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A book was released by Madeline X a self proclaimed vampire who became human for love.
She gave a spell on how to become a vampire and with out going into detail they believed she was a vampire for a couple of reasons.
Looking at the spell im not sure how it would work, there’s a lot of raw food involved and the chants are not common” Pen-an-galan. Fen-an-galan. For-or-galan. Bead-a-LEE”
Saturdays are also out of the question… being a chaos mage im adapting this spell(bit like the borg of magic)lol
An owl idol also is needed, not sure if this is lilith related or demon as most satanic would know about the worship to the great owl demon or bohemian ritual.
Funny as it may seem there are ways to become it seems, this is just one spell… there are more and some very positive results.

Do you know of any magic spells that offer the ability to become a vampire




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if you mean the undead being walking around, allergic to sunlight, blood drinker kind of vampire, no i don't think there are any spells for it. To be honest, the raw food isn't really that safe, even if you go out of your way to get clean meat. Raw meat is just too much of a carrier for ....... idk, diseases, viruses, etc. have you ever thought of looking through the Vampire Codex? They offer a more accepted view of vampirism.

i don't think becoming a vampire is such an easy thing that you can just say a spell and bam you got it.



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~Lav~, you and I both know a spell is gibberish unless the individual gives it energy. Words are words, nothing more nothing less...Until said power is instilled within. Even if said spell speaks of nonesense and rubbish. Such as spell, could mentally disturb an individual if they are not careful and do not know what they are doing.

On a personal level, I speak with Madame X on a regular basis and have drawn several conclusions of which I will not state here out of confidence. But I will say, she has done a great job at earning money from yet another book. Whether or not this book is truth or fiction? Viewers descretion. Just another book to add to the library if you ask me.



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Lol
Shoulshroude …. Keeping egs after extracting lightning from them n eating vinegar liver for real is junk spell… not to mention 7 day continuous spell with no Saturday … I just live in hope lol
I was hoping to force a hand for some one to have knowledge above ours ….



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What is the name of the book? I would like to peek at that for sure.



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i have indeed not heard of any spells to make one Vampire and would love to know the name of this Book just to looking and see how this is done.


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http://www.vampires.nu/pages/Books.cfm/ID/1409/PageID/22

good for the book case... not right spell wise



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I think love is the answer as Alister Crowley said love is the law love under will.
I feel a desire to find love will cause eternal damnation
Still that’s enough info…. Lets see what the crowd has to give?
Please someone must be looking and not waiting for the neck ripping bit … have you seen the mess that much pressure makes?



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Ah yes, I remember a conversation over the creation of this book, I did not think she was serious about it. Ah well.

I do give her credit as she is in the process of creating a Donor's Resource Book or something along those lines.



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Vampires being part of the occult, function often the same or similar as a Witch or magickal practioner. Especially psychic vampires. Feeding on another can be a learned ability and may take skill and practice, just like any spell or ritual would. But a spell to become a vampire is not something I believe would work.



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~Nyxx~ the spells would merely work on a mental level, transforming the mind out of manipulation, the caster would take to heart the controls of the spell by being manipulated into thinking the spell worked.

Physical feats such as the transformation from human into any shapeshifting creature is purely fiction.



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Oh, I absolutely agree there. I don't think physical transitioning of any kind can be rendered by a spell or something of the like. And as far as mental manipulation, that can be said for just about anything. "I believe, therefore I am." But say you have a willing party seeking to be transformed by a spell. They are open to this concept, and after said ritual, they take on certain attributes of a vampire because they "believe" they have been turned. Does this mean that they actually are a vampire now because they think they are?



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I just really see a spell to become a vampire as something along the lines of hypnosis. The mind can be tricked, but it doesnt make it true.



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I'd be more interested to know that you tried the spell Lav and what happened lol



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The "I think therefore I am" concept would be a premiss for many occult thinkers in this day and age...Even the ages of old. Ritual scenerios would give the individual a mental boost of confidence and nothing more. The "power" if you will, being induced on that mental level which is why most "dark mages" (even though there really is no such thing as black or white since all is nuetral) crave and strive to create that perfect escence around them.

A disposition or dark half of Alchemy would be a good analogy for certain ritual context. Changing the mental awareness into that of a "creature of the night" instead of a higher "god self" atmosphere. Compelling is it not?



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hmmm raw meat gibberish. it sounds like to be honest the person who wrote it knew what would sell and pay her bills.

However that is what an average person sees *snickers*
What I see minus the words and some of the limitations Im curious what this spell over all shows on the ritualistic side.



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Hi Sinora
I WANT TO DRINK YOUR BLOOD lol
The children of the night what music they do make….

Yeh nothing happened with the spell, looks like part voodoo and part poisoning.



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Real vampss do exist just not as the movies depict...but a spell to become one ..i don't believe it to be possible...vampires are born not made



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I looked in my spell book and all I could find is vampire repelants and causes of vampyrism. Not how to create one.
The book lists these as possible causes:

- Inadequate, improper funeral rites potentially create vampires.
- There is a contagious quality to being a vampire. One vampire infects, initiates and creates another. Having been attacked by a blood-sucking vampire, according to this school of thought, one either becomes a vampire oneself or dies.
- Bram Stoker conflated his Dracula legend with tales of Vlad the Impaler, Ruler of Trasylvania. In actual Transylvanian folklore, illegitimate sons, born outside Church-sanctionned marriages are doomed to become vampires.
- Ukrainian folklore perceives vampires as the inevitable result of sexual relations between witches and werewolves.
- According to other legends, those born on Christmas Day are potentially future vampires.
- Some spirits are believed to be innately vampiric, transcending rhyme or reason.

It doesn't offer any spell to become one though. Even though it lists 5000 spells for any other purpose.



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Well it does sound like an interesting read if nothing else, lol. I've never heard of a true spell to change one to a vampire myself, but I can not say that there is not one out there that works.



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LOL I do not think there is such a spell yet one could only hope I presume, to be able to do such things. I will be reading this it sounds interesting actually. thanks for the link :)



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I don't think that there would be such a spell. Becoming a vampire is more chemical than anything.



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Immortality would not be this easy to get at, this woman seems to be out for only money.

Otherwise, vampires would be the majority and everything would return to what can be perceived as "normal" now. Nothing would change, except that we all would live on the remaining human population, which would be treated like cattle.

If she truly was a vampire with powers and everything and that she gave it all up for love (a noble cause, by the way) she could may have obscured the ritual because she doesn't want an army.



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Another thing: The word Pen-an-galan used in one of the rituals. Sounds a LOT like Pennagalan, an *always* female vampiric entity that when the night rises in full, her head detaches from her body and all her intestines follow it, the whole piece is quite macabre. It floats and searches for victims.


If I go from purely this notion, this spell *perhaps* might elude to the transformation into one of these things, meaning that if the sorcerer was in fact MALE, their body would transmute to the other gender. The individual would have to also soak their engorged internal organs with vinegar apparently, to fit it ALL back into her body.

When you look up more on this type of vampire, you realize that this creature is not the stylish Anne Rice vampire, rather Nosferatu would be more alike to this female entity.



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I found the following information from the following link:
http://www.spells4free.com/Article/Vampire-transformation-/1157


Vampire transformation.
By: Anju X

Chant this as you mix the blood, the water, and your strand of hair together in a bowl.

Magic, Magic, enter unto me. Vampire transformation, is what it shall be.
Bring me the powers, bring me the feeling.Bring me what I desire, So mote it be!

Before you say "So mote it be!" pour the water onto the candle, putting out the flame.

Article Source: http://www.spells4free.com


one drop of your own blood. one strand of your hair. one candle [white would be best]. 2 tablespoons of water from any stream.





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I am not sure which type of vampire the spell is talking about cause there are more then one type of real Vampires. I do not really believe in the undead living forever types it is possible I guess but I have yet to come in contract with one. I would be interested to see and be able to compare the real and the hollywood versions.

I believe the power vampires are able to be created in a way because i think we all how the power to due magic you just need to waken it. you need to believe in yourself and your own power understand yourself. Your power is known only by your inner self. No one can open that door and release it but you.



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I would think that if one truly discovered a spell to create a vampyre, they would not wish to publish it and give it away, for such a spell would be very precous and should not be given lightly to anyone.



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Doru, that ritual has potential. Of course, willpower must be used in copious amounts for the magick to work.

It is all a force of will.



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Thank you virtous for your search and Doru.
Well well Macabre thanks for the speed bump Malaysian folklore vampire… interesting very interesting. You see part of the ritual involves vinegar parts then eaten raw and if the master finds you fit it will take you to become a vampire.
That’s partly what a pennagalan has to do to get back into her body after separating her internal organs to find food or love… what better than a meal already vinegary n slightly pickled , ah this makes a little more sense … the parts of the spell must be what attracts that form and the idol a sign .. maybe there’s a little more to the spell than voodoo … looks like attraction…. I guess I will have to fly to Malaysia



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As in any spell... it is the energy you put into it... ~bows~



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Has anyone got info on the Pennagalan



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A spell to create a vampire.....
I just don't see how that could happen. If it was possible, then there would be a spell to make anything and all things and that would almost put us on "God" levels. It just seems too simple to me. But as said before...anything is possible. :D



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People read the necronomican written as fiction, they read something (as if it was real) that says reading this will drive you mad.. they do and they read it in all seriousness, they do go mad they actually believe it to be real. Madame X is surely a vampire.. I mean she can suck money out of people , no doubt in my mind she can suck a persons other resources dry as well.



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Well Jesus could resurrect the dead and nobody thought he went mad. (if you believe that stuff and no offense to anyone if they do) :D



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Oh I did find your post... Smothered in possibilities.. what a sad way to live, imagination will set you free from your binds, a speel to bring you out of your astonishment for all shiny concepts



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I imagine that a potion/spell to become a vampire would be convenantly
stored with the spell/potion to become human then, .. hmm.. how conveniant for a person that claims to be a vampire, and crafts the image, when she is seen in public during the day.



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Thats true, if there is a spell to become then there must be one to become un-vampire also, or maybe to become a werewolf? It seems a little fishy when ya think about it, but it may have potentail, anything is possible.



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Funny as it seems a spell to make you a vampire, the method looks like a way of prepping you or attracting a type of vampire. When finished it will come and ether take you or ignore you … so I guess a method in the madness for sure.
Bit like how to bait a hook but if your river has no fish in it… pointless lol



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do you all truly believe of this if so show me someone who have cast this spell and became a vampire and i will go check this book out myself



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Not saying "i" believe it, but i don't rule out anything. To me everything has it's possibilities of happening depending on how strongly someone is willing to believe in what they are doing to keep trying until something actually happens. I wonder what KIND of vampire though? *ponders*



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I think Madeline X should spend some off all that money from her booksale on a good psychiatrist or two.

As for spells to turn one into a vampire. I have never heard of any, it seems far fetched and the spell and what it involes is great book material but I doubt it will work in real life.

As for imageing it. The power of suggestion is very strong and if people believe in it, it is up to them, but a "real" undead blood sucking handsome vampire, no way.



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I think it's a good thought and possible story that was put together but I have not ever heard of a spell to turn you into a vampire. I also think if there was we'd hear more about it.



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I just really see a spell to become a vampire as something along the lines of hypnosis. The mind can be tricked, but it doesnt make it true.



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Indeed I Do! I would direct all to my journal and the spell on creating a werewolf. It will also create a vampire simply alter the spell to use all black candles!



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My only comment on this post is that of which has already been stated, just saying the words anyone can do, anyone can add things together and says things over them its all in how you do it and where it comes from inside you.
enough said.



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Well if anyone finds a spell and turns themselves into a vampire, come see me. I hafta see this to believe it.

*sharpens up my wooden stakes and gets the video cam ready*



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A vampire can not ever change not even for love but...
I do belive they can love and be true to love



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There is a very intent ritual
that has to be peformed by eldors and vampire master
and your body has to be almost drained there are others that stand around besides the vampires,
waiting for the blood that was drained, once the blood is draind the vampire drains his mixes your blood with his and puts it back in your body and completes the ritual. Long process



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Trikki
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What is the name of this ritual and where can I find more info regarding it? This is something I most definitely want to read about. Got a link for inquiring minds?



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Wow that sounds very film made satansbride.lol

Im still a firm believer that a broken heart will pass death grasp and at any price



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I don't know of any in real life.

However, in the Manga Series 'Negima! Minister Negi Mage' [or Mahou Sensei Negima] the character Eva A.K. McDowell was turned into a vampire with some sort of magic spell.



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I`ve tried the spell but it doesn`t seem to work.Well, at least my hunger for blood didn`t increased since.
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I think it is aimed at attracting a different type of vampire most know about and indigenous in an other country… the spell is bait for the creature if it’s near you will know



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Never tried it Kaddaver, well thank you for sharing that insight lol
Would you try it if you had the book?



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This is a tricky question... because... I like the ideea of being agile, being able to live for a long time and all the others.. but when it comes to blood drinking I see it as a minus.. with all that said.. of course I WILL try it :D

how about you ?



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Closest thing I found were some old Voodoo incantations.



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posion - Try self research?



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I think she means turned around ... lol.



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Yes midnights love the spell does border on food poisoning for sure… I still think it is bait to attract said being to you … as in the end it says if the master finds you pleasing you will be turned



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so is anyone willing to post said spell here? for viewing and reference purposes...its great to have it in a book, but id rather not spend the money on a book if its spells are dodgy....



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well i have never heard of a spell turning people in to a vampire nor do i think they can.
but i do how ever think a person can become one not in a fictional way but by there on choice and mind set.



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no im not going to post it as it might be a little too much for most on VR.
still the book is cheap and great for any collector of said material.



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infernalmage -


I doubt there really is a spell for it.



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I found this to be an interesting reading on the topic:

Spells to Become a Vampire





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distortion
http://www.vampires.nu/pages/Books.cfm/ID/1409/PageID/22

try reading the whole thread lol



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lavisbre -


My last post was basically in regards to your last post ;]



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Sorry distortion … didn’t get what you meant as the original post that started the threads shows the book?



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I meant to the first part of ...


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Vampire spell
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no im not going to post it as it might be a little too much for most on VR.



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sorry distortion
text is so void of expression and clarity sometimes like a tomb
as with VR rules im carful of what I post and say as this spell could give food poisoning for sure in the method it is used.
As a chaos magic user Im adapting it …. To make it safer to try….. just wanted to see who in our community was knowledgeable in such arts… and also was shocked at the lack of as well



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since vampires are not real i dont see a spell tuning someone into a vamp



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i've never come across spells that could turn you. but i know that some may exist.
most just turn from their sire.
soo, if there is a spell method to turn those of us, it is likely used by our sire??



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i think a spell of this sort would merely change the mind aspect, but not the physical form.. only make him so he wouldnt crave the blood.



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i cant say a spell wouldnt work, not saying the one in the book would either. Looking at it this way the actual blood drinking animated undead vampire started somehow. What created the first real vampyre? a spell, curse, diety? something created what has turned into the romanticized lifestyle. . .and it wasnt just an Anne Rice novel.



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ive never actually tried a spel, vampire are chosen i believe. if we were meant to be one we would be. alas, were human, we must live with that.



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I have read lots of books who talk about the subject but I have never actually seen an actual spell.



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Vampire spells, seems so tacky, is the only word I can think of. I am a vampire junkie, love any type of vampire lore. I however haven't ever heard in any stories I've read, heard of transformation by spell. We all know , history shows, vampires are born by their makers, with biting, draining and returning to their undead of their own blood. Is the way to make a vampire. So spell, schmell!



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Personally the vampire story has been fueled by the church so much, why else would the church have power to deal with vamps…..
True vampires are not as you may think



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there is one way to become a vampire and that is to be turned, ther eis no spell to make you a vampire.



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Im not so sure….. witches are doomed by the church to become vampire in our death… do you think it’s cause were cursed or we know a spell or two?



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I really belive its cursed, no one would make a spell to techincilly live forever because that would need to much power. vampirism is a curse because it is never how anyone wants it to be.



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I love this thread. It is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Is it some lady name Madeline X or are we speaking of "Madame X?" You cannot make a vampire but you could make a servitor. No one can be turned except by Winged Wolf's standards. It is just helping someone awaken to what they already are. You can do anything and call it magick but that doesn't mean it will work. As far as Madame X, Soulshroude knows what I would have to say about that if she is involved...save your money.



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At first I thought the same…. However it does have a history and is linked with a particular type of vampire… and further logic based on this vampires myth…. It would attract it to you.

All you need now is a strong stomach and a real vampire.
As for transforming you… no this spell doesn’t.



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I don't know.... I've never heard of a spell that could turn you into a vampire... It sounds a bit far-fetched to me.....



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I think it sounds far fetched as well. I dunno. I think I may have seen something like this in a horror movie once...



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Well thanks for your input and yes I wouldn’t be surprised if it has been in a film, a book that contains dark knowledge is a nice plot filler for films lol
And yes if sounds far fetched … just like any ghost stories.
So are there any people who seek vampires and studies myths have an opinion, oh and have read the book… or got something similar ?



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I spose I can add some hopefully useful imput to this conversation Ive been reserving for a later thread.


In the steps of Russia, what is termed "White Russia" there is a belief that is held, and along many of the shaman tribes up there that any sorcerer, wizard, witch immediately upon death becomes a vampire. Although a nice idea not necessarily true. Please read the history of Rasputin however and im not to convinced otherwise..

Anyway the point this thread is that there are a number of Rites and Ceremonies I have found throughout the different Eras in my research. There are alot of modern day translations of which give a number of demonic formula for evocation, pacts, and offerings to no less then 5 different demons.



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I think I am going to peek at that book, but as for it being real, I highly doubt it. I have a problem believing in vampires, although they interest me greatly, and the idea of a vampire is amazing. I don't think they are the walking dead, never age, immortals living on the blood of us humans, and can't go out in the sun without burning Hollywood myth kind of creature. It goes against the laws of nature. As for other qualities, such as siphoning energy from others, now that I do believe. Interesting concept. I have got to check that out.

I would remind those who actually try that spell, to use caution. Especially if you do not know what you are doing.



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i dare say though, that it would be wonderful to be able to call one, or attract one to me, if it was a real one... I have many questions about general magicks and such, if its different for them, etc. haha, we never know what is up in this world if we go that route.



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quite honestly i do not know if these spells can be considered adequate. Vampires usually become vampires after they are sought out or turned by another. Some are born that way if their parents were both vamps, but a spell...im not so sure of



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I seriously doubt that a "spell" can adjust the human body so much. Think about it, if that spell worked then surely there would be numurious spell's to get what you want.
I'm more in love with the theory that you have to be bitten to become a vampire, but seeing as no evidence exists of there existance, then no one in the world could possibly be one!



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I agree with alot of people here . I also find it hard to believe that vampires exist. I like the fantasy and tales from the films, This is how I would believe vampires are turned if they did exist. To be bitten or born ny vampire parents. I have never heard of anything of a vampire spell. I fid it highly unlikely.



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Oh dear, some of you have lost your minds. lol
Not to be mean and I am surely not trying to sound like a "know it all" but really if you think that all you need to do is say some little randy dandy made up words to become a vampire. Then you have most definetly turned into some sort of weirdo. lol. Haven't any of you heard of death. Words can't honestly kill someone unless they are in the midst of a stroke.

If vampires are real then they can turn you. Just walk around a cemetary or in the depth of the forest with a sign on your back saying "Turn Me!" lol. Just kidding.
But seriously words can't change your state of being.

SINcerely Rebecca♫♪



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Well if anyone has read the spell you will know it is more than some words…oh how I love the assumptions of this forum



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I think it would raise more questions than provide answers. Why would one take the easy unproven way to become vampire/human? Personally, I find the journey more stimulating than the actual result.

If it were me, I'd want to experience what it feels like to be bitten and note what it feels like to have your blood drained from you, in the knowledge it would turn me into a virtually immortal, perchance, perpetual being (given that such creatures could exist). Or in the other direction, if a vampire could be turned to human, I could imagine the pains of re-birth into the world of the living.



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Personaly i don't think a nice little spell will make you into a vampire, i think it may take just alittle more then a few words..



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