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markus666
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18:46:06 Sep 19 2010
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Men always are trying to get ahead of the Game. For many, to belongs to an Organization, is life. But, what is behind that Organization? Power, money, Knowledge, wisdom? We don’t know. The Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation that arose from obscure origins in the late 16th to early 17th century. The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (or, more commonly, the Golden Dawn) was a magical order active in Great Britain during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, which practiced theurgy and spiritual development. It has been one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism. Concepts of magic and ritual at the center of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca and Thelema, were inspired by the Golden Dawn. Rosicrucianism is the theology of a secret society of mystics, said to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz. It holds a doctrine "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm

Now, Do you believe, that those involved in these group are ahead of the normal Human Being?

Do you believe that by joining them, you will find a better understanding of life in General.

Please, respond and express your opinion. Thanks!!




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Kagato
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20:36:52 Sep 19 2010
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I don't think that people are better because they are in a sect. I think that people join to fit in. Yes back years ago those groups held a lot of power. But now most groups are just there to help raise money for a good cause.



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UpirLikhyj
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21:13:01 Sep 19 2010
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Well stated, Kagato; I agree entirely. Organized groups are almost always far more about the social benefits than they ever are about the actual spiritual progress able to be achieved in them. Now, when such organizations are positive, they can do much social good. Of course, nothing can do more evil, either, than groups organized for such purposes. All too often acts and atrocities no single man would ever do alone are far too easily engaged in when considered as a group. Thus, it is very critical that one be very careful of the groups with whom one aligns oneself.

The other component to consider is that all groups have leaders to whom each member is to greater or lesser degrees subordinate. Thus, again, great care should be taken before choosing to subordinate yourself to yet another hierarchy in life.

In my opinion, where true spiritual and philosophical progression is concerned, all such occurs best from within and then exercised and put into practice without our fellow beings here in mortality.


- Upir'



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dabbler
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21:39:50 Sep 19 2010
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I share the social network concept as well.

It never hurts to have a shared perspective on spirituality either.

a group bond by spirituality is far less likely to have underlying hostilities develop.



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LordWolf
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21:58:48 Sep 19 2010
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if group makes a person a better person, the great

if it does little or nothing, the i dont see the point.
~W~



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dabbler
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22:01:57 Sep 19 2010
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I figure the great accountability among members is crucial to that achievement. In most mainstream faiths their is lax accountablity, and the conversion is so hap hazard.



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FateUnseen
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04:46:44 Sep 20 2010
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absolutely. if you have accountability and your organization is well run then it should be a good experience for the individual members. without order, all organizations religious or otherwise will fail



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venumstings
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09:11:16 Sep 20 2010
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(Bows in utmost reverence)

Well, if any fraternity, occult, or organization is formed for good cause, no hesitation should remain in joining them. This will lead to better personality, better thought process, better spirituality and harmony. These peepal lives their life in tranquility.



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markus666
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03:17:36 Sep 23 2010
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But, most of the time, The women and children are always oppressed and they don't have any rights within the Sect or group. They are most like object.



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dabbler
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03:47:55 Sep 23 2010
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Family is placed in a dominate position in the creeds of most spiritual fraternities, what worth is a man that pledges to others, that cannot honor his blood, and kin?

Though I recall an article that required members to not marry, but father with discretion.. *strains to remember where I read that..



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