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Most of you think you are a vampire and yet it is not the correct terminology. What you should say is that you believe in Vampirism, there is a difference.


vam•pire (v m p r )
n.
1. A reanimated corpse that is believed to rise from the grave at night to suck the blood of sleeping people.
2. A person, such as an extortionist, who preys upon others.
3. A vampire bat.

Now the idea of Vampirism:

vam•pir•ism (v m p r- z m)
n.
1. Belief in vampires.
2. The behavior of a vampire.

You act or believe in Vampirism and so call it for what it is. The existence of a true vampire in body form is not possible according to science.

What is your opinion we’d like to know.

DA, the definition of vampire in that example is very narrow.

As has been discussed in numerous threads, anything which lives off the life force of another can be considered vampiric.

I kill and eat vegetables. I kill and eat meat. THrough their deaths, through the consumption of their life forces, I continue to exist. By the loose definition, I exhibit vampiric behaviours.

When you throw in the possibility that science does not yet know all, then maybe we can concede that the definition of vampire falls somewhere in between yours and mine.



(This is not to mention the varying types of vampires, also quite often listed. Not going there yet.)

Requiem has an excellent point, and I would say that the definitions could be viewed in much more detail in regards to determining one from another... however you do have a good poit DarkAdmin. As I am always saying it is a mater of perspective, for example, I dont for a moment think that I am a reanimated corpse :-)

Question:What about the people on here that actual believe they are kin and yet say they never turned another themselves?

Well, i personally dont believe that you can 'turn' a person in te typical sence of blood exchange... its mental erspective and the will to do so.

If you read the first definition it states:

1. A reanimated corpse that is believed to rise from the grave at night to suck the blood of sleeping people.

Requiem I do not think you are a reanimated corpse.

This definition is to the point though drinking of blood is part of it the Corpse part is what I am focusing on. So are you a reanimated corpse that feeds off of vegetables?

I dont think the deffinition of a Vampire should be so narrow, so many things aren't taken into consideration in that deffinition.

Requieum are you this?

The traditional definition of vampire we are looking at. But all vampiric activity can be classified as Parasitic


par•a•sit•ic (p r -s t k) also par•a•sit•i•cal (- -k l)
adj.
1. Of, relating to, or characteristic of a parasite.

Agrees with Requiem except I was a vegitarian!

The idea of being a parasite can be a degrogatory way of looking at my ideas... if one sees oneself as vampiric in nature, then energy can be utilised.

interesting definitions though.
do we not even call those who bleed you dry monetarily vampyres?
i think its the perspective you see it from

It was not meant as a derogatory statement but another view of it. You are feeding off another organism to sustain your existence.

It is another view...and he is right from that point of view

Hooray...thanks DA!

I suppose you could look at it form the view of cultural definition.

We, as a society have an image of what a vampire is mean to be and many people here could claim to fit that preconception and still be a 'true' vampyre in the technical sense that they require sustenance from another living being...thus, they are 'vampires'.

Let me correct myself

A living Organism

So i guess the Merriam-Webster dictionary is wrong...example definition vampire 2 : a person who preys on other people...
or the definition of vampie bat : any of various bats of central and south America that feed on the blood of animals.
I guess they have it wrong eh!
So the term should be vampirism bat...
Nah just doesn,t stike me the right way.
I can see where you are suggesting that vampire is a cultural term, and vampirism is an actual term. but one goes hand in hand with the other as vampirism is a derivative of vampire. The whole noun verb thing cannot escape one another here.... Same word but two different actions.....

This is from Merriam-Webster dictionary Online and it seems you forgot the first definition. As a noun it describes a person place or thing and no matter what dictionary you use it will have the same meaning as a noun.

Main Entry: vam•pire
Pronunciation: 'vam-"pIr
Function: noun
Etymology: French, from German Vampir, from Serbo-Croatian vampir
1 : the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep
2 a : one who lives by preying on others b : a woman who exploits and ruins her lover
3 : VAMPIRE BAT
- vam•pir•ish /-ish/ adjective

Nope but I may just close the thread because I know I am beating a reanimated dead blood sucking corpse...lol

no arguments there, so what you are leading at is that you wish for those to acknowledge the difference between a cultural myth, and the actual practice or belief centered around that myth. same as christians are not jesus the christ but believe, therefore practice ritual centered around the myth....emulation of a thing if you will...

It's the debate that I enjoy. The facts and opinions of people are welcome and acknowledge. I like to see how people think and controversy is the best way to get the thought process going. I will not change anyone’s mind for only they can do that for themselves.

Nice thread from the Dark Adminstration :)

LOL...DA...I like you...heh

damn stubborn beast...

Good show dark admin, debate is the key to stimulation and independent thought...
I like to poke at the lions occasionally myself because i appreciate a good roar...
My own opinion of the subject is that the fantasy attracts many, but for the issue of the real macabre lifestyle of those who do practice vampirism, for whatever reason, i can see it a bit annoying to see so many speak of that which they have never experienced. And a clear drawn definition would be most agreeable but in this world of ours unlikely acceptable... I know of many satanist that experience the same delima, as it is easy to claim one thing and be another... dimming a light on the genuine and exploiting the pure fantasy at the cost of those that put time and appreciation into a lifestyle and or preference... I have done my share of it, in both lights as it is.... As far as actual vampirism many understand little the dangers, such as aquired anemia, so the fantasy may lead those unsuspecting to try things that may lead to harm without the insight or guidance for safe passage into something that is a very real practice....

No, DA, ya smartass. LOL

I am not a reanimated corpse.

My point, my very specific point, was that THAT definition of vampire, a reanimated corpse, is not the ONLY definition of vampire.

*snrk*

Smartass. *grin*

Bunnicula is creepy.

And, hey, I eat meat too. Not just vegetables.

LOL...that is the rumour, dear Requiem...

Well req, I can be the vegtairan in this discussion :-P

You seem to forget, though, that the definitions in the dictionary are the denotations of the word. However, many words have many different connotations that are just as valid a "definition" as those in the book. Language is not something that you can pin down, and so the meaning of the word can, and will, change from era to era.

Yeah a lot of ppl on here just practice it but aren't true vampires. Only a few choosen are lucky enough to meet and be given the privledge to drink the blood from a true vampire, someone of the bloodlines.

But if you think about it, everyone is part of the bloodlines. Maybe not directly, but some part is. Everyone is supposedly dirived from two people, right? Then that means we are some how all related, hence the fact that we are all part of the bloodlines.

Has anyone noticed that whenever someone tries to strictly define anything, it screws up the whole concept? I for one think that nothing can be defined or fit into a category.

Since it's so hard to define things using human words it just limits things.

Lucky one are you referring to the bloodline of Cain? Because if you are whitewolf vampires are not the topic here.

true the only thind actually being discussed is simple semantics of a few words and their improper usage
of course about a quarter of the english language is commonly used improperly.....

Okay, if your going to use that definition they are also Nnzumbies, in voodoo a "zombie" is an undead who is brought back to life by control of their restless spirit. Some of us thrive on the lives of others, some don't. Don't be so Anal about the definition.