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In the world now a days people say that if you have a high IQ or get all A's and B's in school growing up then you are smart. But is a aeronautical engineer any smarter than a master mechanic? Or a doctor smarter than a oil field miner? Henry Ford, the founder of Ford Motor Company didn't even finish elementary school and yet he manged to build cars and a company from the ground up. Does that make him dumb or smart? There are also terms being "book" smart and "street" smart, is one smarter than the other? So what makes a Doctor so much smarter then a oil field miner? Is being "smarter" just an illusion to make other superior to one another? Or is it true that one can be smarter then the other person?

Me personally I do not think so. Someone may have greater knowledge in one subject than the other, but that doesn't make them smart. Unless you are Tony Stark and can do anything. What are your takes on it? (By the way this is my first forum) look forward to all of your inputs!!

The next thread is going to be why even bother labeling when we could all be dead and let life cease to be! Wouldn't it by much better then? Everything has a Purpose. Some of us may not agree with the rationale (even if it were to make complete sense) behind things due to our Experience and Knowledge.

My lecturer told me that grades mattered. I couldn't agree more. Having skipped the most of school, I have been on a roller coaster ride when it comes to doing well in school. I have seen the best and the worst of it. Being in a school is something I would rather not have to go through again.

I am and always have been drawn to the academic side of things, even if I was not the cream of the lot back in school. Am I academically stupid then? Perhaps not. But does that make me smarter than the average person? I was told by someone that I am.

You see, that's the wonderful thing about life. It shows us that the academics aren't the end of things. Sure, they may give us the guidance, but in the long-run, we as beings of this Earth get to choose and choose we have and will. There are other factors that contribute to the success of a person. Wealth, determination, character, persistence and patience are just some to name a few.

So yes, the academics isn't the end of the line.

Oh yes, and did I mention Luck...

Application of knowledge. That's the trick:)

There are types of intelligences. For me the intelligence isn't on certaficates, but they are passports for the jobs, so they are important but not everything. I see an intelligent person when they are able to think outside the box, yet not everyone is able to do this, even someone with Degrees.

I agree with supernova, there is no point in knowing something if you aren't going to be able to apply it in life

that's why I think after you get through basic and general math, science, english, and history in school you shouldn't have to take higher levels of it that will have absolutely no use to you after you pass that class, it would be more beneficial taking things that were relevant in life and what ever career you chose

Street smarts and knowing how to get along with people is just as important as book smarts, you need a combination of both to do well in life.

Take the guys from The Big Bang Theory for example, all of them are really smart and have relatively good genes but most of them are socially awkward with women and have bad luck getting any sex, so, with the well being of the human race in mine, how are they supposed to reproduce and make more smart people if they don't have social skills?

I think its what you base intelligence on. Some will base it on a persons IQ. Personally I have known highly "smart" people who dont have the common sense it takes to come in out of the rain.

While not essentially "book smart" many people are well read and have enormous amounts of life experience that gives them an advantage that someone that has a high IQ may not have.

So I think it should be based on a person by person basis.

Yup I agree. A degree doesn't do a damn thing if you don't have people skills. Neither does it do a thing when you're trying to out hustle someone in a game of pool. Or outsmart someone that has a knife to your throat. But like I said before still stands. Application of knowledge. Not necessarily degreed knowledge. But as a whole.Because that is what puts you ahead of the game:)

Certain situations require people to be adapt at what they do to function. You rely on their training and adaptability (smarts). I shows in how well you articulate yourself online. relative etiquette aside.

"Smarter" is a hard thing to categorize, as there are a lot of different types of intelligence and aptitudes that people can possess.

As far as companions go, it seems to me that things like loyalty and honor and integrity are more important.

There are aspects to character, in other words, that are more important and valuable than simply being "smart" at something.

Don't get me wrong, I think intelligence is a good trait to possess, but a serial killer can be pretty damned smart.

And a person with less "native" intelligence" can become smarter than someone with greater innate capacities if the gifted person squanders their gifts through laziness.

It's not only knowledge, but also the ability to organize and make good use of that knowledge, that makes a person smart. You can learn a bunch of facts, but if you cannot think logically, then your knowledge is impaired in practical and truthful application.

is the person who opened the first fast food restaurant any smarter or dumber than the person who helped build the rocket that put the man on the moon?

There are some types of intelligence like that that are also hard to compare because one has much more prestige than the other but they are both very smart ideas that have helped shape America into what it is today.

Book smarts also don't seem to mean much when Bill Gates and Steve Jobs never finished high school but all of us are probably own at least one of their products and are using it now.

They also suggest a 4 year degree in college to make it in today's economy, but what are you using that degree for or getting it in? If you don't need it for the job you want I suggest you save yourself the money.

It took a think thank you put a man on the Moon, it wasn't just one person.

I kinda agree , its a yes and no.IQ dosnt add common sense and being a Good person and doing well by society standards isn't much of a compliments, I believe

dabbler, I said the man who *helped* put the man on the moon, implying that he didn't do it alone

that's also a case where people skills or "street smarts" comes in handy. If you have the brains it takes to work with people on a team then it doesn't matter how smart you are on what you're doing, the team is brought down by your lack of communication with them

Everyone is "smarter" in his own way, I guess...

A doctor would probably look like a dumbass trying to do an oil miner's job and the same the other way around.

I think it's more just different experiences and how people use their brains in different situations. Just because someone has 3 or 4 degrees and has lived a few years long than someone else doesn't necessarily mean they know better...

a person like that would probably get themselves killed if challenged to live in the bayou for a week

people that have lived there their whole lives might not have much for book smarts or money but they have survived the dangerous wild life and terrain, that takes brains too

kurl one could argue that what Bayou people demonstrate is more instinct.

the ability to shoot accurately is instinctive?

what about what happens when you throw a preppy city girl in the woods, how does she not know how to survive instinctively?

K's got a point.... If it was more instinctive then anyone could tap into those instincts and survive. It takes a great deal of skill and training to survive at that kind of level. It's whole different level of "smarts" on that one.

people who have chosen to live in more rugged and dangerous landscapes like the bayou and woods have learned to survive the dangers of them

instincts tell you that bears are dangerous and you should avoid them but you need brains to know that climbing a tree won't protect you from them

In my point of view each and everyone is smarter in one way or another according to their interest . But marks and grades don't make a future and it's not the thing to judge the people only the interest and hardwork make us smarter or superior etc....

A person's intelligence vacillates during their lifetime! So there is a possibility that a person is smarter than another but only for the moment tested! IQ tests do an excellent job of testing your IQ at that particular moment! No one can jump from a 100 to a 200 IQ but relatively speaking most people vacillate around the 90 to 140 range despite education level! A score higher than that is considered genius level but even they tend to operate at the 130 to 140 range most often! Think of IQ as a standard marker of operational intelligence rather than an absolute score!

Peoples brains are individual. Some people are smarter with language. Others with math and science. Some people can take apart and put together things better than others. Some people are musical or artistic. There are different kinds of intelligence. Our world should place equal value in all of them. This is why our higher power created all of our talents.

If we just let everyone be accepted as equal then we discourage people to excel. If everyone made as much as a Surgeon then fewer people would be compelled to train (practice) as Surgeons simply because they can "educate" themselves in some basic skill and still get payed what a Surgeon makes. So unless you're a Communist then I would rethink what you are implying as equality.

Pardon me I meant Socialist, the word communist has lost its verve.

I agree with you dabbler

Prestige is also a factor, college professors get quite a bit of prestige but usually don't get paid well at all.

Truck drivers aren't given very much prestige but get paid pretty well, maybe even better than some college professors.

I think the prestige of a job also factors into how smart people think they are and who's considered smarter than others, though it's not always income related.

most geniuses who have brilliant learning abilities are psychopaths who lack social skills to correctly use their knowledge, now days they would call them artistic

you have a point there

knowledge is useless if you can't teach it to other people and make some sort of improvement in society with it

though artists can convey their feelings and intelligence, it's just through pictures, sculptures, literature, or food