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r0yaltysfin3st
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Therian/lycan - Vampyre

We all know the differences between our kind. It is not a secret to anyone the attributes which separate us as a species be it physical or psychological. Yet there is a new thought which has been put into my mind. As of late I have been constantly told that the mated relationships between us are also quite different. Not "every relationship is different?; but that apparently the term "mate" in vampyre terms and therian terms are different. So I would like to get the opinions of others on this matter.

Do you believe the 'mating' styles are truly as different as the species?

In my own thoughts, I don't believe so. Yes every relationship is unique be it vamp/therian/mundane etc., but I believe being mated in any species is equal. Perhaps some are more attuned with there mate and such but that is not attributed to any one species. In every community there are those who know how to value and care for there mate and those that do not. *shrug* tis the sad fact of life, so I cannot see how it would be different.




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Without getting into a long,drawn out post,I feel that one,Vampires or Lycans or hybrids or whatever "mate" just like anyone else.Why? Because they are not separate species from humans.They ARE human.
And to be honest,these "attributes" you speak of must be a secret,because I havent seen one single "attribute" that makes a vampire or any other "creature" of that nature any different either.
Sorry,not trying to be mean here.JMHO

In real life anyways.



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I need to see evidence of the differences myself to make a more informed opinion. To have an opinion on such speculative guesses doesn't help the argument



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ContessaIsabella
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I hate to state the obvious but we are a bit more bitey...
Gnashes her teeth. LOL.



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Irregardless of how one describes themselves, a mated relationship, arranged marriage, live-in, boyfriend/girlfriend, doners of blood, fur, fangs, what have you...relationships are all in some way, inter-dependent are they not? I would have to agree to some respect with the author of this thread, I don't see that there would be much difference considering people treat their kin and lovers either with great love and passion or with disdain and abuse.

Personal relationships are noteworthy for what each individual brings into it...nothing more, nothing less...doesn't matter which mammal you are...;)



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SireHecate
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My question is whether they're actually capable of such relationships?



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ContessaIsabella
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Well they say the wolves run hot and the Vamps run cold, seems like a balanced match to me?



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I also agree with the author of this thread. Relationships are all unique and I don't think 'species' plays much of a role in defining those relationships. I am vampire, my husband is lycan and we get along fabulously.

~Darken



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SireHecate
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Such relationships require care, concern and a tom of love in my opinion



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Mating... is as personal as it can be, for the pair concerned.



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Though mating is some what the same there are big differences.

I am a vampyre. And I know that I will mate for life such as lycans. But I the human world I know that is not the case. *looks up* and yes we most certaintly are more bitey*giggles* any way attachments and meanings are also different. For humans what I've observed is that their mate be it husband or wife are not truly connected as the mate of a Lycan or vampyre.



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UpirLikhyj
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Actually, the historical evidences do suggest quite a discernible difference.

As the original Vampire accounts of Eastern Europe describe a male species with an "insatiable sexual" capacity that had his female "victims" "exhausted and emaciated" after such intense long-lasting mating encounters, it would seem that there is indeed a discernible difference between the mating of normal Human males and those called "Vampires."

In the 20th Century, this very discernible difference was sufficient to inspire and fund the only sex research study (Rutgers University, 1995) to scientifically document this vampirically "insatiable" (multiorgasmic) male sexual capacity.

Rather than mimicking (as do "multiorgasmic" males using ejaculatory-control techniques) the natural insatiably sensual and emotional capacity of the Female, the "Vampire" of Eastern Europe was and remains... her true equal.


- Upir'



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Every person has their own unique style of sex. Sure there are categorical types, but still, each individual person is going to express their love differently, even if minutely so.



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You Stated:

"As of late I have been constantly told that the mated relationships between us are also quite different. Not "every relationship is different?; but that apparently the term "mate" in vampyre terms and therian terms are different."

You ask the question, but fail to answer it for yourself... and it is one that each person already knows.
What you desire most is that which attracts you most and No single species can claim desire as their own.

What makes each relationship unique are the expectation and requirements of it's participants as their relationship grows and develops beyond it's inception.
You should know what you desire and what you need without much thought and the strength of your bond will be based on what you can and can't except. From that you will either grow together or apart. As for Vampyric, mundane, ext... Yes those desires and needs can and are different in small physical, mental, and emotional ways but not some much that true love can't find a way to endure those differences. Again if your desire can allow you to look beyond those differences.

The real question is do you believe what you are"constantly being told" about our mating differences and whether or not the source can be trusted??

I would hope that your answer to this question would also depend on what exactly they are attempting to replace your current understand with??



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It is the "passion", we have when mating that makes us different.



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17:24:36 Dec 17 2011
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My ex boyfriend was human and my husband is vampire.don't know is it racial or not but sex is diferent as heaven and hell.my husband hase more energie,more streanght and stamina then my ex.when he shift he is more stronger and endurant then most humans i know.so,thats just my thoughts and my expirience.



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03:56:43 Dec 18 2011
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-upir

But uyou do bring up a good point. But hat leads me to question was the observation made off of a hand vamp relations or vamp to vamp. Because there are big differences and I must question weather the vampyre in question had or has a mate? So many blanks !!!!!!!!!!



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Vichtorija
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He had a vamp mate and he told me that the sex between vamps is agresive,bloody,hardcore and sadomasohistic.vamps are promiscues and unfaithfull to other vamps.



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Perhaps it is my demon who makes me believe that we mate for life. But all Vampyre sisters and brothers I have met who are mated have said that it is like they they couldn't live without the other. Other lycans have said the same.



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Thanks from bringing the subject into a discussion. Vampires, the same as Lycan, need the relationship of a mate. If that didn't happen, then, the evolution of both species will be loss. Vampires are created, not inducted. And for the creation of a vampire, you need the communion between two of the kind. For some, who follow the "Hollywood" tradition of vampirism, the mating happen between humans and Vampires, the same as Lycon and humans. And for sure, the differences between Humans and Lycon and Vampires are many.



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I think A BOND is first before any mating,before a mate
is chosen. with a bond,mating is easy and love can
blossom.

I'm shure sex is the same.. But the mating dance or
mating games may be diffrent for a wolf or a vamp.
Blood can be share with both partners in the vampyre
mating games or a dance under the moon.
for vamps.. the males fangs are more curved then a females fangs.
Wich I have read on a web site that its like this so the
male,when he bites during mating, he can keep a hold
on his mate,better.
Lycans.. i am not shure how they would do any kind
of mating games or dances, but im shure they like somthing diffrent as well.

A normal human would NEVER think about biting
or exchanging blood. So there mating and bonding
would be diffrent as well... as a vamp or a wolf.

I never had a sexual relationship with a male vampyre.
I have chosen a mate,but we have not done anything yet.
Romance and bonding is always first, always best.



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speaking from personal expirience(and that is just me)vampires do not have very much options to find a mate,at least here where i am from.i have found a human mate that has accepted me better then vampire female.here,vamp females are promiscues and unfaithfull to the vamp males and cant setle down with one mate.i dont know about the rules of vamp mating with humans but i couldnt live without my human female,and the sex...OH,GODS...



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Well as one who sees this from a few different sides....

to mate - to have sex, passion romance and love.

If you have any of the above, and you can find your solice, and your peace within the arms of that person/persons then it matters not what you think you are.

If you think your a vampire, if you think your a therian, or if you assume those archetypes while making your hot fetishy sex better, then by all means. Do so at your will. Heighten your perceptions of what you feel love is, let it be your all consuming flame, and you won't have a need to attempt to classify what fun it can be.

If you have to rationalize or analyze then chances are, its not much fun.



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DarkBlade
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some do not wish to date humans



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Oceanne
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DarkBlade,I did an experiment on that once after someone had made a statement,much like the one you posted above.

My findings where that while several held to the same standard,those very people more than wanted to date someone they thought was a Vampire,and in the end were surprised to find out that the one they had attatched their emotions to,werent vampires.They were just...human.



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I am attracted to those who have a strong sense of Self. How they identify has little to nothing to do with it. As far as "mating" goes, I could bring up particulars, depending upon whether you were speaking of sex, or partnerships, et cetera. Honestly, however, that is all very personal. It differs from relationship to relationship, in my experience that is.



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i believe this is something not meant for a forum, but who am i to judge what is and isn't, i believe each of our kind bring something to the table and while i have my own biased belief, none are truely better than the other.



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I have never met a Lycan, so have no experience there. To be honest, I have never met a vampire. So, as a psi vampire I am alone and find satisfaction with a male mate.
I can say, after awakening to my own vampiric needs, mating is very different for me, and exhausting for my mate.



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FatherJP
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It depends if you can shield well enough not to harm the ones you love. It can be dangerous to be in a relationship with a human if you are a Vampyr or Therian (Shifter/Lycan). Vampyres can take to much or harm there mate if they are mundane as can Therians when they go through the change. I prefer to be in a relationship with any form of Other kin as it can be beneficial to both. I prefer Fae (Fairies or Therian) as they both have too much energy as opposed to normal humans and Vampyres which have a need for it constantly. It is often a struggle. As far as sex goes we are all much more passionate than mundanes


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Oceanne
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To be honest ,I believe its kindof dangerous to lead people..especially the young,into believing that these "otherkin" are anything other than human.Mundane as we all may be.Because despite a belief that one might be Vampire,or Lycan or Faeri,and perhaps even having traits or living the lifestyles of said creatures,in the end,they are ALL human.

And please,until someone can prove otherwise,there is no sense even debating that fact.
So in the end,although passion and sex drive levels will vary from person to person,we all face the same problems as far as mating and having relationships.



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to r0yaltysfin3st
Mating for humans is different then Vampyres and Lycans, simple because humans change their mates way to often. I'm not completely sure but I think the Lycans mate for life.



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Bloody,I really must address your statement because I have found that vampires and Lycans do NOT keep mates for life any more than humans do.And so many examples right here on VR come to mind.
I dont understand why people keep insisting on making those type of statements when in fact there is sooooo much evidence that simply shows otherwise.
Is there something I have been missing all this time that would prove me wrong on that? Seriously...I could name at least 10 people who are "vampires" who go through mates and relationships like I do socks.



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"Actually, the historical evidences do suggest quite a discernible difference."


Upir,this is true when we consider your perception of what a vampire is through extensive study and experience..which most,in spite of all the evidence you have provided,do not seem to feel the same way.
In fact,you are really the only self proclaimed vampire that I know of, who has actually shown evidence and historical facts to lend credence to what you have claimed as far as vampires go...And if I do recall,I dont ever think I have heard you state that a vampire wasnt human.



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Human, oh most definitively, that's the best way to spot a fake, the "wannabees" that are not made of flesh and blood, have no passport and cannot use iris scanners at the airport...

Human hosts, of course. Doesn't mean their puplis don't scowl at the light though, fortunately junkies have the same problem so spotting vamps is difficult...poke them with a big stick, make them hungry is the best bet...but I,m not going to tell you what to look for now am I. Anyway, ordinary folks shouldn't be lifting up rocks and looking up noses, or sooner or later you're going to find a buger, then what?



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Dear Oceanne,

Thank you for such kind remarks. And, yes, I have never stated otherwise, nor would I. The historical "Vampire" was and is Human...though of Rephaim ("fallen angel") descent.

As re: our mates: Due in large part to the far-greater depth and extent of our emotional, spiritual & sensual capacity, we form deeper bonds on all levels with our mates. Hence, we do mate for life. I've been married 28 years, thus far. And while historical "Vampires" might add a mate to such unions as proves beneficial and as desired by all within such, we would never leave a mate.


- Upir'



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Fallenstar
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Why does everyone focus on raw sex. Surely hearing inside a persons head has just as much beauty(and sometimes mouild) as any well curved figure ?



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