ok i was just wondering i mean why are vampires that drink blood are mentioned WAY more then psyc. vamps...i mean its wierd i think...they are all vampires in the end am i right?...wat do yall have to say
coz the sanguines are the "traditional" ones mentioned in books, movies and myths. they are the ones you would associate with vampyres.
only if you delve in to the subject you will learn about different kinds of vampyres.
just ask your friends who arent into vampyrism what kind of vampyres they know and you will find out that most only know the "traditional" ones!
Because everyone that claims they are a psychic vamp usually turn out to be idiots that use ANY excuse to call themselves vampires.
"i fed off your energy"
or..."when Im at the club...I feed off everyones positive energy" everyone can feel A GENERAL VIBE IN THE AIR...If you are stopped by the police and the person driving has a pound of cocaine and you know about it. And you get scared because the driver is scared...does that make you a pys? some here would say yes.
because sang vampires...are the ones that are in all the movies and books...the main intent is to make vampires look scary and lets face it...a vampire that feeds thru touch isnt scary...and most people want to stick with the traditional roles of vampires...
everyone on some level can probably be a psychic vampire... Then again it's hardly known about... whereas blood sucking vamps are everywhere and have been for a while.
On top of this... the image has been furthered through hollywood and other ficitious works
*shrug*
because when the average person thinks about vampirism they all think about the hollywood crap instead of actually looking into it and seeing just how many types of vampires there really are.
bloodlust,
I would say thats it's more likely becasue there are neccessary physical contacts for drinking blood, whereas, a true drawing of energy from someone is less obvious, not to mention less erotic for the fictionalised concept.
yeah they are all vampires but in the end their are more about blood drinking vamps because that is what holds all these peoples imaginations out here. My hubby is a psychic vampire and I think its cool and there should be more stuff on psychic vamps but then again the society would never understand that.
it's rather questionable as to whether a psy vamp is even a vamp at all....
by dictionary terminology they aren't....
they are however a parasitic entity...
but then again....so are lawyers
that and gushing arterial spray is far more noticable than someone feeling emotionally or mentally drained
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Interesting question!
I think it's because blood vampires are the ones who are seen doing the act.
Also why there aren't any movies about blood ones?Cause they're not definied as cool and sexual!!!-_-
blood drinking vampires are more knowen cause we are what people find pleasing to them and what makes females come to us so easly.
ah well there are certan vamps that are syc
but alot of them are just vampires they use there visions to see where there next target is at is what i think but thats just an opinion.
Because the Sang. vamps are more prominant then Psy. vamps. Sang vamps have been around for ages, psy vamps have been around for ages also, but only have surfaced in the recent past. The psychic vamp is still a relatively new concept in the world of vampirism.
Only because of the people wishing to be vampires think mostly of the blood drinking vampires as opposed to the energy draining vampires. . . . And there are many people on here wishing some day to be "turned." That is why it is mentioned more.
They are vampires but the blood drinking ones, like me, are more noticeable. Granted the others are also noticeable, but most humans only react to bodies. Plus it is easier to make a movie out of a blood drinking vamp than a psychic vamp. So not a lot of people know about the psychic vamp.
Lol *blushes*know am seeing my mistake I meant why there aren't any movies about psychic ones?(Well as far as I know.)
Like Zakash said, the blood drinkers are much more noticable. . . also I think that, in the movie buisness strictly, that the blood drinkers are more interesting to watch than physic vampires, in my opinion I really don't think that they are as well known to people who don't research vampires. Possibly the blood drinkers are all they know. There are many reasons.
Like Zakash said, the blood drinkers are much more noticable. . . also I think that, in the movie buisness strictly, that the blood drinkers are more interesting to watch than physic vampires, in my opinion I really don't think that they are as well known to people who don't research vampires. Possibly the blood drinkers are all they know. There are many reasons.
Like Zakash said, the blood drinkers are much more noticable. . . also I think that, in the movie buisness strictly, that the blood drinkers are more interesting to watch than physic vampires, in my opinion I really don't think that they are as well known to people who don't research vampires. Possibly the blood drinkers are all they know. There are many reasons.
I found this one site that will sell you some type of charm to repel the effects of a psychic vamp. They stated that if would cause the psychic vamp to be darned instead. That would suck, literally. Thankfully it does not affect blood drinking vamps. Yay!
Yes I beleive that psychic vampires aren't know very much,for example I discovered that they existed from this site.
It's because most people see blood-drinking vampyres as scarier than psychic vampires. Personally I see them as intrigueing.
He drains energy from the soul and the life force of that person A pyschic vampire feeds on psychic energy from his victims only never blood.. than take full control over their victims every move.
They are more common and of the myth of the blood sucker. I myself am both a Psychic and a Sanguine vampire, so I'm on both sides of the coin basically.
I dont think what most people consider being a psychic vamp as being more of an empath who gets off on knowing how to read and act towards people to manipulate the person...and get off on swindling their emotions...but I doubt they "feed" on the emotions.
Hmmm....Well I think that vampires that suck blood are mentioned more because the human society knows more about them so they know how to kill them, they refuse to believe that physic vampires exist, that have even more powers than blood sucking Vampires...but that is just my idea, and I've never heard of physic vampires before (point proven huh?, lol), I'll do some research on them though...
Several have mentioned that they didn't know of a movie that spotlighted psychic vampires. One I can think of, to the extreme (leave that to Hollywood!), is Lifeforce. It's about astronauts that stumble upon a ship, with 3 sleeping "people". They take them back to earth and realize they are more or less, psychic vampires, but literally sucking the life force from you.
We have all encountered psychic vampires. They are those friends that keep talking, talking of themselves or their problems. They won't leave you alone, and you are completely wiped out, even sick feeling after they leave. But they are great!
Either take a shower after this, or jump up and down/dance. I was told this should help shake it away. And stay away from them! I have, and there are hardly any friends that can come around me anymore! Self preservation, people!
well first off like others had said previously there arent really any movies that actually show psy vamps so only the sangs are really though to be around so really to find anything out on the psys you have to rumage around a bit on the internet.....at least thats what ive found.
If you can only find proof of psy vamps on the internet how credible is that. And how naive are you for believing it.
Vampires have a psychic link to their victim. That does not mean they "feed" on their psychic energies, they control them. Most people who think they are psy vamps are just tapping into every humans ability to empathy. The human brain only uses 10% of its potential. Although with some of the asinine comments thrown around like a frisbee on Vr I doubt the majority even use THAT much.
yeah there are many different kinds but are all important..so they should all be mentioned equally..
No all are not equal. Vampires drink blood. Psy vamps are empathetic people who manipulate others to feel what they want to feel. Hustlers and Proverbial car dealers. Hell, I could sell you herpes if you let me.
I'm thinking the blood sucking vampires are mentioned more b/c some ppl such as hollywood think they are more "scary" and would appear more interestiong to the public
im a sang/psy vampire, sang might be more spoken of because its more taboo, but there are more psy vamps out there, so much easier to get energy that way
Anyone who can't prove to be a real vampire, yet still wants to live the whole "dark gothic" vampire existance lifestyle, claims to be a psy vamp or some such related thing.
Good point Jamie, and you just reminded me of another movie called "Cocoon" (1985), remember? With all the old people swimming in the water where the cocoons of the aliens were and then dancing and jumping like teens in a rock concert, while the sleeping aliens in the cocoons almost died...Can this be considered a form of showing pranic vampirism? Because old people have less life force then people at young age, so they unknowinlly "sucked" the life force available in the cocoons?
People want to read, see blood and gure and psychic vampire just don't do that. What more scary than having a creature of the night, undead biting your neck and drinking you dry. It might not be scary to us but for others it can be.
Would E.T> be considered a pst vamp as well, as he "fed" off elliot's "energy?
or am I going way off topic?
psych sang, taking giving, it can all be fun, but blood might be more risky so there could me more of and allure there
i think im gonna have to agree with everything lucios wolfe has said here i mean ive heard about psy vamps but i only seen sang vamps not just in movies but the point is i think psy vamps are just human psychics that have learned how to drain other humans life force so that would mean youd have to be born psychic also means theres no way to turn someone into one ....but this is all my opinion of course
Who knows maybe the word psychic is another misused word.
Maybe there are two types.Psy vamps people who can control your mind(who knows maybe they exist!) or that can feed off emotionsand energy feeders/energy vamps,those who feed on energy.
Then if it is put in that way,even business men,the media,society and laywers are vampires!
All of them control minds and feed upon money and power!!!
I believe psy vamps exist..they do use the emotional energy of others to feed themselves..and just because they are not the "traditional" vampires does not mean they are not real..I would like to see more movies about them, but I dont believe it will ever happen because the mainstream only wants to see fangs and blood..But being one myself, I take exception to the idea that we are just made up..I think that people should be more open minded than to only accept one classification of vamp..
i think psych vampires are kinda new and not nearly as sexual as blood
Hmmmm ... Well, the original question as to "Why" has clearly been addressed ...
I validate that the intrigue by the media and Hollywood for the Sang is clearly connected to Sex and Death ... which, as we know, is a money maker for those that care ...
Judging from the responses to this thread, it is clear that the Psy/Chi Vampyre has made enough of an impact to be threatening and/or distressing to some ...
With regard to their existence, it is well documented (Bunson, 1993; Konstatinos, 2000; & Melton, 1999) that the Psy/Chi Vampyre has its place within our culture and amongst our kind ... dating back centuries to include such entities as the incubus/succubus and the Greek Lamiai (Melton, 1999) ... Why we have a need to still debate this is beyond my understanding …
The "Mind Gift" employed by the Psy/Chi Vampyre can be "intentional" or "unintentional" (Konstatinos, 2000) and thus may explain those who doubt and are intolerant ... An exchange or taking or giving of energy is at the central core of what makes us Vampyres … As it should be!
Bloodlust, I am proud of you … good work in starting this thread … I do not often involve myself, but given that it is you that initiated it, I felt compelled … Be well, My Young Dark One!!
Rhiakath
Labels labels labels...That's all they are anyway....Look into Indigo's....that is an often misunderstood classification and can explain alot of the "happenings" associated with Psy vamps, and other stuff....Interesting concept though...
blood vamps are more traditional and metioned more in history, thats probably y u here more about them than anything else. i feed from blood, energy, sexual energy and peoples dreams. there are many like me, but u dont here about the psi vamps much.
It is also possible to be more than one kind of vamp at the same time, I believe...I am mostly psy, but I do occasionally drink blood..so I really dont know if it matters...I think its kind of an elitist attitude to assume sangs are the only "true" vamps
its bcause the movies and books and all that other dhit just talks about vampires drinking blood and they dont go in to other types of vampires they think what they want
Your question confuses me, so I will leave you with this quote from "freddy got fingered" :
"Uhh..thats an umbilical cord...its..there for fun...i...taped it there for fun...."
Forget Sanguines! Forget Psi! Tantra! There's a vamp no one talks about much. Eh?
I think that blood-drinkers are mentioned more often because they're synonymous with sex and forbidden lust, whereas psychic vampires are so common that people don't think of them as vamps. Who hasn't known someone who relies on the energy and emotions of their friends? But they don't want to admit that they're vampires.
i think a lot of psy vamp aren't even aware of it. some i know drain their victims without them nor the victim knowing. it's intresting.
Very true.
It is because there are intentioned(those who know they are) and unintensioned(those that don't know they are) psy-vamps.
Also when feeding off blood it is something visible while psy-vampirism is not.
People might be feeden off energy & emotions and they don't realise it.Why?Cause you can't see if a vampire is feeding off your energy or emotions.
Because, Sanguin vampires are noted on their feeding method. Some times its violent or other times it can be sensual.
Yet, the funny thing is, I know a buddy who was Diablerized, Which means his mentle blocks were broken and another vampyre took alot of his energy and mentally hurt him and screwed up his energy path ways. Which means it will take him a very long time to recover.
Now that is the horific side to Psy, but there isn't a real romance side to their feeding habbits, unless they are Emotion Pranic feeders, when sex can be such an item, yet so can rape.
- Sin
It's all because of tradition. The blood sucking vampires are known throughout history (mainly on the food chain) The psych. vampires do not get as much attention for they are not usually noticed by most, unless one knows A.What they are and B. What they do. To the normal person one wouldnt be able to tell if their energies or mental abilities were being tapped, they would only feel weakness, for there is no mark. (Except within ones aura)
well theres like pure blood vampires partical and humans with vampire qualties
I agree with touchcoma and deathnitegirl... A number of psyvamps don't realize (or admit) what they are. Most don't know how to control their feeding because they don't realize they're doing it, and some that are aware just don't know how to control it!
scionofrequim - I knew psyvamps could attack other psyvamps, but didn't know how horrible the effects could be! Yet I remember being in a mall at Christmas time years ago... it did feel like a physical attack! I was ill for days afterwards, and thank God it wasn't enough of an attack to really screw me up bad! As an empath, I tend to... stand out in the crowd to those who feed on emotion... (I'd felt overwhelmed by the emotions around me in crowds before, but had never before experienced the sensation of being attacked! I don't want to go through that ever again!)
Sanguines have just been more emphasized in the movies so psyvamps don't get mentioned as much. It's true but sad...so there you go.
These so-called psy-vamps are nothing more than a group of posers who are too afraid to drink blood. A bunch of cowards.
my view is tah t "psychic vamps" r just tring to fit into a crowd but they dont like blood so thats thier exuse they "feed"off energy and yes i have read that can actuly be done so they may not be lying so befor u judge wether a person is vamp or not conseder the posablity that they may hold the ability to drain psychic energy
Jamesthebloody please stop being so narrow minded. The ability to Drawn energy from other living targets and the elements about you has been in practice for years, more so then probably the evolution of Sanguine into Psychic and Pranic feeders.
As in martial arts the ability to steal Chi from the surrounding area and opponents has been a practiced used since the beginning of practicle use of combat for the styles.
In Magical working and ritual work the ability to pull energy from the other workers of the ritual and surrounding area to help in casting these spells was also something that has been in practice before martial arts and way into the early B.C. Era. So please, before you start going off about people being cowards about not taking blood, understand they choose a different means, a Safer and less noticiable means to feed.
- Sin
If you want to look more into this, look into any of the works of Micheal Bellinger. She is a very great writter when it comes down to opening up the mysteries of Vampyrism.
- Sin
yes there are psychic vamps and i know about them there are blood vamps and one other but my brain wont let me think of them. and i happen to be all of them.
I would hardly call myself narrow-minded. A bit of a tradionalist, perhaps, but in no way narrow-minded.I do not dispute the ability to drain psychic energies, but I do not label these people as Vampires. Do do so I belive is an insult to true Vampires.
You would not call the mouth of a whore as vacuum cleaner, unless of course you are making a crude joke, because they suck two different things, just as real Vampires and these psy-vamps. I hope my crude explaination cleared up my meanings.
Actually yes it does clear things up a bit James, sorry for my earilier comment about being narrow minded. I know people who dispute the same ideals as well. Yet, to each his own.
As for Darkness666, I belive it was, we all have the potential to draw from each source, some are better at manipulating certian sources for feeding, then others, where there are those well rounded enough to almost equally draw as much energy as possible with any means of feed; Pranic, Sanguin, Psychic, yet the only down fall with that is, the draws aren't as powerful as though you were more aspected towards a single and secondary feeding type.
- Sin
michelle bellanger is a good source of info on vampires the entire lot of them no matter what the genre :)
I refure to her more often now then I do the Strigoi Vii Teachings. Mainly do to the fact a lot of her stuff was used in the Strigoi Vii teachings, not to mention she isn't delusional as the creator and his synode for the Strigoi Vii teachings.
- Sin
The following are also excellent books to read:
"The Ethical Psychic Vampire" by Raven Kaldera. There is a chapter in this book that deals with sanguine feeding.
Practical Vampyrism for Modern Vampyres by Lady CG
Both of these books plus "The Psychic Vampire Codex" by Michelle Belanger can be purchased through Amazon.com
I highly recommend all three.
Not sure I've ever heard of the Raven woman. Yet like I've been saying before, Bellenger is worth the effort to look into.
- Sin
sin theres tons of reading on this subject to do .mairi aka rowan tears gives good resources ..she knows her stuff on lots of vampire stuff and also other kin info :) she herself is quite the resource and worth getting to know ;)
These creatures exist. They weasel their way into your thoughts . They learn about you and attempt to manipulate you. They pretend to be your friends only to suck the energy out of you.
they might be mentioned more, in my opinion just for the meare fact that even vampires themselfs have been separated & judged, meaning that by a name that is giving to you then you might be considered more inportant or not. Is all bull.... even on a vampire world " ".
not many ppl know about the other kinds of vampires thats why they are hardly mentioned...
Sounds like Fangor has a problem with those of the Condition. As for Rowen, yes she does have a lot of knowledge about the Vampyric side of the occult, which a bit of us do to some extent. I've never found anything worth looking into in regards to books, but as of late, do to the Fraters and Sorors of House Aeterno, I've been given some recomendations of books to look into.
So I will have to explore into those books a bit more. Most of my knowledge comes from personal experience, ideals, and those experiences of my friends and community members upon a vampire/occult site I go to from time to time.
As for Otherkin, Fae, and Therians, I have very little knowledge on.
- Sin