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The Aokigahara forest is a grim place indeed.for generations,people have been going into the forest,never to come out again.Why? Because when someone goes there,they are normally going to commit suicide.
Its been said that this forest has an omnious feel,is deathy quiet and is overall,just plain creepy.
I know there are many places of "power" and of strange energies around the world,but this forest seems to be in a class of its own.
In 2009,there were 2,645 suicides recorded .And the number has risen since.

Mt Fugi is supposed to be a gateway into other dimensions,and it has also been noted that this forest has an unusally high geomagnetic activity..

What are your thoughts on this place?

I saw this last night on television so, it's no surprise to find this topic here today.

To me, it is (once again) just people making a bigger deal out of something when it is not necessary.

So, people go to a forest to commit suicide.

Do people not go to Vegas to get married?

"Well, people don't all intend on committing suicide when they go to this forest!"

Yea well, not everyone who goes to Vegas INTENDS on getting married while they're there either.

Sorry, just no mystery in this for me.

Thank you for your imput.:) You have brought up some good points.

Im thinking along the lines of affects of geomagnetics..that the fear and such that people feel there is induced by it.It stands to reason,because of the areas volcanic activity etc...
If someone is already distraught when they go there,the GMA only makes it worse.

Perhaps, they just really like the scenery and would like to die there more than any other place on Earth.

I mean really, I saw the footage of this place and to be honest, it looks like my kind of place. Not to mention, humans (apparently) don't last long there. I could finally be alone.

It would be interesting to find out.If I had the time,I would go,just to see for myself.

Its interesting though,and Im thinking that a study in the areas GMF could help us understand and see how these feilds can have such a profound affect on us and other animals.
There are many places of power that ellicit these type of feelings.
Any thoughts on the "portal" thing?

I would factor in accessibility, and location of the forest. Is it central to a populated area? These factors could well explain the frequency of traffic. In Japan there is also a high rate of suicide by bullet train.

Folks love patterns. It is inherent in alot of people to follow what others have done before them. (Not speaking "blindly" here, but more along the lines of tradition, etc)

It's entirely possible, that much in the way that many peoples will/have commune(d) in shelters or common grounds to pray or worship/offer sacrifice to diety; people might also just feel that this is the place that they are "supposed" to go to commit suicide.

Almost like a "suicidal holy ground" if you will.

Greetings

I didn't see this on television but I am familiar with Jukai.

I was born in Japan (Fukaoka) in 1955..my Father was a "Diplomat"
having worked with the OSS during WWII. When the OSS evolved into the CIA he evolved with it and was stationed in Japan up until 1968, he helped to "rebuild" relations between the two countries, although there was obviously more involved especially with the royal family of Japan. I grew up there, went to school there, got my ass kicked on more than one occasion there (between the ages of 7 and 8...some people just didn't like round eyes...hmmm, wonder why (sarcasm) studied martial arts there (between the ages of 6 and 12 - didn't fight back between 7-8 because I was instructed not to...it would bring shame upon the instigators and their families..something which I understood more clearly as time went on) The same individuals are good friends of mine who I have stayed in touch with over the expanse of 40 years.

I grew up hearing the stories of Jukai or Aokigahara forest and read the novel Nami no To in the early 70's which is a Detective/Mystery novel..by the way...many of his works are now in English and if you are into Mystery and Detective novels these books by Seicho Matsumoto are a must read. Don't know if I can post these on VR or not but everyone interested in this genre should give him a read you'll be pleasantly satisfied.

Anyway; the following is a basic foundation for the forces which might explain why for centuries people have gone into Jukai and never returned...Was the intent suicide? or just a place to go think, a quiet place filled with spirits and demons...I choose to believe that the spirits which reside within Jukai are malevolent entities and either edge people on to commit suicide in a subtle fashion using suggestion within the mind or as a apparition driving one into the depths of their own mortality and giving up on life. If you have studied anything at all about Japanese history and their way of life, their morals and beliefs etc...etc..then you can understand the reasoning behind the attitudes and issues of their society and culture.

Please utilize your intuition by putting 2 and 2 together when trying to understand the dynamics behind folklore and fact and spirits, demons and energy. Even consider parallel dimensions.



Dragon Lines: Another term for leylines, normally used in the orient, specifically Japan, China, India and Tibet. The Dragon symbolizes the kundalini force. Dragon lines are referred to in the orient as the kundalini energy of the living earth.

Dragon Leyline: Connecting Mount Fuji to Mount Kahlish in Tibet.

Vortex: A circular swirling motion of energy. A vortex will in general be characterized by the direction of motion as clock wise or counterclockwise; and the direction relating to the earth surface, either an outward flow (electrical) or inward pull (magnetic).

Electrical Vortex: A classification of vortex that spirals energy from inside the earth. Electrical vortexes can vary in diameter from a few feet wide to mega vortexes, such as Sedona and Lake Titicaca. The latter is up to 75 miles in diameter.

Magnetic Vortex: A classification of vortex that pulls energy inward from above into the earth. Magnetic vortexes are less frequent that electrical vortexes, and are generally larger in diameter.

Electromagnetic Vortex: A vortex exhibiting both inward and outward energy sources. These are generally a vortex inside a vortex.

Telluric: Relating to the earth. Telluric energies are earth energies, earth electricity. A naturally occurring phenomenon. Telluric energy has a 'male' and female aspect. This can be thought of as yin and yang.





These and other influences create a pathway for generating electricity, which travels above and below the surface layers of the Earth. These electric currents form a worldwide system of electrical eddies. Frequently the geomagnetic field is altered by changes in these currents, and these currents fluctuate inversely with changes in the magnetic field, demonstrating a definite mutual relationship. An actual physical connection exists between the magnetic field, these electric currents and life on the Earth (GMF-telluric-superconducting- electrostatic interrelationships).

All good points to consider,thanks for the responses.

Dab,I would certainly agree,but evidently this forest has been used for a very,very long time for this.
Im not sure how convienient it was to get to back then,and there were a lot more forests to choose from.

I do like the tradition aspect of it though,and it could very well have a major roll in its use for suicide.

Here, The Golden Gate Bridge is known for its suicides. Other than the above mentioned patterns that people like to follow, I must say that the place has a beautiful eerie and sometimes sad quality about it. The fog enhances it.

If I wasn't on so many meds, I would probably still be suicidal too, but I would love to end it in a beautiful forest. Somewhere peaceful and quiet like when an animal tries to be alone when death approaches. There is no place like that where I live though.

where the atmosphere is sunny and bright people tend to be more positive. Where it's darker there's a more quiet or melancholy atmosphere. This has been noted in several studies

Any one thought about Qliphah the tree of death?
Just as we know there are two sides to a coin and According to Genesis it is true that there were two sacred trees in the Garden of Eden one was the tree of life and the Qabbalah is based on it. Could this be the materialization of the tree of death Qliphah.

I have noticed areas that have considerable amounts of death *example* vlad the empailers castle, the tuberculosis hospital in Louisville kentucky called Waverly Hills Sanatorium that started in 1910 and closed in 1962 that counted over 10,000 deaths... so on and so forth... have always had a sad, grimm, depressing feelings to it... usually the more deaths the worst it is... but there must have been alot of deaths that went down... or a major tragidy that took place... that desrupted alot of emotions... causing dispare and vulnerability and fear for those who were lost there... i dont know anything about the history there but i do know that it takes a major event, especially for that place, if it is causing ppl to become sooo sad that they feel that they must end themselves.... and for every year that passes for that place, if the deaths remain constant, then it will just become worse.

now as for mt fugi. thats a completely different subject... like the burmuda triangle and such... that should just be a completely different thread all together because there is just soo much involve with it

Maybe it is the plants, like in that movie The Happening.

Maybe it is the plants… im still going with tree of death. Lol
It is suggested that this trend started after a book called “Black Sea of Trees” where two of his characters committed suicide there. Mind you dogs tend to do the same in Scotland at The Overtoun Bridge. A lot of dogs kill themselves. I wonder as Psyvamp mentions that places have vibes. And some people or animals might well be tuned into that death feel and end it or they feel the west gate door open and go through.

These are all excellent points.thank you for posting them.I am going to look into the Tree of death thing too.

I know how certain places can make us feel so sad or down..Im still holding onto the whole GMF thing on that.

One thing that I found interesting is that while you mentioned the tree of death Lav,it has been said that many believe the trees of that forest absorb the dead and their souls.

Hi Oceanne and NeverrNeverrmore … where does one start to explain this lol .. the Qliphoth is something quite few occultist have wrote about over the decades. More your lefthand path of magic. In ceremonial magic we learn of the tree of life and a who system is built upon it called Qabbalah .. part of the system you might know as Tarot. Tarot is a successful marriage of a card game and is a Muslim slave game merged with the tree of life or Qabbalah system. QLPh, in Hebrew “to peel off,”.” Qliphah, therefore, means in Hebrew, a shell or the outer covering of sorts. When applied to the Qabbalah it has been variously interpreted as a kind of afterbirth or discarded element of godly creation. It could even be defined as a previously failed attempt at creation (an abortion). Choronzon is said to be a guardian of the tree so those who know or have read John Dee Enochian diary’s or like me practice Enochian magic, knows this dude is the one who lives in the abyss and is very very negative and bad. So the tree being a negative abomination of creation is a door way of sorts. You can read more from Kenneth Grant books I guess and the rest in special books I have .. I shall dig them out and give names.. mind you most are hard to find and only so many made.

Ok I don’t share the idea of hell and heaven some might. I also know angels and demons are of the same design and both have good n bad having worked the key of Solomon and Enochian magic.
Most people have a view of nice looking angels with wings and some with a suit of armor.. well some are just wheels within wheels and lots of eyes and some are so bright they need six wings to cover themselves or there burn you to an ash and you don’t want to know what a cherubim really looks like. Lol

So the tree of life is a way to attain enlightenment and spiritual enlightenment. If you believe in tarot then you notice just using this system of the tree as it is infused in tarot works to give you visions and spookily correct answers to life.

So a tree of death.. forest .. dead people.. Choronzon is a huge negative and angered entity. Id say to get things talking here those who are suicide are dealing badly with negativity of there lifes. So if the tree is here and the biggest magnet of negativity is there .. just a thought. or all those death can stain an area thus attracting this ancient one know to secret orders such as OTO, GD, A.:A.: and so forth.

I think people are attracted to what they need … ie hungry down town you can go eat something you really crave. Commit suicide one like it to be clean and neat.. nothing clean and neat about that woods.. even on the brightest days it is said in places to be as black as midnight, last sweep of the place they found 72 dead and know there is so many more. I was just looking at someone’s photos of the place with lots of poor dead people hanging from the trees and skulls on the ground from bodies not yet found.. oh and lots of signs telling people not to give up.

So no matter how you want to believe, in a country known not for depression due to eating fish( true stories eat fish more than four times a week and omega 3 from fish and you will not suffer depression) I find the amount of deaths ether caused by something else or opening a west gate to death there, after all ritual magic is ritual magic and the ritual of hanging will stain time and the area. It’s an ancient form of ritual sacrifice. And Choronzon is ancient and good at this…..

...is just a quiet and beautiful place, where you can go and end this so called life. Yes, for some is something bad, but, for those who has decided to end their life, is like a train station, and the train is always there, waiting for the masses.

Sorry markus666 have you seen this forest lol
Far from nice n beautiful. Im sticking to open portal due to the amount attracted lol

Some people do choose quiet places to end their lives because they want the dignity of privacy, I reckon.

Yes Mastermel2
Some people do and some people don’t, there si always an exceptions to every rule.
I was just pointing out in a society where depression is far from common due to fish diet.
Also the knowledge that suicides tend to like a neat end mostly and yes one or two will make a mess.. funny with a higher amount of suicides in america they don’t repeat this.
Ah well it’s all speculation and your welcome to your beliefs opinions and posts lol

Japan has one of the highest suicide rates among rich countries. Cultural factors are partly at play. Japanese society rarely lets people bounce back from the perceived shame of failure or bankruptcy. Suicide is sometimes even met with approval—as facing one's fate, not shirking it. The samurai tradition views suicide as noble (though perhaps out of self-interest, since captured warriors were treated gruesomely). Japan's main religions, Buddhism and Shintoism, are neutral on suicide, unlike Abrahamic faiths that explicitly prohibit it.

Isis was the one who mentioned the Golden Gate Bridge, and I believe it is time to mention it again.
See, traditions form easily, and once a place is associated with suicide it becomes the easiest option for anyone looking to do it. A person who wants to commit suicide will likely try what worked for other people, and the ones who are serious about it consider where their body will wind up. If i was to kill myself i wouldn't want my body to be found, opting instead to simply vanish.
I have heard of that place before, as well as a couple other sites in Japan that are odd in nature. I hear that they recover a large number of bodies from the forest every year, and have to assemble search parties to comb through it in order to.... well... i'm not sure why. Perhaps they do it in an attempt to solve the mysteries of missing persons.
Anyway, it's nice to run into you guys again; Ocy, Dabs.

I haven't heard of that forest, but I don't think a "place" can make someone decide to commit suicide. People who commit suicide do so because it is what They have Decided to do, not because of someplace, but because they feel that it would be better than living...
Suicide to me is the chicken shi* way out of your problems, in other words, the easy way out. My ex-husband committed suicide in prison, just because his appeals to get out where not going the way he wanted them to, and I divorced him. I guess he figured he would get out one way or another, the way I see it is he gave up. Now my children have to live the rest of their lives knowing that their father decided dying was better than living and maybe getting out on parole and being with them again.

The only cowardice involved is the person who only does it for attention. If someone genuinely does not want to be a part of the world any longer and faces death earlier on, they've overcome fear in it's purest form. It isn't cowardice, it's just a poor decision (as far as I'm concerned, anyway)

Oh Well spotted Davydenko, I was going on the assumption that fish diets reduce this state of mind which is scientifically proven and personally proven. Still add the culture of harry carry which is a honorable death, hanging from a tree isn’t and suicide is not liked in that culture anymore. As for abrahamic faith being an answer im interested as to why that would be part of the answer. lol I do believe Abraham was asked to do burnt offering by his god? And I sure don’t want to turn this religouse or knocking im just talking points and facts as everyone is entitled to expression for or against in a nice manner, after all we are mostly adults here.
Also the worst for suicide happen to be followers of such religious paths Lithuania, Kazakhstan and Belaris are all major abrahamic faith lol so I think we can retract that one.

Still back to the forest, trendy place for the dead? drawn to a portal of death? A west gate opening? Thank you ocean for a rather interesting post and interesting to see the logic on the forums now a days.. I think ill stay ;-[

Some places have a history of violent behaviours and over the centuries the energies have become a portal for such behaviours

I have a feeling it might be a combination of things that make people choose the site for such a thing.I've heard mention of Mt. Fuji and the portal some time ago and have always found that an interesting aspect.
Its real good to see you back in the forums Cab,Lav ...Dab. I know I have sure missed your contributions!

maybe they like the rumor that lots of people died there, so more go thinking it would be a good place to end it and add to that detail.

Oceanne i have heard the same thing as well. Many places that have a significant history may have such energised portals

Davydenko, a most excellent commentary on the culture of honor in suicide as well your earlier posts on the different energies affecting environment, people and the interrelationships between them.

So here's a thought Oceana....considering that no two brains or DNA strands are alike...even my own is electrically "modified" by my seizure disorder, epilepsy...in pointing out a reference, if you will, to scriptures regarding the human body as "vessels"...to be filled and to carry spiritual energies...or geomagnetic ones...and even demonic ones...what if the inherent attraction for those seeking to release their souls and/or dishonor is also influenced by the "wiring" of the individual(s) involved?

If indeed, geomagnetic forces and other electrical phenomenon with the Earth affects us as a whole, would it not also vary from person to person as each individual differs...thus, dividing the wheat from the chaff?

It's much like pharmaceuticals and the various side-effects experienced by people who take a drug to treat a disease process...while one doesn't bother most, it will always affect a percentage of individuals who are genetically inclined to have a reaction to said drug or chemical interaction and process....such persons are considered "hyper-sensitives"...like myself...the train of thought I'm following here...(and not willfully casting myself in front of the Bullet...o.O)...is that would it be a plausible theory to state that such individuals committing suicide in a common place as this forest are indeed affected by the electrical forces centralized within that location and others? If so, then what other point of consideration could be commented upon that would give a more satisfactory explanation besides the only common factor being that all go in and none come out?

What exactly is in the center of a tootsie-pop?

The world may never know...o.O

I don't think it feels that way by mere chance I believe it is probably a one of the places where perhaps ancient sacrifice to gods occured but that's just a guess I would love to learn the unwritten history on that place,a time machine would be handy about now.

The wheat from the shaft..I understand just what youre saying SH.and had thought of several other things along that line as well.Only didnt want to bring up bible reffs,just in case.

I like your post and the thought! Thanks so much for the contribution.:D

The pied piper syndrome. Most beings are followers, even to their death.

There is a high degree of romanticism in suicide, especially at a landmark famous for it.
At least... it's romantic right up until your neck snaps, or water fills your lungs.

Suicide disperses energies, and if there's an area where this is rampant then the mess of those energies will attract like energies.

never heard of it in fact
usually i go to the forest for peace adn happiness but i do know its true that there are certain places filled with power.

Mel,what if it is the other way around? This is more of how Im leaning...

It does seem to be the places with the most beauty that attract the seriously depressed, but that goes along with my theory

I guess it would stand to reason Cab,especially in Japan,that the forest would provide quiet and solitude for suicide.Not to mention the trees(for hanging).

On a side note, did you know the color blue has been shown to decrease suicidal tendencies?

Yes Cab.:) Ive seen some stuff on that.Interseting point to bring up..

Here is a link to start those who havent..


An intriguing, anecdotal finding was recently reported by some news outlets that the implementation of blue-colored streetlights has reduced both crime and suicides:

Glasgow, Scotland, introduced blue street lighting to improve the city’s landscape in 2000. Afterward, the number of crimes in areas illuminated in blue noticeably decreased.

The Nara, Japan, prefectural police set up blue street lights in the prefecture in 2005, and found the number of crimes decreased by about 9 percent in blue-illuminated neighborhoods. Many other areas nationwide have followed suit.

Keihin Electric Express Railway Co. changed the color of eight lights on the ends of platforms at Gumyoji Station in Yokohama, Japan, in February.

Since the railway company introduced the new blue lights, they’ve had no new suicide attempts.

This effect may be attributed to a few possible reasons (some of which are mentioned in the comments section of the article):

•The light color is new and unusual, causing people to act more cautiously in the area (as a person is unsure what to expect in the unusually-lit area).
•Blue is a light color almost universally associated with a police presence, suggesting it is an area of stricter law enforcement.
•Blue may be a more pleasant illuminating color to most people, as opposed to yellow, orange or red (according to some research, such as Lewinski, 1938).
In fact, the article quotes from a professor at the end, noting it may just be an “unusualness effect:”


http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/12/13/can-blue-colored-light-prevent-suicide/

I've seen some pictures of this forest and it seems quite beautiful apart from the bones and nooses lying around. If I were to commit suicide I'd probably do it there.

theres also so much presure to succced in japanesse culture that if they beleve that they have lost face or havent got themselves in the right schools even to this day alot of people will kill themselves

I think it's just the Japanese culture. It's a beautiful place - where better than to die? it probably holds spiritual significance for a lot of people, and it would seem like the perfect place.

You have to remember than suicide is still honourable in Japan.

i agree but its a public suicide thats honorable isn't it?

until i have personally gone to this fores i cannot say if it is a place of power or not, but i do believe in the power of persuasion. with so many people talking about how this place is a dark place and all naturally people are going to think of going there to die. just like people go to jump off bridges to kill themselves. Another thing i want to point out is, if this is a place of power where alot of people die just from going in there, what happens to the cops that go in there to get the people? Have there been any rescuers that have died while being in the forest?

Not really, from what I know~ People commit it for all sorts of reasons and in quite a few different ways. Seppuku is probably the more famous form - though seppuku was also used as a punishment to disgraced samurai - by force.
Suicide in general was honourable.

Of course there are places of varied energy on this planet. It's a magnificent place full of mystery. To believe that these places don't exist is very closed minded and just lame. LOL! The elements of this Earth alone, are beyond our complete understanding. Elements control everything. It's the way of nature. Nature is the only thing that exonerates this hell hole we have created.

The only true wisdom lies in knowing that you know nothing. Socrates

I think that having an area or piece of the earth that has that kind of power or type of feeling is possible if you can tap into it.... if your just going there and expecting something to happen just because your there I doubt you'll find anything of interest besides the scenery. I have found some places that have an over abundance of energy that I could feel but nothing came out of it.... I was hopeful but to my loss nothing happened. But I do truly believe that places like that defintely do exist

I don't think it was anything wrong with the forrest from the beginning of it all but remember spirits of those who took their life, they are not at rest , well not all of them . So the feeling people get is from the spirits that still walks in the forrest after their death. I would also have a creepy feeling because u don't know what u will run in to. Maybe a body or a ghost ? and stuff left behind after those who ended their life. Its a place of pain, remorse, anger, sadness, sorrow. No wonder it feels wrong

Tine,so you believe that spirits can affect the living like that? Ive always been under the impression that once the soule leaves the body,it has no more influence of the physical world persey.
Thus the need for reincarnation.
Thanks all for the great posts!

I personally would like to research this more in depth,as I am pretty curious as to whats happening on the geomagnetic and infrasound levels due to all the volcanic activity underground in the area.It seems that many of these "places of power" have some things that are consistantly in common.
1.Water
2.High iron content in underlying strata etc
3.Underground pockets of gases ,some of which can affect humans pretty profoundly.
and 4. High incidence of volcanic activity and/or tetonic shift(slip and strike zones and other faults).

For anyone else who would like to look into this,here is a good place to start...

The First 30 Years of Infrasound Research at UAF

In 1965 the United States National Bureau of Standards requested that the University of Alaska install an array of infrasonic microphones in Alaska to study a particular type of infrasound that seemed to be associated with geomagnetic activity. These signals were observed at low latitude stations. They appeared to be coming from a source at high latitudes that moved from NE to NW as the night progressed. The Geophysical Institute at the University of Alaska at Fairbanks UAF, as a center for the study of auroral and geomagnetic storm phenomena, was happy to accept the challenge. The NBS provided the equipment for this first Alaskan infrasonic array. Four capacitor-type NBS microphones (N-4) were installed in a spaced-array with an aperture of about 5 kilometers around the Fairbanks area. Signals from the array were brought back to the GI building with rented phone lines. A 1000 foot long noise-reducing Daniels type pipe was used at each microphone as a spatial filter to reduce boundary-layer wind noise. The analogue signal from each microphone was recorded on individual paper charts. Coherent signals were identified on the paper chart records by time-shifting the four individual superimposed waveform traces by hand on a light table to obtain waveform matching. From the sequence of delay times measured from the phase-aligned records the horizontal trace-velocities and the back azimuths of the signal were determined. The system was operated in two different pass bands: (1) from 0.015 to 0.10 Hertz for long period waves, and from 0.10 to 1.0 Hz for short periods.

During the first years of operation of the Fairbanks array it was discovered that the supersonic motion of auroral-electrojet arcs would produce infrasonic bow waves that propagate to the surface, with high trace-velocities, from azimuths that are parallel to the direction of motion of the source-arcs. Over the next decade two more infrasonic arrays were installed in Alaska to study auroral Infrasound. The first was at Palmer, Alaska southwest of Fairbanks, from 1967 to 1968. The second was north of Fairbanks on the Yukon River at Stevens Village from 1971 to 1973. A forth array was installed in Inuvik in the Northwest Territories of Canada to look for auroral infrasound north of the auroral oval from 1969 to 1971. The auroral infrasound studies were extended to northern Europe in Sweden at the Kiruna Geophysical observatory from 1973 to 1976. Kiruna and Fairbanks have the same geomagnetic high latitude so that auroral infrasound observations could be compared at stations along the same parallel of geomagnetic latitude at stations separated by 180 degrees of longitude.

In Antarctica at 77.7 degrees south latitude in Windless Bight near the US station at McMurdo Sound an infrasonic array was operated from 1976 to 1985 in order to observe natural infrasound in the South Polar Region. Auroral related infrasound was found to be present at all six of the above mentioned high latitude infrasonic arrays. Natural infrasound from volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, marine storms, bolides, avalanches and mountain associated lee-wave turbulence have all been observed at each of the six infrasonic arrays operated by the Geophysical Institute of the University of Alaska. Infrasound produced by the enormous eruption in 1980 of Mt. St. Helens in Washington state (Figure 1) was observed at Fairbanks and in Windless Bight, Antarctica.


For the rest of this article..
http://www2.gi.alaska.edu/infrasound/Infrasound21.htm

I feel like if the person wants to commit suicide, they are going to do it in an area where others have done it as well.
I'm not sure why (simply because I, myself have never had a thought in my mind about suicide). But where i'm from we have a park named "scary park" and that's where the troubled kids usually hang themselves. It's very odd if you ask me.

Im thinking its a combination of several things honestly,and you brought up a good point.

I would like to look into something though..would you mind telling me the real name of that park please?