of the animal. he/she will growl if threatened and so on. they dont shapeshift in the sence we belive them to, but there energys do. and it donst have to be a wolf it can be a cat or a swan or even a snake. deppends on your animal to call. i have two a wolf and a panther.
Lothrin I haven't seen it from that point of view. But I kind of see where you are coming from. Possibly a spirit guide or something of the sorts.
Ryu I like how you put it into context. Sharing how they live in a society like ours.
i have my doubts as to whether i believe in them to be honest but it was interesting to read though
that was intresting but complecated. no affence. but i gess once you are one its much more simple. i agree pysical shifting not very belive able.
Another aspect of lyanthropy is that many believe it is a mental disease. A lot of psychologist have ran studies on people that claim they are one.
Robert Burton in his Anatomy of Melancholy (1621) and the aforementioned Reginald Scott both wrote lengthy discussions of lycanthropy as a non-demonic form of madness or disease, but it was the writings of Johann Weyer that were the real turning point in ending the witch trials. Weyer, regarded by many as the father of modern psychiatry, argued that most so-called witches (and werewolves) were the result of psychological and medical conditions rather than sorcery. He probably would have been tried as a witch himself had he not had friends in high places such as the King of France. Weyer protested that people would "confess many things ... which are just fables, trifles, lies, which are not and never were, nor could be according to the nature of things" under torture.
Sigmund Freud considered Weyer's writings among the 10 most significant ever published and greatly influenced his own lycanthropic "wolf man" paper of 1914. To this day, studies of lycanthropy appear in psychiatric journals, often as a specific manifestation of paranoid schizophrenia. Jungian psychology emphasized the totemic strength brought about with animal identification, as described earlier with primitive cultures.
i heard there is some kind of mental disorder where the person thinks he/she is a wolfe.
nice I know of more but that I will leave for another time
http://members.tripod.com/alam25/
I like very much this site.
I've also met some people who believe that a werewolf in reality is a man who is stronger and more savaget han the average.But that would be just their belief!
Real or not, I've been thought only one thing about them...
we aren't bad..just intimidating to those who cannot deal with someone who is brutallyhonest...im obsessed with wolves...in my freams,in my home,i believe in certain aspects of shapeshifting...i believe when i get to that point of rage and desperation my spiritwolf takes over my mentality and slightly alters facial pose and demeanor.
it's like a welcomed possession.all i want to do when im in that state of mind if see blood and dominate everyone,or everything in my way. i am a wolf...in spirit. when im done "wolfing out" all I want is a bloody staek...i mean barely even warmed...and sex.people that know me(they're very few);ove me because i pull no punches and i speak my mind.when a wolf wants...he takes.he gets,he survives.and so..yes...i believe.we are not "bad" we just don't take any shit..EVER.
GOOD THREAD...GOT MY BLOODPUMPIN
Sure?!!? ok then I guess no reason for my lychantrophobia, *stretching my hand - eyes closed* "please don't bite me!"... - jokes apart, I guess then we'll get along fine then... :>
hehe.. I'm not precjudiced (Am I, hope not! oO ) not really promise =)
Well.. I was just going to post "Ask Lucios, he's a lycan" but I see he already found this thread. So I'll just.. agree with everything he's said up there. I've lived with him long enough to completely understand his "wolfing out".. lol.
Further proof that vamps and lycans can live together in harmony. Well.. almost harmony. hehe
the "orders"that were posted cannot be taken with any kind of seriousness...you took them from a game...playing a wolf and being one are 2 different ideas..one is for entertainment and the other is a way of life...a predisposed mannerism if you will...it's in the blood so to speak.one more thing that i love about wolves....where as vampires cannot feed on dead blood....we(wolves)can
here's howling at you kids
Great thread.
I went looking, and I found something interesting I would like to share wit you:
"The Wolf Boy of Kronstadt
This is an extract from Wolf Children and Feral Man by Singh and Zingg.
Here you have information about the wild boy who was found a few years ago in the Siebenburgen-Wallachischen border [Romania] and was brought to Kronstadt [now Brasov], where in 1784 he is still alive. How the poor boy was saved from the forests... I cannot tell. However one must preserve the facts, as they are, in the sad gallery of pictures of this kind.
This unfortunate youth was of the male sex and was of medium size. He had an extremely wild glance. His eyes lay deep in his head, and rolled around in a wild fashion. His forehead was strangely bent inwards, and his hair of ash-gray color grew out short and rough. He had heavy brown eyebrows, which projected out far over his eyes, and a small flat-pressed nose. His neck appeared puffy, and at the windpipe he appeared goitrous. His mouth stood somewhat out when he held it half open as he generally did since he breathed through his mouth. His tongue was almost motionless, and his cheeks appeared more hollow than full, and, like his face, were covered with a dirty yellowish skin. On the first glance at this face, from which a wildness and a sort of animal-being shone forth, one felt that it belonged to no rational creature... The other parts of the wild boy's body, especially the back an the chest were very hairy; the muscles on his arms and legs were stronger and more visible than on ordinary people. The hands were marked with callouses (which supposedly were caused by different uses), and the skin of the hands was dirty yellow and thick throughout, as his face was. On the finger he had very long nails; and on the elbows and knees, he had knobby hardenings. The toes were longer than ordinary. He walked erect, but a little heavily. It seemed as if he would throw himself from one foot to the other. He carried his head and chest forward... He walked bare-footed and did not like shoes on his feet. He was completely lacking in speech, even in the slightest articulations of sounds. The sounds which he uttered were ununderstandable murmuring, which he would give when his guard drove him ahead of him. This murmuring was increased to a howling when he saw woods or even a tree. He seemed to express the wish for his accustomed abode; for once when he was in my room from which a mountain could be seen, the sight of the trees caused him to howl wretchedly... "
http://www.feralchildren.com/en/showchild.php?ch=kronstadt
Lucious thanks for your input from a actual lycans point of view. Far as lycans and vampires coexisting that might be another subject but it can happen. But I might be wrong but what you speak of is it more of a bloodlust like a savage rage that burns inside you that makes you that way. If so wouldn't every human being have that rage and form of savageness.
*not sure if I worded it right I hope you get what I mean*
Since Lucios can't answer, he's been suspended again for "wolfing out", I'll answer on his behalf...
Yes, all humans have that animal instinct, but most choose to ignore it, or call it "evil". Also, not every human has it to that extreme either. Not everyone can be an Alpha male. (Or female).
to onetruevamp1,
id have to disagree with you. lycans are not bound by the restricyions of the sun's light.whereas a vampire is. lycans have a heightened sense of smell as well...and cathing the scent of death in the air is quite an easy task for a lycan. i think they both deserve the respect
I don't know if I truely believe in the sence of the hollywood version. But I do believe that you could share a soul with an animal. I haven't done alot of research on the subject, but I will now. Because now I am interested in the subject.