DNA is still in the early stages of being understood…. Part of the mystery of our DNA is junk DNA part of that is Transposons or selfish genes. They insert themselves into chromosomes and reorient the cellule process, this normally happens on a small scale.
They can totally mutate us or change us inside We can find markers that will tell us where we came from centuries ago and even what illnesses we may have had as a family line, one of the things I find interesting with DNA is some of it is considered parasitic or vampirisms in nature. It is believed this is left over from our evolution and viruses that may have been then. Basically it is from a past we don’t know and it’s totally alien to us in many ways even dangerous. In the great design of thing why have the ability to alter ourselves from the DNA up?
Do you think genetic food can be sparking our DNA to give us the feelings of being vampire in nature or some over use of radiation by society like Chernobyl fall out affecting us more?
What do you think about junk DNA and how our surroundings are affecting our DNA?
Intresting. I think radiation is the biggest cause, but it can happen to a healthy person. We all have cancer, it just lies dormant, untill something triggers it. Although we dont have a cure for it, we do though for 'junk genes' . Stem cell research, they are the basic 'clever genes' that forums a number of thngs. they can grow into an arm or leg even organs! I do Believe they can take the 'junk genes' out. From stem cells they have growen ears on the backs of mice, geven them a few extra legs.
I think our DNA evolves with us. Gets more complex as we do.
However weeding out certain defects that we've picked up along the way wouldn't be a bad idea.
I really have no idea what you mean by food affecting our DNA and pushing us into Vampyrism. Junk DNA is just functionless portions of DNA sequences. If they have no function I doubt that they carry any kind of virus that would cause us to change.
as you said, much is unknown about DNA. such as the recombinance factor, such as splicing and tearing of genetic strands. also, if you were to remove certain genes from a human, you run the danger of corrupting the overall structure.our genes have information about our family history, including inherent resistances to sickness. you remove strands and you may remove the invulnerability
It would be excellent to have a better understanding. I saw something, I think on the news, that they found DNA in people that is prone to being murderers, thieves etc. So if they can figure out exactly what causes people to do such things... Maybe the world would be a better place.
i would hav to disagree with the openining statement. DNA is not in its early stages of being understood. scientists and doctors known pretty much everything there is to kno about DNA, or atleast the important stuff
Well thank you so far for your inputs.
This is a little above most topics I guess. So to break it down a little …
Healer I understand your faith in science is not to question what you have been told.
A thought for you… DNA is made up of 95% junk DNA we don’t know anything about, would you call that knowing pretty much all there is to know? lol
DNA governs how we develop and much much more… im sure we all aware it can cause cancer to start with, it also may be behind why some have a VMAT2 the god genes, anyone with out this doesn’t not believe in god those with tend to feel there’s a god.
Same goes with thief and so forth it looks like our DNA makes us become what we do and feel beliefs and traits.
So what im getting at is why are we becoming such a large community of vampire lovers now … what is making us come out of the shadows?
Is it in our food?
Our water
Our air?
Our DNA is still quite a mysterious thing, i personaly would have no idea what would cause a real significant change to our DNA, but i think perhaps, time and how everything is changing around us my affect our genetic design.
You toss in a very good and valid point ~Lav~, I believe the government has been doing this for years, conspiracy theories set aside for a moment.
Based upon the point you are wanting to make concerning foods, air as well as water supplies, are part of what the government has control over.
Now, if you wish to conspire an answer, then I would consider why fast food companies are still around. Are they moderated by certain government facilties? Choosing which biproducts to put into their foods, which in turn are chemically balanced by who knows what type of transitional vitamins.
DNA studies have gone on for years, from the changing of chromasomes to create a male or female infant by choice, the ulmighty sheep cloning prospect, to all out concentration of certain viral sirums. Such as the AIDS virus cure.
Since they have drawn the conclusion that the jacobs ladder is a mix of many differant chromasomes within its strands involving the double helix, suggestions have already been applied for cross examinational purposes.
I believe the government has been aware of the DNA fundamentals for quite some time, not to contradict you, but if they have been "close" with certain areas of research, then it would be kept "top secret" and extremely confidential from the hands of the "media" eye. Certain things should not be made public for obvious reasons. Since on quite a few occasions, the expoitation of this type of information usually bring on an ignorance within society that should be kept on a level.
I would imagine that there is quite a bit the 'general public' aren't told.
What is actually known about DNA is but one possible thing to discuss as far as that goes.
I think that the ability to alter/change DNA is very close, if not already an option.
Now getting it where it is common knowledge and accepted, a whole 'nother story.
Well, considering ~Lav's~ point of which is very well made, regarding food sources changing simple DNA chromasomes with a long term diet which the government has made for society, is quite applicable.
For instance, vampiric related ingrediants which we have no clue about, speculated thought on my part would conceive that (by a long shot of course) would be "high fructose corn syprup" or any other mildly based ingrediant, or any active ingrediants of which have very long scientific names for them. Betacaritine, could be as example of those long words, not nessessarily vampiric based, but a good point.
The point I think is wishing to be made, is no matter what ingrediants go into certain foods that are being given to society whether fast food or grocer, could have made, not altered, but originated by governmental facilities for the sake of human genome testing purposes. Just to see where society stands regarding strengths and weakness's, compatability issues, and or other "side effects" that stem from such ingrediants.
Adaptability after years of biotoxins, not nessessarily bad for the body, but nonetheless detrimental for the growth process. Such as caffiene stunting an individuals growth, which in turn is an allergy for the immune system.
I am sure some form of the government has a distinct facility regarding such matters of experimental agenda, where results are a mandatory daily process.
Eh, conspiracies as always, but who knows truth from fiction these days.
Eating or drinking government issued food isn't going to do a damn thing. Our bodies break down the acids and proteins and transform them to usable matter.
Only metals and naturally toxic food products can cause any sort of genetic change.
This 'anti-god" gene of yours is nothing more than a few pages of people with an agenda grabbing at straws.
Hell genetically certain races are inferior to others, individuals can also have "poor" DNA which causes them to be come an alcoholic, or to get depressed or to become the worlds greatest artists. But we can't focus on that now can we?
Nearly every thread of this type from you Lav is attempting to find was to remove god, namely Christianity and the others simply poke fun at other ideas.
The government is not trying to kill us with fluorinated water and pesticides. Hell DEET saved millions of lives but why is it banned? Because it kill a few animals, big whoop. I'd rather have an extinct species of butterfly than millions of yearly deaths from malaria.
Anyway we know everything about DNA's structure and primary actions but we know almost nothing about how they interrelate, sequence themselves and so on. Any Vampire gene, God gene, Gay gene...is all a bunch of speculation and crap because there is no firm science behind it.
Your a vampire because you like energy how you get it doesn't matter.
Your a person of faith because it builds a better soul and world. Which faith is also inconsequential.
Things that will change our DNA is radiation, heavy metals, infections/illness, malnutrition and over eating.
Well said soulshroud sir… and no for sure I don’t feel contradicted lol
Some Good points you have placed, double helix replicating it’s self for which purpose I wonder.
I will have to go back through my books n vids I remember some theories that human cousness was started by solar radiation of sorts ( I know almost out of a comic) as I remember it put up a great explanation for us being different from other animals… also placed into my mind why us and not dogs?
Hi XAzavier
Im thinking our food genetically modified and alterations to give long shelf life from radiation is doing lots to us but we are both entitled to a view lol
The VMAT2 is not my gene lol far from it, helps me understand those who think there is a god just the same for me as I believe there are dark beings so I may have a gene you don’t… and that is the one im talking about and why more and more are feeling what I do, unlike years ago when this genre was small.
I do find your comment on me attempting to remove Christianity or god or poking fun out of order. i will not go down the road of knocking religion as I don’t need to or want to??
Im glad you support the government that is your right, with staged events in the un to cause a war from the daughter of Kuwaiti ambassador lies and oil prices forced high so bill gets rich our armed forces killed and we pay for the war in money jobs n more. Where we pay by our liberties and freedom being taken away to save us from the new red under the bed where dog food has killed more people than terrorist????? Lol
I wont go on and sorry you feel im that way…
So back to the post so as not to get of topic.
DNA is what made us. Everyones is different which makes us individuals. We all have the bad DNA some just get triggered earlier then others. I dont think junk food really has much effect on it at all. I do believe radiation, pullition and such can affect our DNA.
I agree with xzavier except for the part about without America we all be dead, a lot of people have died for the same causes throughout history.
All the do gooders in the world keep blaming junk food, the sun etc etc that it is doing no good for our gene's/dna.
Perhaps if these ppl didnt try pushing their views onto us we look after ourselves better, all gov do is look out for themselves (once in power) they develope new weapons and test these not sure on what the outcome will be. The ppl who do the testing is effected by it and as the generations pass this might effect their dna down the line.
I was meaning in a WWII context, no nation is without fault.
We all know that what we eat will effect our health in one way or the other. The real issue isn't forcing McDonald's to make healthier foods or expanding the powers of the FDA, but re-educating people on the word "no" and the good/importance of exercise.
If you can't pronounce an ingredient then don't eat it and if your burger is dripping with fat don't complain.
True, companies should take a more active role in health protection but in the end it boils down the person making a choice. Republics can only continue to grow if the citizenry takes an active role in it.
And once again only naturally (toxic regardless of human interaction) toxic products will/may alter our DNA in a negative way.
Cigarette companies could create harmless cigarettes.
Junk food companies could create whole health lines that would guarantee no junk in your food.
Gyms and personal trainers could be free.
If the person does not have the willpower, it doesn't matter what companies do to solve the health issues, it just won't work if people do not wake up and smell the danger.
I believe it is also with the amount of medication we take. Now adays we have medication for everything unlike the old days when it was all natural. I dont think junk food is the answer we need to look at our pass far fewer sick ppl and the only medical medican they had was all natural. We are quick to blame anything and everything except ourselves.
(Carefully guys, this is awfully close to the VR red tape regarding political discussion...Just a reminder.)
I dont wanna turn this in to an argument but you amaricans dragged us in head fisrt to wwii, where were you in wwi aye? missing out on a better point os a few years! but anyway.
Junk food can and probably will cause this rouge gene to mutate alot faster than normal, because of all the preservatives and crap, but im sure this is only a tiny amount of whats affecting DNA.
I dont wanna turn this in to an argument but you amaricans dragged us in head fisrt to wwii, where were you in wwi aye? missing out on a better point os a few years! but anyway.
Junk food can and probably will cause this rouge gene to mutate alot faster than normal, because of all the preservatives and crap, but im sure this is only a tiny amount of whats affecting DNA.
Soulshroude - why do you think I stopped talking about it? lol
Thanks for the reminder.
lol yeah i know i was just saying, but enough not the time or place, doesnt affect me!
I know as much science as an average three year old.
However I understand that rather alot is known about dna.
I agree with Xzavier on this.
I have no objection to people calling themselves Vampires, but please stop trying to find scientific reasons for your lifestyle choices.
I see this is slipping from the question I originally asked and with comments like I have a three years old grasp on science yet believe we know loads on dna except the 95% we ignore as junk lol
So I must kill this thread for I see nothing good developing from it and do not wish to cross cancers lines
If you could at least point us in the right direction for your claims.
A link perhaps ?
Its all part of evolution, we need the DNA that is able to make alterations in order for our species to survice, all creatures have this ability. The ability to adapt as the surroundings require of us, if our DNa was not able to adapt or make changes our species would become extinct eventionally.
I'll give you a plausible theory if you believe in evolution, and it will reconcile the issue between Xzavier and Lav.
Evolution is occurring even as we speak. The genetic modifications of current crops and foods will eventually have an effect on our DNA. It occurs at such a slow rate of change that it is nearly imperceptible.
There is a gene in certain Native American tribes that allowed these groups to last days without food, but which now increases there susceptibility to diabetes. The concept is simple. Those who lack this gene or have another that can counter this issue will survive.
Likewise, the genetically modified food that we now consume can and does make people sick. Those who are unaffected will survive. Natural selection. So, yes it's possible that our food is leading us toward vampyric activity, but I think it's more of a sociological etiology.
As for the 95% junk DNA? I have a difficult time believing that Nature makes mistakes of such a grand scale. If humans don't know what the other 95% of our DNA does, we probably aren't looking close enough.
Yes Utahvamp what a relief and following that thought and having knowledge that a lot of us on VR relate to the vampire myth in a couple of ways even to the point we believe blood feeding necessary and abilities to drain energy common practice for keeping healthy n more. I feel it is our DNA a dark past in our junk code starting to show.
And was wondering what in our society has caused so many to come forward now?
I don’t believe the government has anything to do with actively causing this so please remove the conspiracy ideas.
we are Evolving still and it seems to be down a dark path….. what are your views on this?
Lav, to me it seems your saying that there is an increase of vampiric "activity" due to DNA mutations, junk DNA turning on as it were.
Just because Vampires are more popular doesn't mean there has been any fundamental change in society or genetics. Nor a higher percentage of people who claim to be vampires. Today we have gay rights and gays are coming out of the wood work...does that mean there are more gays? No, simply more can come out in todays climate. Today about 3% of the population is homosexual, it's been around that same amount forever. Same with vampires.
Mnemonics are a much better candidate to explain the fascination people have with Vampires. Mnemonics (to mimic) is part of human nature, we seek to copy what we find enjoyable or popular.
As for "junk" DNA thats a misnomer sorta like the "big bang". There was no big bang, it was a singularity that quietly exploded.
Junk DNA has a purposes and is useful, we just don't know why/what/how, just like your gall-bladder or appendix they have functions and are not useless they just have a different way of showing it :)
I see your point Xzavier but don’t follow your gay rights and linking it to anything but gay rights ? how can it parody vampirism behavior? vampire is vampire?
DNA affects chromosomes and the wrong ones make you alternative to societies norm I believe.
Going back to useless fact I understand a current theories are when a war is on and the societies are affected they tend to produce more males babies and when in peace more female … nature has a balance mechanism and it all starts with DNA shown to be affected with junk DNA and we don’t know much about it and have spent 10 years understanding the block of DNA the 5 % and are still working out the patterns… which besides looking like blue blocks are in fact vibrations…. Crazy stuff for sure they give of good n bad vibes lol
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/science/news/article_1382221.php/DNA_vibrations_are_music_to_the_ears_of_US_Italian_scientists
What I am saying is genetics has about as much to do with being gay as it does with being a vampire, numbers wise. (not very much)
There is almost zero DNA evidence for "alternative lifestyle" behaviour linked to genetics.
I'm simply pointing out the current fact and personal opinion that genetics only play a small role in personal choices. Most things we do are because we chose them, be it vampires or gays. There is some DNA connection but not much and def. not enough to warrant such a conversation.
The real reasons are mnemonics and circumstance.
well I agree that DNA has nothing to do with a persons preference to their sex life LOL I do feel that with all the different things in our foods and microwaves and just less and less purity in our intake... that it may take a toll on our bodies.
just an opinion.