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As the range of topics has been at times from one extreme to another, there comes a time when inquiring minds wish to know; so to speak.

Some who are vampire / vampyre “let” both from themselves to worthy members of their own real family’s and take from their donors. (Large assumption here, but for this, lets says all donors are aware of their place and allow such actions of their own free will shall we.)

How do you (or your family’s respectfully) treat those who are your source of the real need and energy?

To be specific; for those who also live the existence / culture beyond a website; do you also provide such things as proper meal balances, exercise, education (if needed or wanted) and shelter to mention a few things for your subjects or do you do things differently?

If you are thinking of being a donor or letting vampire / vampyre, besides the obvious need to be healthy (free of drugs and disease) how would you yourself expected to be treated by those you will yourself to be an active part of?

Are you suggesting that possible abuse may happen within the community when it comes to the treatment of so called "donors"? That these "donors" would be seen as slaves to the vamp"y"re's? That the vamp"y"re's may not provide adequette nutrition to their "slaves" on a regular basis, that these "donors" have no free will of their own?

Come on, they are regular people with regular lives. It is always a choice to give anything to anyone else. Those of whom would feel "trapped' by others really need to get out of that situation as soon as possible before they get physically or mentally hurt. When will some learn that it is NOT a game...

Here we go again. THERE IS NO, NONE, NADA "NEED" to feed off people. Blood play is a form of fetishism, whether you are a taker or a giver. I don't care what anyone says. And if someone puts themselves into a situation such as the abusive type suggested in this thread, they really are far gone into fantasy, which is what has put them into danger in the first place. People really need to realize that living this "vampiric" lifestyle based off of Stokeresque mythology is incredibly dangerous, for both partys involved... Yes Soulshroude, you're right...this is not a game, but it's certainly not reality either.

There is a strong hint of Cult Behaviour in this thread topic. People who are Socially manipulative are very inclined to fabricate the "family" concept to converts.

When Cults have members that stray from the fold, it is common to accuse them of transgressions against the "Family". Yes, abuse happens in cults, when a cult grows in numbers resources that the leader (or top ranks) once enjoyed exclusively, are grafted into maintaining the converts. So earlier converts start to feel entitled to a share, or get jealous at others for taking attention from them.

It is good to know that at least one individual caught that little hint within the thread's subject line. Whether it is socially acceptable to call anyone "street or cult family" out of any reason at all, does not mean they may abuse any types of "privilages" given to them whether the "privilages" are unspoken or not. Unsafe practices, however taboo they may seem, or fetish in nature, could not be seen as condonable or tolerable when it involves health issues.

Thought this would have been another case of common sense...

REPOST CUT AND PASTE:

As the range of topics has been at times from one extreme to another, there comes a time when inquiring minds wish to know; so to speak.

Some who are vampire / vampyre “let” both from themselves to worthy members of their own real family’s and take from their donors. (Large assumption here, but for this, lets says all donors are aware of their place and allow such actions of their own free will shall we.)

How do you (or your family’s respectfully) treat those who are your source of the real need and energy?

To be specific; for those who also live the existence / culture beyond a website; do you also provide such things as proper meal balances, exercise, education (if needed or wanted) and shelter to mention a few things for your subjects or do you do things differently?

If you are thinking of being a donor or letting vampire / vampyre, besides the obvious need to be healthy (free of drugs and disease) how would you yourself expected to be treated by those you will yourself to be an active part of?

FURTHER EXPLAINATION IS REQUIRED NOW:

Apparently the wording of the post I put in has been taken in some slandering way. If it has, sorry, that is not the intended meaning or reasoning. Please take the time to read this post for what is hoped will be a clearer picture.

First, let me be clear when it comes to how this set of questions came about:

After several people had asked about things they themselves had seen in certain "bar" type settings, read in books or have seen in movies they thought it best to ask rather than assume. Most would call that fact finding or seeking a truth of knowledge....something I'm sure most, if not all will agree is a very good idea.

Second, it is far past degrading to assume that anyone outside of those attempting to 'live out a fantasy' would actually intend to do harm to another human being in a manner long associated with the vampire / vampyre culture itself. As it was put to me before posting as I did; and I quote nearly word for word, "You guys (meaning anyone in the vamp life) just take what you want from who you want and toss 'em aside right"? MY answer was NO, we don't. Then it was asked, "Then why is it always presented that way"? I gave my own explaination to them covering media, money, fantasy...the things that sell.

Third, it is agreed whole heartedly that any form of abuse against anyones free will is not tolerable, thus the pointed treatment of others. As they (the ones who asked) have again seen in movies and read in books the myths of wild drug abuse, partying, slavery and gloated feeding by people chained to walls, rafters etc. I again pointed out that this was theater type things to sell a story and make money. The real life of it is much different, more "family" in nature than destruction as scenes of screens would have one believe.

The social ordering within a family is dependant upon them, not a script and those who "let" need to be aware of many things, including those mentioned and more.

The needless "y" vs "i" is simply a term of spelling and respect for those who use either version. It is pointless to continuely seperate it as such when it comes right down to it. Vampire / Vampyre .... Pomegranate / Palmegranate .... Wind-Shield / Wind-Screen. I think I've covered the spelling and meaning well enough for clarity now.

In a nutshell, what the post is asking is not about a right or wrong in letting vs. non-letting; but rather the real life structures vs. what so many "precieve" to be as real... (per·ceive (p r-s v) tr.v. per·ceived, per·ceiv·ing, per·ceives. 1. To become aware of directly through any of the senses, especially sight or hearing.)

Besides the questions asked, I also figured that this post may also fall in line with the "documentary" post also in the forum while covering yet again, as has been done several times over the years; the NEED to be aware of the pro's and con's of letting in general. And NO, letting does NOT make you or anyone a vampire / vampyre.

I'll hope this sheds a better light on the actual intent of the post and see what comes next. If in fact it requires further explaination, and the post is allowed to continue as intended, not as a flame sesson in waiting, I'll be happy to give it further attention.

Long story short, the poster of this thread is attempting to make some sort of seriousness arrive out of a society that has been mocked from day one.

Vampires, no matter what spelling NEVER reveal their feeding habits, nor need DONOR's. Those who do reveal their so called habits and slander the term "donor" with taking advantage of others, are NOT vampire. They are simply fetish seeking individuals.

The term family does NOT cooberate with the real vampire. Only those within a distinct "community" who call themselves vampire for lack of a better term, call one another family as like basing the metaphor out of some sort of religious context, ie we are all brothers and sisters of the same God, etc.

Therefore, to create such a long thread post trying to explain the context to which this thread needs to lead to is irrelevant since the main topic of this thread seems to be about "safety issues" within a "family" environment when dealing with those who wish to help in the task of giving their "blood", ie blood"letting."

There really are no differences when it comes to the "family" scenerio and blood-"lettting", safety precautions need to be adhered to at all times. Only those who would take advantage of the "donors" are the irrisponsible ones and may be dealt with by local authorities if the need arises out of physical harm to the "donor" themselves, and with the "donors" descretion.

Without taking this thread too far out of context, I will close my post with... If one were to take vampirism too seriously, they need to find professional help regarding a mental status as there is no real need for BLOOD unless one has a physiological condition to which medical professional ALWAYS help in the matter, ie aenimia, phorpheria, etc. Otherwise, one is just a FETISH-ist who needs to learn certain methods of getting their "fix."

Nuff said!

my family nevere understood my needs or desireses, het never bliev==ieved in what i said of did. or if tey caught me doing somethiing against the church good help me.