After viewing several profiles and posts it has come to my attention that I may be one of the older members of vr age wise. I started to think about appearances and how each of us appear regularly now bare in mind this; I look like a vampire about 75 percent of the time each year, 1 quarter of it I do not: do to weight shifting. Now I do not have fangs but I am a witch and I possess a certain type of allure that I use to my advantage when encountering others and sometimes people are drawn to me and sometimes they fear me.
My question is this have you ever been discriminated against or deemed not hirable by a potential employer because of your appearance or dark charm if you will?
How do you deal with it being younger or older and what changes do have to make to fit the desired employee or to continue doing what you were without being harassed?
that has never happended at least not yet ne ways so far they surpass the darkend soul looks, they see my true beauty and sheer talent(not to sound stuck up or ne thing) ppl always seem to be drawn to me instead of being scared of me, in which i am surprised of
Yeah, lol they wont hire me at one of the local stores cause of how I dress and act. Tho I have a sweetness about me I am just to dark for them.
in order to obtain my current job, i had to remove my piercing ( which i was very fond of) . I felt i was compromising a part of myself at the cost of having financial means for comfortable living.
well i havent had to experience that as of yet, no doubt going for a summer clerkship at the end of the year i may encounter a problem.... but my uni lecturers have hired me as a research assistant, based on my intelligence and talent as a predominant law student not by my looks. I'm considering having my lip pierced and i think given the ppl who i work for at this point in time, getting a clerkship at the end of year will not be a problem... plus all my suits are black hehehehehe :P
...you and i have something in common, apparitionknight - a "vintage" about ourselves that shows a patina, if you will, with the passing of time. :) ...i hve had some resistance to my person from many different stages of life and have learned how to keep from compromising myself to get what i want out of life. i have to work xtra hard to "prove" myself, but in the long run, people who once were intimidated or fearful of me or something about the way i am have learned what a great person i am to have around.
...being profusely tattood, i used to think that it was some sort of stereotyping going on, but i learned after awhile that it wasn't *me* that they saw and were fearful of, but when people looked at me they really saw *themselves* (or what they longed to be) and that is what was really getting to them. i have compromised here and there when i thought it was worth the trouble. piercings can be re-pierced (what fun!) and sleeves can cover some of the ink, but in the long run, you are always just who you are and nothing more and nothing less. when folks learn that, it make things so much richer...
very well put. Some indivduals also fear the unknown. They don't understand and therefore place judgement on others.
Actually I have been turned away..or should we say told "Uhmm..Uh..sorry but we're not hiring right now." after given the full up down look.
I dress fairly normal, but all in black...my makeup is pretty dark though...and I have a very small ring in my eyebrow...smaller then the smallest regularly made brow ring...I custom made it and it's about as big as a neckless ring, until i cut my hair all off...most people hardly even knew that it was there.
Having said that...I went tot he local Wally world when I first moved back to Chicago and interviewd for a cashier position...I interviewd with two people when the third one comes in to interview me (having worked for WW I already knew the procedure, when y'r going for the third, y'r hired)...anyway's..the third manager came in and all of a sudden she's talking about a completely different position in the back of the store in receiving...behind the doors where the majority of the public does not see...being she tells me it's a permanent position. Then while I'm still sitting there all of a sudden I find myself in a converstaion with them of the differences between what a "goth" is and what a "punk" is...As my clothes are more "punk" and but everything else is more "goth". Needless to say I got the job still in the back...(had to work)...I worked my ass off for a month then I' told I'm being seasonaly (sp?) laid off...I't been over month...the store has hired and is still hiring back many of the people that were hired at the same time...but for me they tell me "We're not hiring right now, we don't have the sale up." So you tell me...yes alot of places do discriminate (sp?) against people like me/us here at the Rave...and before it gets said...yes I do at times dress accordingly just to get certain jobs...you do what you have to do.
Umm turned away is a bit harsh in my case but I would say i have been severly restricted i can't get my tongue pierced or a tattoo also any hair modifications have to be approved (Its a health and social care course which will lead to paramedic placement then Paramedic training) we get told its because we are treatin the public and we need to be professional (???) but we get taugh equal ops as well which drives home the point everybody is an individual so treat them as such yet the throwback on us is we don't get to be an individual :-s the mighty NHS 4 u
ugh, ive dealt with people misunderstanding me my whole life. because i wear alot of black, im deemed a witch, and all else that goes with BLACK. ooo...i actually applied at the buckle years ago. dillards too. they just couldnt get me. ha....its ok. kinda hurts...but....i told the buckle folks that i didnt think they should be following people around all the time and should give people space....it gives the impression that they are afraid someone will steal. not cool. i hate that shit. anyway, i have tattoos, pierced nose...i have yet to try to get a job with them showing. *gulp* *wincing*...but i read tarot, and am into so many supernatural, paranormal and esoteric topics, everyone knows thats just Jamie. what really irritates me, is when they assume im a satanist or something to that effect. ugh......they wouldnt know a satanist if they came up and said, "good day to you.". haha.....:P
As most of you can see from my pictures, I suppose I'm 'standard' as it were. Most of my piercings are genital in nature (except for my hidden septum piercing), and so are my tattoos.
Considering most don't know how I -really- am since I generally change attitudes while applying for aposition... once I have it I'm back to me for the most part.
To be honest, the only jbo I was turned down for and not even given an applicaiton for was Victoria's Secret of all places. I was 19, and the lady I asked if they were hiring was rude enough to set her hands on her knees and ask me 'how old are you, sweetie?' Obviously... that wasn't the right answer for me.
I suppose my answer of 'certainly younger than you and old enough to know how to apply makeup -far- better than your pasty face' wasn't the best of answers.
Man this one goes back some; My grandmother said once when I was a teen that "don't come visit until you are done with your mourning." well safe to say it never ended and gram finally got over what I wear and never thought much of it again. She practiced a lot of magick too, but managed not to get into the black/gothic part of it.
When I lived in Salem, wearing black and gothic was a normalcy, even being hired in town they didn't think twice of it. But moving to Phoenix was a different story altogether. I've learnt to hide the essence-demon-little wierd things to get by day to day. But I tell you once in a while the demon NEEDS to get out and it's a night out, not necessarily dressed all up but 'stretching wings' as it were.
But I have found out that in hair school they expect a cleaner professional appearance but they encourage originality, and I"m all for that! Imagine working someplace where they accept you as a goth! Too cool.
And the sign says "Long hair freaky people need not apply"
So I put my hair under my hat and I went in to ask him why
He said, "You look like a fine outstanding young man, I think you'll do."
So I took off my hat I said "Imagine that. Huh. Me working for you."
-- "Signs", Tesla