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Strigoi VII or The Black Veil?
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UMBRAxDExVIR
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How many here follow The Black Veil or the path of Strigoi VII? or do any of you even know what they both are now I know some here do this is just my way of finding out who knows what and those that do know what they are how do you feel about them... if you wish me to post what they are say so




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The black viel I know but I do not folow, wellmaybe parts but not all. As to the second, I do not think I have ever heard it before. I folow more of my own beliefs and a general code of ethics. So far thishas worked and I have had no problems with anyone.

Brother if you wish to please message me about the path of Strigoi VII as I would like to know. And if you wish I will tell you more about what I follow.


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yes i have heard of both of them even tough i must say that i much more familiar with the black veil....

thats very interesting i wonder how many people have actually heard of them at all :)



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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18:26:11 Jul 12 2006
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well my brother here is a site for the Strigoi VII

http://www.strigoivii.org/



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Thank you brother and interesting read this site is. Must read more at a later date.

But do not all these things boil down to the golden rule? "Do unto others as you wish them do unto you". Or even further still "Live and let live" ? That is just my enterpitation of every thing I have ever read.


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18:54:28 Jul 12 2006
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I am glad you found it enlighting



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Like I said before if you take only the main idea from ether one or any other decree of how we should act they all say the same thing.

"Live and let live."

Do then not all means this?


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Like religions there a lot of different beliefs when it comes to this stuff. It's hard to know which one to use. I'm a strong believer in loyalty and if everyones making up they're own beliefs and rules it makes it hard to find the true historical value of any religious coven or sect or whatever. which goes back further in history that's what I want to know.



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paulo
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idk what the strigoi II is
but i do follow the Black Veil!
i think it is a very well written guideline for the modern way of life.
my lord, could you post something telling about the Strigoi II?
please and thank you!

Sahahria edit: From Ryu above, http://www.strigoivii.org/



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Dark Greeting's, I must confess I have no idea what strigoivii is I plan to go to the website you mentioned to learn more,The Black Veil I know of .It truely is a good way to live to me it's just common sence.I hope to get back to this post after I learn more,
Dark Blessing's,
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Chazeroth
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Merry Meet

The "Black Veil to me is no more than the Wiccan Rede. It can also be viewed as the 10 Commandments. The basis is the creed by which a devout believer lives and dies by.

Merry Part.



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Neither. Common sense works best for me.



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paulo
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lol
well, i read what you posted! lol...lucky you, you can delete it if you want! lol
i see the Black Veil as a good standard for daily life guidelines, but in no way is it anywhere near the Wiccan Rede!

ever mind the rule of three,
what you cast out comes back to thee.
8 words the Wiccan Rede fulfill
"an ye harm none, do as ye will"
follow this with mind and heart,
and marry ye meet and marry ye part.



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Darkfreek
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i'm not sure about wiccian or such but i have visited the site you are talking about and have read as much as i could get my hands on. i like the base ideas of the black vail and try to work them into my life. For i have just reacently awakened, and truly beleave that people as a whole are stupid. You know the whole mob mentality thing. their for it is easier to let people who want to learn in their time to do so and not force anything.



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scionofrequiem
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I have read over the Strigoi Vii teachings and understand them. I follow some of their teachings yet modify them to my own desires. As for the veil, the old veil, I follow.

- SIn



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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19:12:40 Jul 13 2006
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wow Brother Sin and brother Stabb I am honored... I honor and uphold the old Black Veil aswell the new I do not agree with and I try and stay on the path of the Strigoi VII my house is founded on both.



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I go my own way. I follow my own code of ethics, some of it I consider to have roots in Bushido (the samurai warrior code of feudal Japan), but I also mix in Western concepts, such as chivalry. I respect those who respect me.

I am a Rogue Noctis.



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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20:10:15 Jul 13 2006
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well my brother chivalry is part of Bushido and what it is , is the warriors code.. I understand what you are trying to say..



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for those of you who don't know the Black Veil...


The Black Veil
A Voluntary Code of Ethics for Vampiric Groups and Individuals
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1. DISCRETION
This lifestyle is private and sacred. Respect it as such. Use discretion in who you reveal yourself to, and make certain that your motives are to truly communicate about our culture and to engender understanding. By no means should you talk to others about yourself and our community when your motives are for selfish reasons such as self-promotion, sensationalism, and attention-getting.
Do not hide from your nature, but never show it off to those who won't understand.

2. DIVERSITY
Our paths are many, even though the journey we are on is essentially the same. No single one of us has all the answers to who and what we are. Respect everyone's personal views and practices. We cannot let petty differences of ideology prevent us from maintaining a unified community; there are enough who would attack us from the outside.
Our diversity is our strength. Let our differences in viewpoint enrich us but never divide us upon ourselves.

3. SAFETY
Use sense when indulging your nature. Do not flaunt what you are in public places. Feed in private and make certain your donors will be discrete about what happens between you. Donors who create rumors and gossip about us are more harm than they're worth. If you engage in blood-letting, put safety and caution above all other things. Blood-borne diseases are a very real thing, and we cannot risk endangering ourselves or others through irresponsibility. Screen donors carefully, making certain they are in good health both mentally and physically.
Never overindulge or get careless. The safety of the entire community rests upon each member's caution.

4. CONTROL
We cannot and should not deny the darkness within. Yet we should not allow it to control us. If our beast or shadow or darkside is given too much sway, it clouds our judgment, making us a danger even to those we love. Never indulge in pointless violence. Never bring willful harm to those who sustain you. Never feed only for the sake of feeding, and never give over to mindless bloodlust.
We are not monsters: we are capable of rational thought and self-control. Celebrate the darkness and let it empower you, but never let it enslave your will.

5. LIFESTYLE
Live your life as an example to others in the community. We are privileged to be what we are, but power should be accompanied by responsibility and dignity. Explore and make use of your vampire nature, but keep it in balance with material demands. Remember: we may be vampires, but we are still a part of this world. We must live lives like everyone else here, holding jobs, keeping homes, and getting along with our neighbors.
Being what we are is not an excuse to not participate in this reality. Rather, it is an obligation to make it a better place for us to be.

6. FAMILY
We are, all of us, a family, and like all families, various members will not always get along. However, respect the greater community when having your disputes. Do not let your individual problems bring emotional strife to the family as a whole. Settle your differences quietly among one another, only seeking out an elder's aid in mediation when no other solution seems possible. Never bring your private disputes into public places and never draw other family members into the issue by forcing them to take sides.
Like any normal family, we should always make an effort to present a stable and unified face to the rest of the world even when things are not perfect between us.

7. HAVENS
Our havens are safeplaces where everyone in the community can come to socialize. There are also often public places where we are likely to encounter people who don't understand our ways. We should respect the patrons of these places as we should also respect the owners of the establishments and always be discrete in our behavior. We should never bring private disputes into a haven. We should never initiate violence in a haven. And we should never do or bring anything illegal into a haven, as this reflects badly upon the community as a whole.
The haven is the hub of the whole community, and we should respect it as such, supporting it without business and working to improve its name in the scene so that we can always call it home.

8. TERRITORY
The community is extensive and diverse. Every city has a different way of doing things, and a different hierarchy of rule. When entering a new city, you should familiarize yourself with the local community. Seek out the local havens. Learn what households have sway here. Get in touch with key members of the community, learn who is who, and show proper respect where it is due. You should not expect to impose your old way of doing things on this new scene. Rather you should adapt to their rules and be glad of their acceptance.
Always be on your best behavior when coming to a new city either to visit or to stay. We are all cautious and territorial by nature, and only by making the most positive impression possible will you be accepted and respected in a new community.

9. RESPONSIBILITY
This lifestyle is not for everyone. Take care in who you choose to bring into it. Those who are mentally or emotionally unstable have no place among us. They are dangerous and unreliable and may betray us in the future. Make certain that those you choose to bring in are mature enough for this burden. Teach them control and discretion, and make certain that they respect our ways.
You will be responsible for their actions, and their behavior in the community will be reflected back to you.

10. ELDERS
There are certain members of our community who have established themselves as just and responsible leaders. These are the people who helped establish local communities, who organize havens, and who work to coordinate the networking of the scene. While their word does not have to be law, they should nevertheless be respected. They have greater experience than many others, and usually greater wisdom. Seek these elders out to settle your disputes, to give you guidance and instruction, and to help you establish yourself in the local scene.
Appreciate the elders for all they have given you: if it was not for their dedication, the community would not exist as it does now.

11. DONORS
Without those who offer themselves body and soul to us, we would be nothing. We cannot be other than what we are, but it is the donors who sustain our nature. For this service, they should be respected. Never mistreat your donors, physically or emotionally. They are not to be manipulated or leeched off of for more than what they freely offer. Never take them for granted. Appreciate them for the companionship and acceptance which they offer us, which so many others would refuse. This above all: appreciate the gift of their life. That communion is sacred. Never fail to treat it as such.

12. LEADERSHIP
When you choose to take a position of authority in the community, remember that you do not lead for yourself alone. Leadership is a responsibility, not a privilege. A good leader must set an example for everyone through his actions and behavior. His motives should be selfless and pure, and he should put the interests of the whole community before his own.
The best leaders are those who serve to better the community and whose person and behavior gives no one -- even those outside of the community -- a reason to criticize them.

13. IDEALS
Being a vampire is not just about feeding upon life. That is what we do, but not necessarily what we are. It is our place to represent darkness in a world blinded by light. We are about being different and accepting that difference as something that empowers us and makes us unique. We are about accepting the dark within ourselves and embracing that darkness to make us whole beings. We are about celebrating the thresholds: body and spirit, pleasure and pain, death and life.
Our lives should be lived as a message to the world about the beauty of accepting the whole self, of living without guilt and without shame, and celebrating the unique and beautiful essence of every single soul.





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paulo
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21:02:04 Jul 13 2006
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maybe we should talk to the prince about the rules or guidelines being part of this site?
lol
i mean, it would be pretty good, this being a vampire site and all.



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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he would not have it but some of the laws of the site are some what the same



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doing such would be a violation of the concept of a NON RELIGIOUS site...note i say non religious...not anti religious....
it would be putting one over others....
and at it's simplified core.....chazeroth is right
almost all major world religions both past and present have their strictures and rules to live by....most are diferent in their wordings....
but very similar in their deeper meanings...
and all of them break down to concepts held within us all....we call it intuition....the simple knowledge that something is right or wrong...even if we choose to disregard such
this is the set of rules I follow in life....i let that which is within guide me...no more is actually needed



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I have heard of "The Black Veil" but not the other one. Although I do intend on reading the site that was givin in the begining of this thread.



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The Black Veil ^_^ though i just now memorized it today...



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I study the Striogoi Vii traditions.



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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08:41:41 Jul 24 2006
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I am on the path of the Strigoi Vii but Honore the Black Veil



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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I am ending this for I will no longer make threads if you wish to know something ask me or read my journal under the Vampyric info part there is much of what I have learned there and I will keep posting my finds and Views there..
Thank you



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