What's the definition of one's soul? Energy within the body that depletes after the human form is dead. so why would not your soul stick around if your body and mind and sight is still active perse as the living dead. or would you just be a shell for a spirit. which in many forms would be a soul.
So yes, all things living have a soul and Hollywood's adaption of the undead would still have a soul in my way of thinking, if they still remember their years of life and still have the same soul as when they were alive and feelings and sight as we are today. energy would still be in the body in some form.
I think what made them human left, hence theyre vampires now. So by that logic theyre soulless. Considering theyre often shown needing living blood for their own strength, depending on humans with souls to keep them going it just further indiciates that they lack something (and i wouldnt say they just lack blood but more specifically the essence inside it). Id say this all mainly depends on what youd consider makes someone human and what is essential for humanity. In many adaption the vampire once it dies has no afterlife or anywhere to go, which also supports them not having a soul that can go anywhere / go to "heaven"
Altered soul but still have a soul. For if not it would be like zombies (From movies) the only thing they know is to feed. Walking around aimless and without care no thoughts, no feelings, no hunting. Just want to feed so is vampire like that, no reference of the past, no hurting, no compassion, walking around aimless.
I still believe there is a soul within it all.
Could be! But it's most definitely changed. Vampire Bill is a good example from True Blood, and so are Lestat and Louis. BUT, it could also be said that perhaps their infinite time on earth, and witnessing everything they love break, and everyone they love die has made them colder.
The question of whether vampires possess a spirit or soul is one that treads the line between mythology, metaphysics, and the darker corners of human belief. If we consider the vampiric archetype, especially from both traditional and modern perspectives, the answer varies depending on the lore or the view one takes.
In the context of real-world vampirism, many would argue that a vampire, in its truest form, still retains its soul—albeit one twisted by its unnatural state. The essence that once inhabited a human body may not entirely be lost, but rather, it becomes corrupted, distorted by the need to feed and the desire for immortality. There are those who believe that the soul is forever bound to the body, even in the state of undeath, and it’s this very soul that drives the vampire's hunger for energy or blood. The soul here would be considered to be in a constant state of torment or imbalance, feeding off of others to sustain its hollow existence.
Your mention of Stephen King's Doctor Sleep brings an interesting parallel to psychic or "soul" vampires. These beings, born from human origins but transformed into something else—something more monstrous—continue to feed on others' energy, perhaps out of necessity, perhaps as a means of survival. The question of whether their soul departs when their humanity dies is a potent one. If the body dies, and the human part is gone, what remains is likely a spiritual echo or fragment of the original soul, endlessly wandering without its full tether to the mortal plane.
In the HBO adaptation of True Blood, the concept of the soul leaving the body upon the death of the vampire points to the idea that once the vampiric nature takes over, it consumes the human essence, creating something separate, something that no longer holds any true connection to the soul that was once human. This concept implies that the vampire, as we know it in popular fiction, might indeed be soulless after death—living, but in a perpetual, hollow state, with nothing to anchor them to their past.
Ultimately, the answer lies within the nature of the vampire in question. Are they a cursed form of immortality, shackled to a remnant of their soul, or are they a hollow shell, seeking purpose and sustenance in the endless night? And as for those who feed off others’ life force—whether blood, fear, or energy—do they possess a soul, or have they become something more primal, a reflection of the darkness in human nature itself?
If a vampire were to have a soul, would it remain whole, or would it fracture and fade, lost forever in the abyss of their insatiable need? This is a question that may never have a clear answer. But the fact remains—no matter what they may have lost, vampires walk among us, their existence a stark reminder of what happens when humanity slips into the void.
This is a profound question that sits at the heart of vampire mythology. I find TheRealTh1ng's perspective particularly compelling - that the soul may persist but become corrupted or fragmented. The distinction between fictional vampires and those who identify with vampirism spiritually is crucial here. In fiction, the loss or transformation of the soul often symbolizes the price of immortality and power. But for practitioners who work with vampire archetypes, the soul remains intact while the consciousness expands to encompass darker, predatory aspects. Perhaps the real question isn't whether vampires have souls, but whether the soul itself can be fundamentally transformed by embracing predatory spirituality without being destroyed. The various fictional treatments suggest that memory, emotion, and identity can persist even when the human soul is supposedly gone - which raises fascinating questions about what the soul actually is. Thank you for this thought-provoking discussion.
From a fictional standpoint, remember the moment when Angelus/Angel lost his soul, becoming a vampire. He was cruel and merciless, however when he was given his human soul back, he eventually became tortured and filled with guilt right down to the point of shutting himself from the world.
He did go through his redemption arc slowly and still maintained his soul, becoming the only vampire to have one. Whether or not vampires can have a spirit/soul, fictionally speaking; it all would depend on the verse they're in. Angel is within the buffyverse. So it might not be the same given different fictional vampires are within their own world. We normally see humans being the race to have souls, whereas vampires are ultimately undead- so do they still hold onto their humanity and soul like they did when they were still human or does their soul flee at the moment of their death.
Though, I haven't read the sookie stackhouse novels, I did see all of true blood. Bill's character itself can be a perfect example.
Bill was forced against his will and did not want to endure the life of the undead. Yes he had a fun run, but then as time passed on, he was filled with regrets and self hatred over what he was. Could Bill be a vampire with a soul? or is it his morality? Ya get where I'm coming from.
The topic of souls and vampires, could be discussed even further, although it would have to be where all different types of vampire verses are considered. From twilightverse, to vampirediaries and so forth. Each fictional vampire, depending on their origin may or may not have a soul AND that's the fascination of the unknown.
The Angel/Angelus dynamic from Buffy is such a perfect example of this debate. It suggests the soul is what provides moral compass and empathy, while the vampire essence remains predatory. But what intrigues me is how different vampire mythologies handle this—some suggest transformation, others complete replacement. The True Blood example of losing humanity in groups hints at the soul being gradually eroded rather than instantly lost. Perhaps it's less binary than we think?