What would happen if you were one of the vampires that feed off of energy, but you had never had a taste of blood and you drink it any way, what would happen?
BrianaRose:
That's not what he is asking. As I see it, his question is:
What would happen if a Psi Vampire decided to drink blood?
PatrickTheDarkOne:
I found seceral references online to those Psi Vampires who also drink blood: They are considered Psi-Blood Feeders.
"During the past year, several vampire writers observed that the vast majority of self-defined human living vampires (HLV's) in the online community report both psychic vampire tendencies and a greater or lesser interest in drinking blood.
For some, psychic vampire energy feeding is a possible substitute for blood-drinking; for others, the situation is the reverse. There appears to be a continuum running through the middle area between "pure" psychic vampires (psychic vampires with no craving to drink blood, although they may have some interest in it or even be blood fetishists) and "pure" blood vampires (blood vampires with no psychic vampire tendencies that are perceptible to themselves or others, although they may have psychic ability).
HLV's falling within this continuum do experience some degree of blood craving at the same time that they experience definite psychic vampire tendencies. Whether these two tendencies alternate in predominance or remain in balance with respect to each other varies with the individual."
Reference:
Psi-Blood Feeders
Over the course of time they will hybridize themselves so that sanguine feeding and PSi feeding will be the same. In the beginning they might not feel the same sustained feeling after feeding. But with time and frequency of using both techniques they will not even notice the difference.
Wouldn't blood be a form of energy? If so then why would it be difficult to conceive the idea that psi vamps could or could not drink blood. I don't believe I have ever come across this before where it was stated that you are either one or the other and cannot be a mix of both. Energy is energy but has different forms.
A vampire is a vampire is a vampire, simply put. Stereotype it into whatever category so chosen. This does not make the individual any more or less special because they claim to be any sort of stereotype that comes from this category.
I have really never known any culture to segregate themselves this badly... Eh, whatever.
Nothing happens when a supposed energy feeder "psi" takes in a bit of blood "sang." "Hybrids" do not exist. This is just another stereotype for the roleplaying that the so called "vampire community" is used to. Plain and simple. I wouldn't take it so seriously.
I agree with Psivampire.. That was well reasearched and i would have to agree.. Brillant.
Very interesting topic.
If at the core of vampirism is a need for energy...
If you believe that sanguine and psy (I am not a huge fan of this term but this thread isn't about semantics) vampires are both lacking the ability to produce or have "special" energy needs is there a difference between the type or quality of energy gleaned from blood versus prana (again not my favorite term but meaning energy gained from psy feeding)?
I wonder if this is similar:
If you set an infant in front a thanksgiving dinner can they digest the food? An infant doesn't have teeth and would not be able to consume the food unaided. Does an infant they have the necessary proteins to break the food down into the elements needed to nourish their bodies?
Can a psy vampire extract the needed energy from blood? Can a sanguine vampire process and use the energy gained from psy feeding? If so, would there be a cancellation factor- would the energy required to convert the blood to usable energy and vice versa outweigh the energy gained in the process and ultimately create a bigger energy deficit?
I honestly dont think a Psy-vampire would ever drink blood, but if they did they would because they wanted to so i guess there would be a 50% chance they would either love or hate it.
If you ever crossed the line and did things you werent supposed to you would be taken out because you can attract attention where it isnt wanted.
If you dont have the teeth to drink blood you dont drink blood unless you get it from the blood bank and even then its dangerous to do that.
Teeth have nothing to do with drinking blood, lol
I agree with *deadlydesire*, energy is energy, and blood is a form of energy.
Well being psychic vampire I have to tell you my experiences.
I am often meditator, though i have less time to do such things, i do try different things time to time. I am psychic vampire for my immense dire of space energy and automatic subconscious growth time to time in fullest.
I tell you the fact that in psy vampirism, the energy feeding, the incubi and succubi psy feeding is much nornal for vampires, the ycan do it distant, this can be clearly done and felt other side by conscious students each other if they are vampires. ( I do not fall in incubi and succubi things) and I did find the space energy as my love and dire for space energy only. other energies i find naturally and in my way of human living.
But i did try to know the method of feeding of sang, you will not believe it when i was 16-17 year old and alone in the room, I was in different lust those days grown when I looked sparrow enetered in my room. I closed the window immediately to pick the sparrow to play with it. after 15 minutes when sparrow tired of escaping, i did pick it by hand and played like a toy. then I layed on bed and did put it on my chest. it grown my dire to test its blood. (That time i was unaware of human things). My mind forced me to have test of its blood. I did took on blade and did make a cut on it and licked it. yeah its immense energy I felt it with different test. I licked that cut so many time and there after I did make many more cuts and licked the blood from it, then threw the dead sparrow on the streat. the energy was very lustful and unexplainable. the same I did with one pigeon those days, but when its mate used to enter the room or sit outside of my window, in its sad days, it grown my human inside me most boldly that I decided not to kill any animal or bird in my total life. I cried a lot after I killed that pigeon coz its mate wass so sad, I could not handle my crieth and my sanguine vampire killed. It is sure licking the crude blood being beast gives you immense pleasure and energy. after that I tried to test the blood way of autovampirism to check energy nflow level. I had intended cut while shaving last year, after shave I immediately washed it and pinched it to taste few drops. it entered darkness inside me and locked me in subconsciousness for few days. it gave me the dark energy of very high level and i was feeling like drunken for 3-4 days and the darkness level was giving me fever some. that time i decided to stop this method immediately.
I will not try to gain any dark energy or psy energy in my etire life agian except space energy going spatially.
Space energy is the pure energy of cosmos and christ energy too is part of it. this energy makes very powerful being a beast a demon of space. this I will try in my holidays.
Well psy feeder (psy hunters distantly) and psy interceptors distantly this both is a reality in this world. But if I went on hunting the kin for feeding, i would unstoppable due to I did many a time the center focal point exercises. but this divine exercise, killed my evil part when I am spatial.
I did successful auraseek in my past and I often goes astral. No doubt many peepal helped me in these exercises even in vision but never tried channeling in other kins coz my exercises and entities appeared those time, killed my evil. I boldly refrain from touching other beings subconsciously.
Para-psychics are really gives ton to our mind...! I will try to make friendly contact with them again as soon as stand again in subtle world, as far now i have stopped my all divine exercises from 2-3 years.
~Crimsontears~ I regret to inform you of your lack of intelligence on two accounts, oh naive child.
1. Blood and energy are one and the same, how do you think humans survive? Blood contains nutrients, which are a form of energy on a molecular level. I will not go into details, do your own research on this one.
2. This one would be in response to:
"Ok not be rude but if you were what you say sweetie you wouldnt out yourself online every culture and race everything has rules you do not out yourself if you do you get hunted because you cause danger to others. Ok there are hunters out there dude, and in all reality they wouldnt come on to this site if they did exist they would just laugh at it and move on."
I am going to be quite rude here, so you have been warned... "Hunted"? Are you serious? *Chuckles* Get out of the roleplay already. If you really think someone will be hunted because of what they say online, then you are much more naive then first thought.
I am vampire, I do enjoy this site. I enjoy getting a kick out of the banter that comes out of the young mouths on this site, such as yours for example. I do laugh at most of the bantery on this site, but I enjoy some of the discussion as well. Dangerous? To whom? Simple minded roleplayers are a danger to no one but themselves, that is if they take the "game" a bit too far.
Do yourself a favor, study up on what you are trying to become... That is unless you claim something completely differant IE Goth, Emo, whatever "stereotype" you choose for yourself.
Excuse my impertinence here VR, for going off the beaten path yet again, but this has been my point for the whole "quit with the roleplay." statements as of late.
I do agree with ~Psivampire~ with the post brought, but all in all, energy is energy no matter where it comes from. The nutrients from the blood have energy, thus some humans can and do take a bit of the energy by drinking blood. This does not make them vampire. Nor does a "psi" vampire drinking blood turn them into a "sang" vampire, as mentioned it is all semantics in the end. A vampire is a vampire, is a vampire regarless the tanacity to stereotype the term. I could slap the jack-off upside the head that came up with those terms.
What is seam to you the role play on web level, there are much more than this in reality in dark world, they even do tantra and mantra and blood drinking of live person, sacrifice with that person to aghore tantriks this all is underworld news and even more devastating news i have read and much more than i have expereienced i wrote to you. and there do exist distant hypnotist reiki players and yogis, yogis whose trataka is irreversible due to their involvement levels in meditation and center focal point exercises. David Blaine is example of it.
I am not role player, I have tested the blood and felt its energy level when grown conscious level. I did those bookish exercises which keep me out of role playing.
You can not say that no one can intake energies. you just to know the method and tested those method successfully after few try. those method include many exercises to include you in those kins.
Thats why dark is dark distinct from common peepal. Yes if I rise subconsciously, i do not have predator coz I rise on deifferent methods including auraseek and aura seek have no interception. you just have to seek the ara of person and total entity of the kin in front of you along with its core and then you can feed on it very easily. and it is true that since I am not reguler so that my feeding level will be very low, since I will try first time. but regular feeder can bring you energyless very easily. Once I am suffered due to such feeding. I did not know what to do while my wholebody got tired and aching due to fed by other.
Aura seek is mixture of vision and grown conscious. You can even intrude your hands in the target's stumoch.
what i told is not at all role play things. ma it look very odd and unknown to who don't know the exercises. but its all true.
thanks to the lightside world that it supressed the dark arts and community from doing practices in common. Otherwise they are able to show youtheir powers and even they can put appear other entity in front of you visible. such peepal do not come in to picture except one kin doing it in common public that is david blaine. david blaine if go on using trataka, can bring down any kin to lay on ground distantly except that level yogis.
I personally experienced many skills of such peepal, including dream interception, other's mind and body control distantly.
The last para i experienced justlike puppet coz other was doing making me toy first and later to watch third person's mind body controlled distantly and even i did not see who was doing this. In dream interception the person can change its kinship or body and faces very easily. and while mind and body control you can not come to know, who is doing this?
This is true that even ghosts are energy feeder. they when like any kin, they attach to that kin and in long term that kin become very thin and slim coz of lust feeding.
Well, I wouldn't assume that I am not experienced in the give and take of energy flow because I call out so much of what I see here as role play. And if it isn't role play, then it's still a form of deep seeded fantasy with majority of people. I am well aware of the tantra, reiki, etc, etc... But as I stated before...too much role play when there could actually be a real discussion.
~Vemon~ you seem to misunderstand me, I was only refering as being "hunted" as a roleplay response, nothing more.
I as well have experienced much, much more then what I say within these forum walls. I will say no more as to the experience(s).
But I will say that there is a huge difference between roleplay and the real esoteric world, and that which is seemingly wrapped around the "dark world" that a few individuals are coining the phrase as of late.
Keep on with the unneeded stereotypes for whatever you believe in, do what you will. Just learn definitions before other nonesensical words come out of an urban-esque dictionary.
(Bows in utmost reverence)
Yes Honorable Soulshroud,
the word hunt or hunted is purely the word of hollywood or fantassy or urban dictionery laisure persuit to create fantassy. but real dark world is not of fantassy. its full of shock or pain more than pleasure. thats why i did stop my study on subconscious and gross conscious.
Once you go one testing exercises of feeding on others, you start writing your bondage to do the same again and again automachanically. and doing this again and again, you do cut the self more from lightside world ( world without own slept subconscious and own active gross conscious) this kills your common tuning with common world.
Coz once you grown your subconscious for few seconds, it impct for few minutes and if you go on in many tens of such seconds, it lasts for hours. or instantly you have to do balancing exercises or relaxing exercises such as shavsana for 20 minutes least to come into light side world by balancing the dark with light (subcosciousness erased).
In other words, for the benefit of the rave... The lack of discernment from one reality to the other on the subconscious level, greatly stills a focal point with the true physical reality that the individual is enveloped around. The corporeal.
The mental subconsious barrier that brings the individual to this metaphorical dark world, is at other reality that the individual may only discern for their true world. This would be where the term "Lunatic" comes into play, as a derivative of "Lunar-tic" look up the definition for futher details.
Once one looses their senses for the real world, and cannot discern very well the physical aspects and are caught to far within that "fantasy" created by their subconscious, then they start dwelving into other areas that they would assume would make them feel a bit comfortable... Hence, vampirism, werewolves, other-kin roleplay philosophies ect.
It is only natural that when the individual is growing up and in their adolescent ages, these being 10 thru 18 respectively, specifically throughout their High School years where peer pressure is at its peek, one cannot help but get into the social behaviors of the local youth surrounding them. Thus these philosophies take place in order to cope with their daily/nightly lives.
But its not the pictorial mind, in reality it brings the true experience to you and in little long term bring you the skill. it moulds your mind from physical world to the quest what else and exactly this meditating on center focal point with subconscious takes you on yor targets. Its true all. subconsciousness is the wheel to your engine or combustion chamber of your engine to take you on other planes or in subtle world. the dark arts are played around this whether subtleness or spatial ness even lightside arts too played around it. This I understood while doing divine yoga and other exercises. while lightside exercises teaches you grow subconscious with stillness in the lightworld. this is the edge over darkness. coz what the darkside aim to gain with wrong method, lght side exercises goes beyond that and beyond energy aspect. coz there is much more than energy in this subtle world and on other planes. going on that path, energy player and vampires can not harm you at all when you went in darkness. coz that time you have sufficient cover of your own conscious which come to know that energy player is around you and your level will be automatically higher than it coz you are with your own conscious strong than vampires. Even you are shielded strongly by other unknown entities too.
Psy vampire can attack only week conscious. distant Hypnotists do not give trouble to lightside exercising peepal rather helps them if they come to know this.
The total psych science is based on subject conscious. Conscious is the tool that controls mind via ordering your intellact and this way conscious is only controlling the body, if it is strong in the kin. and such kin is balance of mind they do not hasitate or divert from the subject and do the work without fear of impact once checked the plan on graph.
an with exercises of distant they can easily control others weak conscious and this way control their mind. As i said it can not be earned in one day and i told oyu the hypnotist way and there are the same things with conscious and subconscious in energy play too and even in other dark arts too. I don't know about methods of reiki and energy channeling and feeding except space energy, you may check with other energy vampire whatthey experience I dont know. But what i experienced, I did write truely. and what I exercised successfully i wrote truely. even if you do not believe this, I can provide you with the methods. it looks fantastic but there is truth of other planes too.
I will agree with ~Goddesscirce~ on this one, vampires can attack anyone at any time, no matter how weak or strong they are. Period! Nuff said!
There are level of conscious person to person.
Vampires can suck eergy of weak conscious peepal. High conscious distant player comes to know about them and they do not allow psy vampires to intrude in their own energy sphere or not let the energy flow to vampires coz they can control their own energy protected from such vampires.
Example, distant hypnotist are high conscious (strong conscious) peepal, vampires will not dare to attack them, coz if they attack them, the hypnotist will play with them. REiki player, I dont think reiki player will let their energy sucked by psy vampire. like wise woodoo doll maker can give ton to them. we have here in India such doll worker. they catches the entities and ghosts this way to catch them in doll then bury them in earthpot in the deep ground. while those entities tries bubbling in the doll trying be free only thing they can do is toss the doll but can not free from the doll.
The efficacious ability of the vampire exceeds beyond the limits of human expectations and thus tells me that individuals that roleplay know very little about certain subconscious levels that allude to the vampire way of thought.
Individuals may ascribe to the vampire on these levels and yet still know very little about the true relevance of the grander vampiric design on these levels.
Say it how the indvidual wishes, but in the end... They are simply using more terminology to discribe what they can barely comprehend, even if learned to a certain higher degree of rational thought.
I did not hear news of Dalai Lama saying he was attacked by psy vampires. Tibet peepal are very good in reiki there even one community exercise painless death when they come to know that person will die in 6 months.
He believer of Buddhism and Buddhism tells loudly the presence of Dakini and when you will read the dakini you will come to know and will not deny the psy vampires and psy yogis.
Iconography:
According to Campbell, "Iconographic representations tend to show the dakini as a young, naked figure in a dancing posture, often holding a skullcup (kapala) filled with menstrual blood or the elixir of life in one hand, and a curved knife (kartika) in the other. She may wear a garland of human skulls, with a trident staff leaning against her shoulder. Her hair is usually wild and hanging down her back, and her face often wrathful in expression, as she dances on top of a corpse, which represents her complete mastery over ego and ignorance."
note here please...
Kapala can not be having elixir of life but the blood. she served her service later to buddha.
in India Dakini is the word used for either psi vamp or for very high level yogini.
You seem to be basing your conjecture on a hypothesis of culture and teachings, and not from word of mouth. Just because I call myself a Martial Artist, does not mean I am going to follow the ways of Buddha.
My point being, you can't just call someone something and not have proof to show for it other then cultural fragments. Just because someone studies a certain concept, idealogy and or teaching, does not mean they are actually going to endeavor in worship and or practice of that teaching.
You gave a very high example and thus my consideration of lowering the scale. Thus telling the audience that all living sentient beings are created equally. No matter how high of an intelligence, or spiritual chart they have on their side.
The vampire is the vampire because they can and will bypass any charade their victim has for "protection."
(Bows in utmost reverence)
Here I just mention that psy vamps sucks energies from consciously weak persons and not from real player of conscious such as regular meditators and persons doing such art on the base of meditation and high conscious.
Actually that has been the contradiction to my point all along. Vampires will attack anyone, no matter what level of attainment they have achieved to try to block the attack. The better the challenge, the more the vampire will try. The weaker the attack, the easier the food source.
Even a Psi vampire it still is a vampire. So blood is like energy. It feeds him
Admittedly off the original topic but does pertain to response posts:
It would seem the safest place for a vampire might truly be standing on top of a table in a crowded public place screaming "I AM A REAL VAMPIRE"
I would wager most people would roll their eyes and ignore/dismiss him/her as a emo, goth, role player etc. and go on with their activities. If the vampire created enough of a ruckus the police may be called but I doubt anyone would run screaming in horror or fear.
Reading through other forum posts it would appear that the "real vampires" would never publicly proclaim they were real vampires for all sorts of reasons. If one "real vampire" violated rules, laws, regulations or a code of ethics I would think he/she would be dealt with discreetly.
~Crimsontears~ who ever said vampires were paranormal to begin with? Once again, you seem to draw your conclusions off of a fantasy world.
As well child, I am on the Council. We couldn't care less about idiocies such as those. Nuff Said!
if you were on the council you wouldnt be stupid enough to out yourself
~Crimsontears~... Smart enough to manipulate you.
It really doesn't matter about your opinion on any matter since the only babble I read that comes from your post seems literally engulfed in a fantasy world.
Paranormal vampires, councils... I am waiting to see what else you are going to come up with. Your humurous annoyance is starting to bring me to tears of laughter to say the least.
To out oneself? Where do you come up with this hokie? No one is outting themselves on any scale. The vampire would not be worried about "outting" themselves, since the media is doing just fine at getting the social population to a comfortable standpoint on the topic anywho.
So get off your high horse already. Let the adults have their fun and return to your fun filled fantasy world of make believe. Once you return to reality and start creating posts that are at least sensible, then mayhaps one of us might take you seriously.
Really you think you manipulated me? How high are you? Im not the one calling myself a vampire or laying claim that you are on the council. I at least have enough sense to point out that each race has laws.
If you only knew what really existed in this world what do you do sit at home on a computer all day and read books. You think just because you read you know shit. Please and you call me the child.
The only thing that is on the news is the Obama bullshit because people view him to be the anti-christ now that’s as much bullshit hes just a idiot. But at the same time what do I care your some dude on a screen maybe you are right your just some dude behind screen who is just full of shit.
Oh and please talk right who in there right mind says mayhaps?
*Chuckles* Each race has their own law??? Are you serious????? Since when did "race" have laws? Where do you come up with this type of crap?
Obama being the Anti-Christ on the news? I don't know what news your watching but I couldn't care less who Obama is, what he represents, or if he turns into another Bush. But wait... As terms of the TOS political views are not allowed on here, so I will stop.
As far as reading, yes. I have the intellect to read plenty of books as well as read through B.S. when I notice it. This does not make me special by any means.
Point out what ever mindless banter you wish about me, I care not. I just enjoy rocking your ship, which is manipulation in my view. Thanks for the laughs, I am having a blast playing with my food at the moment.
*Chuckles* I only threw the comment of the Council out there to see what you would say... Nuff said! I am still laughing at the "each race has its own laws" comment. One hell of an imagination you have.
As well, I know a whole hell of a lot from both reading as well as lifes experiences. Put me down all you wish, I know the truth. With this being said, I do know what goes on in this world... It would take a blind individual not to.
Carry on...
I don’t say this shit to put you down and what I meant by race was vampires werewolves witches and other creatures even humans. Race is not just what you are black asian white and other things Look dude I don’t want to fight with you all the time I have my opinions you have yours lets just stick what we both view and make comments but I seriously don’t wish to fight. Yes some of the things I said were a bit cruel and I do apologize and I can only wish you the best in life.
Have fun with whatever it is you do I will make my views and opinions and you will make yours have a laugh ive had one with yours.
For the final time... Get out of your fantasy world. Vampires, Werewolfs, Witches. These beings are not considered as races.
Vampires are a metaphor for something that society cannot understand in a medical condition in certain individuals, by a couple of definitions. I will not get into it.
Werwolfs, therians, lycan, half breed, hybrid.. These are roleplay terms, such species of whatever do NOT exist. They are simply ways that society learns to cope and deal with a certain area of life that they do not understand, such as PUBERTY.
Witches are far from a race, this is a practice. A certain area of esoterics that a few travel to. That is unless it is All Hallow's Eve and Samhain.
get your head out of your *ss already.
I couldn't care less if you wish to argue, fight or whatever. I will keep posting when I see B.S. being spewed. There will be no reconciliation if I keep seeing B.S.
Now come back to reality and actually present something according to what this thread entails and quit with your mindless fantasic posts.
How did a PSI question get so turned upside down?
I suppose one is claiming that underworld occults are fantasy of fiction and do not exist, needs some feild work on hands reseach.
Blood energy would be in my account based on the person you are taking it from, could be bad blood!
Might leave you mindfreaked in the end.
Some refer psy vampires to only cosume energy is a manner like this
When someone is angery sad happy or any emotion they feed off of that it drains a person makes them feel weak
Only a regualar vampire or one of the Nosferatus drink blood, I mispoke earlier yes blood is a form of engery but not one that a psy vampire would consume.
I really think the individual should mayhaps learn the definitions of such terms as "psi" before continueing the evaluation, discussion and or debate.