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01:12:11 Oct 07 2005
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Well i dont think its true u might have to but to some of us that were just born this way it doesnt sound natural.




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You don't have to drink from another.



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You don't have to transfer blood. Thats more myth than anything



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this would have done perfectly well as a poll. /:)



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lol well i cant make a poll im not at a right level....I thought so...now to tell everyone that thought they are a vampire because of transefered blood its wrong!



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If I remember correctly..some Pagan/Wiccan ceremonies use a tranferance of blood...and they aren't vampires...so of course that is false...like i stated earlier..its just myth.



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did you know if you drink too much blood then you can become diabetic.........i think they said too much human blood



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another myth..if you drink too much blood and your body is not use to consuming so much, your body with get rid of it: by puking or passing it. Your liver is only able to break down only a certain amout of blood..it doesnt digest in the human system correctly



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of course you do, it's in the script. heehee.



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Ok so if drinking the blood of another isn't the way.. Then what is?



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04:26:21 Oct 07 2005
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I don't believe so, but feel free to check out Liderc1986's how to be a vampire poll that's on the top of the posts right now. Later.



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The Internet says you do, so it must be true!



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I do not think that drinking theblood of a vampire would make you one.. I was born with an intense craving for blood... I have never drank a vampire's blood, nor did i have to go through some magical lestat like transformation... i have always been thus. I think that once again Hollywood has outdone itself in producing massive amounts of untruths dedicated to Vampyrism.



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lol it is a myth ok i just started this foroum becuase somebody thats on this site told me that they are a vampire because they shared blood with someone that was! fake bull crap!



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No,and by just drinking blood from another doesn't make you one -_-



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since there are different kinds of vampyres you dont HAVE to drink from a vampyre to become one.



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depends on the vamp and human



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thanks deathnitegrl.....god i just hope they no what they are doing because that can give u aids! doctor told me...lol



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the thing is, the human body can only ingest so much "iron" thats why the body rejects it. you will in a sense get iron over dose



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among other things



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urgm..well to become a vampire..you must be embraced..then you drink...



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I posted this in another thread, but I think it is valid in this one too...
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Just to inject some harsh reality here...

In 2003, A young man named Alan Menzies, a Scotsman, claimed to have been visited by the [fictional] character Akasha, of Queen of The Damned.

He was apparently promised by this vampire that if he carried out a murder and drank some of the blood of his victim, he would become a vampire in his next life.

He subsequently murdered another man, a freind of his, who had ridiculed his heroine, Akasha.

He then proceeded to drink the blood and even tasted the flesh.

He was sentenced to life inprisonment and was found dead a year later, suicide.

He had watched the movie over 100 times and tried to claim diminished responsibility, but this was rejected.

So...the moral of this tale of woe?

Do not allow the lines between fiction and reality to blur.

Always question and always consider more than one point of view.



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Echo
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I dont believe any of those sort of stories.



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I have not seen it in reality so I cannot make a staement based off what I dont know.



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Drinking a vampire's blood, when you are already a vampire, is one way of sharing knowledge and cultural charateristics (sp) ...

Drinking blood to become a vampire isn't true, though if the person believes it enough, they might let their own inner beast out by mental will.



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Well, first you have to be drained of most of your human blood, then replaced by another type...but it depends on the human body each type of body

some bodies can adapt to the different blood, some may die...



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well there are many different ways to become one but i havent remember then all.



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Your argument is acceptable and if you were born as such then obviously you don’t have to. But I might imagine that if you are not then in a way could be possible that by drinking from one the person might be made.



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lol its usually someone thats drunk so they usually dont notice what hit them!



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Ahhh myth... It has lead to so many conversations here...

I don't believe that there must be blood transfer, for I was born one and no one, that I know, in my blood liniage, was a vampire...



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Thank you Gylanah! Excellent point.

I will say this plainly so as not to cause confusion......Vampires are BORN not made. If you were not born a vampire then too bad. If you wanna become a vampire thats too damn bad. The whole "turning" idea is a bunch of bullshit. The closest thing to that is the point of self realization by which I mean that the person truly realize what they have known subconsciously their whole life being that they are a vampire.



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I for one have never met a "made" vampire. LIke someone stated earlier in this post..sharing blood of a vampire might lead to an awakening...but it won't turn you. I was born a vampire so like many of us...but I like I said, sharing blood of a vampire to human is not going to make you a vampire...
TV, books, and movies glam it up to make it interesting to the subconscious.



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Echo
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I don't see how a vmapire has to be made... but I simply see it as more of a state of mind than anything else.



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It is myth and im glad that yall know that so now i got to find the so called vampire who said he was one because of blood transfer. Thanks All



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I think it all depends on the type of vampire and the strength of the blood.



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I dont know much about this cause I'm not one, but I dont think you have to.



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well stated echo.



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If one were to be able to become a vampire simply by drinking a vampire's blood, then i suppose that would cause all kinds of problems then wouldn't it? i mean really think about it... if that were the case, we would have a whole bunch of "made" vampires running around loose all over the place... especially with the assumption that being a vampire means a very lonely . cold existence... well if they could make new ones, they wouldn't be so lonely ... and then of course we would have an over abundance of vampires... the whole human population would be extinct , and vampires would take over.... then what on earth would they feed on?...sorry i got off on a tangent, but really think about it.



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Like most things I believe that this is something innate... you are born with it... you can't really become a vampire, it doesn't make sense that suddenly you decide... 'I want a new hobby... I'll become a vampire!' It is within your soul... you can feel it... or discover it eventually through the course of your life!



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Da!



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U must be born or bitten by a vampire to be one.



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exactly.. and besides..
how many of you in here are real vampires?
i dare you to go in the sun and see if u stay alive or not..muhahaha:P:P



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The Science of Vampires
Part I
In 1616, Italian scientist Ludovico Fatinelli published his Treatise on Vampires, in which he speculated that vampirism was caused by a microscopic pathogen. He was burned at the stake for heresy. Fortunately, science plowed ahead, undeterred. The information included in this section is the result of the work of countless dedicated men and women.

The Virus

HVV source:
the bat flea
Xenopsylla cheopsis

HVV carrier:
Vampire bat
The source of vampirism is the Human Vampiric Virus (HVV). Like Rabies, HVV belongs to the order Mononegavirales, viruses with a nonsegmented, negative-stranded RNA genome. Viruses in this group have a distinct bullet shape. The virus' natural host is a flea commonly found on cave-dwelling bats, especially the vampire bat. In the most common scenario, a bat which has been bitten by the flea passes the virus on to livestock and humans through a bite.
While in theory HVV infection is possible through any exchange of bodily fluids, transmission occurs through the bite of an infected person in virtually every case.




Stages of the Disease


Electron micrograph of HVV (left);
The virus budding off an infected cell (right)
Stage One: Infection. Within hours of being bit, the victim develops a headache, fever, chills and other flu-like symptoms as the body tries to fight off the infection. These symptoms can be easily confused with more common viral infections, although the presence of bite marks on the body is usually enough to confirm the diagnosis. This stage generally lasts between six and twelve hours, during which the vaccine is 100 percent effective.




In 1800 France, an infected
woman is given a transfusion of
goat's blood, a desperate, futile
measure to ward off the disease
Stage Two: Vampiric Coma. Within 24 hours of being bit, the victim will slip into a Vampiric coma. During this phase, the pulse slows, breathing is shallow and the pupils are dilated. The large numbers of people mistakenly buried alive while in Vampiric comas gave rise to the myth that vampire sleep in coffins. While it is commonly thought that anyone infected with HVV turns into a vampire, in fact only a small percentage of people survive Vampiric comas. Generally, the young, the old and the feeble never come out of their Vampiric comas and eventually die. The vast majority of people who survive Vampiric comas are males between the ages of 18 to 35. Vampiric comas last about a day; the victim usually comes out of the coma the night after its onset. The vaccine is 50 percent effective when administered during Stage Two of the infection: the longer the victim has been in the coma, the less effective the vaccine.


During vampire epidemics,
many victims were buried while
still in a Vampiric coma
Stage Three: Transformation. A bite victim who survives the coma wills awaken fully transformed into a vampire. An acclimation period follows, characterized by confusion, despondency and paranoia. Most vampires begin to hunt within 24 hours of transformation. The vaccine is of no use at this point.





The Science of Vampires - Part II
Vampire Biology
A person who comes out of a Vampiric coma fully transformed will have undergone a number of major physiological changes affecting the various systems of the body. The information included below is only an overview; for a more detailed account, try two classic texts: Henry Gray's Anatomy of the Vampire and Vesalius' Five Books on the Structure of the Vampire Body.

Brain/Nervous System
A vampire's nervous system is similar to humans and has proven to be their "achilles heel." Injuries to the spinal cord and brain can devastating for vampires. While a vampire's spinal cord and nerves work as before transformation, a numbers of changes take place in the brain, and that altered brain chemistry goes a long way toward understanding vampire behavior.



Normal brain (left) shows serotonin activity;
vampire brain (right) shows none
serotonin: vampires have much lower levels of this neurotransmitter. In humans, low levels of serotonin trigger aggression and risky behavior. A study of murderers on death row revealed low levels of serotonin in their brains.

dopamine: another neurotransmitter, dopamine induces feelings of well-being. In vampires, it is released during feeding and has a narcotic-like effect. Neural pathways activated in vampires during feeding are much like those found in addicts when using drugs.

circadian rhythms chemical changes in the brain that helps us "rise and shine" with the morning light are reversed in vampires.

Sense Organs
Powerful sense organs gave vampires an advantage both in hunting and eluding capture. Sneaking up on them virtually impossible, as they are aware of your presence long before you are aware of theirs.


Normal eye (left); Vampire eye (right)
sight: in vampires, the iris in each eye becomes hyper dilated, giving them what appear to be black eyes. While this iris dilation gives vampires excellent night vision, it renders them effectively blind in daylight. In addition, vampires suffer inflammation of the sclera, making the whites of their eyes appear red.

smell/hearing: both senses are extremely acute, as vampires have double the receptor cells in their noses and ears compared to humans. In fact, vampires usually smell or hear a person coming long before they see one.


Hair, skin, teeth, fingernails
Part of the terror of encountering a vampire stems from dramatic changes to their outer appearance. Some of these changes are functional, while others remain a mystery.



The upper (l) and lower (r) eyeteeth
experience rapid growth
Teeth: during vampiric coma, the upper and lower eyeteeth experience growth. Additional enamel is deposited on the crown of the tooth. Vampires will file the teeth to make them sharper for easier feeding.
Hair: vampires lose all their bodily hair within ten years of transformation (except for the tiny hairs in their ears, known as cilia).

Skin: a newly-transformed vampire has a sickly, pale yellow skin tone that turns to blue over the next few days. In time, the skin becomes more and more translucent, and a fine network of veins become visible under the skin.

Fingernails: vampire fingernails thicken and grow at a rapid rate. Vampires will file their nails to a point, which helps them in grabbing victims.
Circulatory System
The most profound differences between humans and vampires are found in the circulatory system. These differences enable vampires to survive massive trauma that would kill a human being.


Blood: vampire blood is called ichor (pr. ik-er). Modifications to hemoglobin in the blood cells makes vampire blood appear black.

the Heart: vampire blood is pumped via the contraction of skeletal muscle rather than the heart, which eventually atrophies from disuse.

adrenaline: this "emergency hormone," which normally kicks in during "fight or flight" situations, is found in consistently large amounts in vampire blood. The presence of adrenaline, along with changes in muscle, bone and connective tissue, account for vampire's extraordinary strength, speed and aggressiveness.


Seen through night vision,
a vampire attacks its prey
Body Temperature
A vampire's core body temperature is only about 60 degrees, compared to over 98 degrees for humans. This marked difference proved to be a great help for modern vampire fighters, as it made vampires easily distinguishable from humans when viewed through heat-sensitive infrared imagery (note the difference between the vampire and human in the picture at right).

Muscular/Skeletal System
Adaptations in their skeletal and muscular systems give vampires significant advantages over humans.


Muscles/Connective Tissue: about 90% of vampire muscles are of the fast-twitch variety (compared to 50% for the average human). Fast-twitch muscles enable short bursts of maximal force, ideal when hunting prey. Also, vampire ligaments and tendons thicken in response to the workload imposed upon them by the muscles.
Skeletal system: vampire bones thicken, an adaptation necessary to support their newly-powerful muscles.

Aging and Life Expectancy
While no vampire on record has ever died of natural causes, vampires do undergo an aging process, just not in the same way as humans. Vampires do not age on a molecular/genetic level, but their life of hunting and eluding capture creates tremendous wear and tear in the form of injuries to bones and tissue.


A 125-year old vampire
photographed in Spain, 1901
Note the curved spine and
lack of hair
Because they presented such a danger to society, most vampires were destroyed long before the outer limits of their life span were determined. Ancient history offers some clues, however. In Ancient China, there was said to be one vampire in the emperor's court through the entire (eastern) Zhou Dynasty, which would put his age at 550. More accurate modern records have certified vampires of over 200 years old.

Contrary to the opinions of many theologians, vampiric longevity is not the result of some pact with the devil, but rather an ability to ward off the DNA damage that occurs during cell division in normal humans. Specifically, the protective caps on the ends of chromosomes known as telomers get chewed up over time in humans, but not in vampires.

Though their DNA may have the ability to resist aging, a vampire's appearance will change dramatically over time. Vampires lose all of their hair within 10 years of transformation. Over time, a vampire's fat stores shrink away and its skin becomes thinner and more transparent, giving it a withered, dried appearance. Aging also leaves vampires with a pronounced curvature of the spine.

Despite their rather feeble appearance, older vampires are still extremely powerful and agile. Many a vampire hunter has made the mistake of underestimating them.





P.S. I did not write this



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Modern Living Vampires are born and not made. If fact there isn't anything anyone can do to "make" someone a vampire. You are either born a vampire or you're not. You can't be "turned" or tranformed by any kind of methods.



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i agree with my lord



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Lord Nocturnus, you make an excellent point- if this isn't in the articles section it should be-I for one espouse the old fashioned belief of biting and blood transference, but I think that is more a personal preference than any basis in fact



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I didn't have to....My father is pure-blood..Although, I wouldn't pass up a chance really.....



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It depends on how you set up the vampire. If the vampire is a mystical being, then the blood is endowed with the same "curse" thus containing the properties to continue the line. If you take that element out--or somewhat out--you could make it into a viral infection thus creating another vampire in that way. But, if it is strictly just a species then it might be a different way or no way at all. It all depends on how you wish to frame it.



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i wouldn't know, and i will not even think about it untill i become a vamp. if i could or will. I've seen alot of different responces like it's bloodline, born like it, a virus, getting bit...etc... but i don't know the actual way, unless there are multiple ways.



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08:51:26 Oct 13 2005
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Movie syndrome.....



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lycian
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13:19:38 Oct 13 2005
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You don`t drink from a vampire to become a vampire;it drinks from you and then you a vampire.



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Alucard2009
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02:50:21 Oct 14 2005
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Lord Nocturnus i agree with the article!



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RAGEtheSOLDIER
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15:28:09 Oct 15 2005
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i think that is not true due to my own experiences if a vamp feeds from you long enough or hard enough then you will change it is in the saliva as well...



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coldpain
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17:08:53 Oct 15 2005
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that happens when ppl doesnt have much to do:)



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PrettySamantha
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17:09:58 Oct 15 2005
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im not sure seen it in movies dont think so tho



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20:34:02 Oct 15 2005
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i believe dat u dnt have 2 drink another vamps blood.
Sum ppl might do nd its reli up do them
every1 has different beliefs nd dis is mine.



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crimsendragon666
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21:48:19 Oct 15 2005
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There are two ways to become a vampire, your either born one, or there has to be a blood exchange.



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