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WhiteTrashDruid
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I am doing some research and have noticed that many here claim to be true vampires. Vampires are said to be immortal. Many claim to be born a vampire. At what point do you stop aging when you are born as an immortal? (At least in the Highlander movies/series, it was whenever you first died. But no one claims that its fact..) I would truly like to hear from someone who is immortal. Where and when were you born? Actual dates that can be researched. Who was ruling in your place of origin? What were the predominant religions and traditions? How are you adapting with the times? How much do you remember?




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This is going to be like finding a needle in a haystack full of fakes. Good luck.



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02:59:38 Nov 24 2005
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Exactly. Thats what I want to see.



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Let me know how you get on if you could, I'm quite interested in this one.



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Let me repost what you have obviously missed. Maybe this will help you understand the reason behind my thread. Thank you.



I would truly like to hear from someone who is immortal.

Where and when were you born? Actual dates that can be researched.

Who was ruling in your place of origin? What were the predominant religions and traditions?

How are you adapting with the times?

How much do you remember?



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03:50:12 Nov 24 2005
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Stay on topic, please. I don't really want to have to clean up this thread, again. Or close it.



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no vampyre is immortal, except two according to my lord, we do age slower. i am not sure on the date, if u would like to know for sure, message lordofnoctemaeternus. i am not a fake. i am the real deal, i am vampyre, i am no poser.



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We are excluding the House of Noctemaeturnus as they are Role playing and nothing more. We are looking for actual facts, i.e. documentation(verifiable) and true knowledge of when they came to be. I have always read that vampires are extremely intelligent because of their accumilated knowledge throughout the centuries. we were hoping for true confirmation. Thank you though.
Can you prove you age slower? Can you present an actual birth certificate? That is what we are searching for.



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It is already difficult in real life,from the internet it is going to be more.

Good luck,am very pleasead you brought up this subject.



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...all i have to say is this...if you were a real vampire...what gain would you get from admiting it to everyone?...i think if i were a vampire i keep it to my self...but thats just me...



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I have to agree with Gnikhos...I don't think any true immortal will expose it self in this thread...If it's their ways to protect their identities by keeping them secret, so they can continue to have a quiet life without being the subject of scientific study, I see the true ones answering in the internet like showing in the news: no way in hell. I wouldn't...But I bet you're getting a bunch of "interesting" messages *laughs* - sorry, I just had to.- Anyway, good luck. It will be very interesting to find the real deal...If it's out there somewhere.



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Well, We are glad to see that no-one reads the thread and contributes to a research forum post except to boost post ratings. Obviously our goal is to find out how many individuals on Vr who claim to be purebloods and "TRUE" vampires can back their claim. Obviously NO-ONE can. Although we appreciate everyone comments(although useless and meaningless), there seems to be a trend of hypocrisy to those who posted "facts and links" (Miz and others) while feeling the need to express thier obvious pessimism towards our hopeful quest to see who is actually a TRUE VAMPIRE ON THIS SITE.



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Well if I was something similar(which I don't believe in it anyway) then why in other threads and in thier profiles they write am an immortal vampire than don't reply a thread where the questions is asked?

No offense to anyone but if you truly believe in what you are than why not answering this question?



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Lol I confised it I meant If I was something similar I wouldn't say it either,but then if a person in her profile writes she is an immortal vampire and in other threads says so,then why not respond to this?



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hey, That was not my intention. I'm not being pesimistic, I just think that a point is being proven here.
Like Deathnitegrl said, all the people that have the Immortality trait on their profiles feel shy when it comes to answering with specific and veryfiable(sp?) data. Why is that? Is it because it's true, or because they're lying?
That was my point. Not to be pessimistic or to bring your research down. If there's a true Immortal out there, I sure would like to know too.



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As far as immortals go Hollywood has infected the minds of the human races with fictitious propaganda. It is unfortunate that we are born to die but with the help of modern medicine we now can extend our lives to reach the age of ninety or one hundred + but that is as far as a human body can live in this time and age.



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13:10:51 Nov 24 2005
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But can you elaborate on your birth as a vampire. I mean anything that can ACTUAL prove you to BE vampire, or is it just your word?



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13:11:53 Nov 24 2005
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My great grandmother lived to 102, does that mean SHE was a vampire?



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13:12:59 Nov 24 2005
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As a latino(puerto rican) we have a dish called blood sausage, does that mean ALL latinos are vampires?



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We are looking for that ONE person to claim to be an immortal, and Ive seen people state that on here. Why they don't come forth is beyond me.



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So, what's a REAL vampire?



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Lol give it time Lucious,a lot of people are still off line at the moment.

Wait maybe later on someone will post it.



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lucioswolfe God bless her that she is 102 but I doubt she would live to 150 or more. Please do not put words into my mouth I was stating that most people do not reach that age and if they do then it is gravy. But it does not mean that they are a Vampire or immortal.



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As far as the dish you mention there are many cultures that use blood in there food but it does not make them Vampires. In earlier days all parts of the animal where used for everything and anything nothing was wasted. So that would make almost half the world Vampires?



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The only thing immortal about me would be my soul for the body is a shell and will decay.



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As for what D.A. mentioned about the food with blood, yes, I agree with it. We have that hear. Blood as soup and bits and pieces or small bones of a pig or cow and we eat it. It's quite a dish. But, it doesn't mean we're vampires.



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Since this IS WTD thread I'll will now give all questions to be answered by her. She now awakes from her nocturnal slumber.



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(Nocturnal slumber my ass, I passed out from drinking. *snort*)

Well, I see alot has gone on in my absence, and thank you Jason for taking care of that. All I'm looking for, is that everyone who is CLAIMING in other threads, and their profiles, to be immortal... Prove yourself. Prove to me what you say you are, so that I may believe you now. I'm not trying to weed out the posers, or pick on anyone. I just want facts. People state that they're immortals, down to 14 yr old vampires that claim they were born that way. Why not present me some facts? Everyone here knows how I am, I'm the first to scream Poser. I don't want to be like that anymore. I want to believe, so give me a reason to.

If you don't want to "come out" in the thread, please message me.

But to all of those who have wished me luck, or have left their comments about what I will or won't find.. I'm a big girl. I can handle the assholes. I live with Lucios.



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I'm not sure if there are real immortals but a good place thttp://forum.darkness.com/index.phpo search would be:



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The only thing I know to be true is they age a hell of a lot slower and well good luck on finding your answers



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As for the food thing that happens even were I live we have a dish called blood pudding and there are some people who like the steak a bit raw that surely doesn't make them vampires hehe.



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i am not imortal i don't think, but i do heal quick, does that count



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I've never claimed to be immortal. Merely an HLV. Just means my body is slightly different than a normal human's body. Nowhere in my profile do I state that I am immortal. The only immortality is achievable by works of your creation.



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WTD, if you don't like posers then you're hanging out on the wrong site, methinks. The subjectmatter alone would tend to draw them like flies, don't you think?

Live and let live, I say. As innocuous as you are attempting to sound, it's coming across like browbeating and hostility.

My opinion. I don't honestly believe that any true immortal is going to reveal themselves to you in a thread on a website. Do you?

The immortality issue is bound to come up around here. People are going to claim to be immortal. I say let them have their fun. I know you don't think you're sounding antagonistic, but I think other might agree with me that, you sort of are.

Do what you want, I'm just tossing in my 2 cents.

Oh, and i'm not immortal, either. :-) I don't even like blood sausage.



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But why is it sounding like browbeating. All I'm reading is people getting defensive over something that obviously offends them. Why? I find it funny all those who aren't immortal getting so defensive.



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this is a site for people who are, believe they are, or just wanting to know about vampires



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Well said Buddajon, but I think I know where Lucious and WTD are getting at.
You have a point: If the hood doesen't fit, why does one have to get defensive?
I love blood sausage, here in Portugal we cook rice with chicken blood, I love my stakes rare, and I'm not a vampire and I sure ain't immortal...I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to get some facts straight, as long as people don't feel attacked, or act like they're being attacked, when actually what I think is that this thread is just asking for facts.
If no one can't present facts, or is unwilling to give them, I think no one should feel offended either.



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WhiteTrashDruid
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buddajon... Yes. I know this by now.

I'm not trying to attack anyone.. people weed themselves out by getting all defensive anyway. I just want some proof. Thats all I'm asking for.



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TO anyone who actually reads the threads and stuff I am just wondering what is the defintiion in these times of a true and REAL vampire? I think regardless of what anyone says there is going to be no concrete evidence. Good luck finding what you seek.



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There are plenty of other threads that define vampires.. thats not what I'm here to find. I just want information on people who claim to be immortal.



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i feel that this will be basically impossible to either prove or disprove



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Well, maybe back when an old Vampire was born they could live longer than 100 years. I don't think that any REAL Vampires are going to come forth, cause honestly they don't have the proof. If they are old Vampires then they have changed their names and identities many times to keep from being revealed, therefor all birth certificates, etc. have been done away with to keep it that way. I just think it's funny that we have this site to find possible REAL Immortal vampires and no one wants to believe it, everyone wants to blame it on Hollywood. I would like to believe it, considering not much of anything else is worth believing to me. Lets please keep this Fantasy of many people alive. And thank you POSERS for keeping many of us believing in our own Fantasy. It would be really great if a true IMMORTAL Vampire were to reveal themselves. But this thread, and other websites help prove that society is yet still not ready for that. I do love this thread and many others though, so keep em coming. Just food for thought.



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This is weird...Iv'e seen a few real noticable fakes...I agree with many people, IF I was a True vampire, I would not expose myself to anyone.



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There is nothing weird about this for a thousand years people have searched for immortality. Legends, folklore, myths all exist pertaining to this but none have ever been proved. So does it exist? Only in our dreams….



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Well, enough people on here claim to be immortal! Why is it that when I call them out, none of them have anything to say?



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I would believe it's more of a wish.

Let's see if this helps:

Come out,come out wherever you are!



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good luck :-)



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No, luciuswolfe. I understand that completely. But as you have said before if the Immortal Vampires come forth they would be put under a microscope, so why would they want to come forth at all. Even with all the other records all you have to do is look it up of what religion and ceremonies happened way back when, so nobody still wouldn't believe them. Even with all the proof it's still hard to prove that you are a REAL Immortal Vampire, plus you wouldn't wanna reveal yourself, would you?



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It is time to reveal myself.
I cant stand humiliations from mortals!
I am a true vampire!!in fact one of the elder ones and of course immortal,because true kindreds r immortal.
I was born in 2003 b.c.in ancient Greece and yes I have the certificates.
At the age of 30 ,I participated in the trojan war and there it happen to meet a soldier named Napoleon!that he was the vampire that turned me.
I have prooves of my participation and of war of course,I have one copy of the tape that Leni Riefenstahl! gave me after biting her ?
In fact leader of greeks was Adolf Hitler!that was under the name of agamemnon back then,yes he was an elder vampire too.
After the war I left from greece,travelling all over the world for many centuries until my journey ended up In Scotland,and here Ive met one of my best friends ever ,Connor Mac Leod! aka Highlander!
For those who saw the movie im spotted in some scenes!
After scotland I ended up in France and I almost loose my head by that psychos revolutioners,I met Marie Antoinette of course and we had a quick? relationship(Damn she was Hot as hell!)
Centuries passed,Ivelost beloved friends but im used of that now.
I now live in the land Iwas born again and I work in a bank(yes Im a proffesional bloodsucker and Im getting paid).
We have many clubs around the world with lots of members.
We feed ourselves only with those that we judge that arent worthy to live and we turn only great personalities not 15 or 16 years old kids,we want to make the world ours with capable persons.
Beware mortlas cause the fate of humanity is in our immortal Hands


P.S.
Noone from here is a true vampire,they r all fake ones!



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Danaos I love you. You made my fucking day. =)



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I come with an open mind to all. I would like to see who comes forward with the information that is sought. :)



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The quote worked yay for me:)



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12:39:37 Nov 26 2005
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I thought I was Sarcsastic, lmao.



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lucioswolfe
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13:28:31 Nov 26 2005
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I was all into the story until the highlander came up...lol



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myradu
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14:21:11 Nov 26 2005
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our looks age slower, we dont live forever or for extended period of times.



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lucioswolfe
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14:25:42 Nov 26 2005
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Uh, sorry, Only Immortals need contribute. Not Born vampires(RPGers) since mid september.



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Emaerald
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15:13:12 Nov 26 2005
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LMAO Lucios!! come on give them a chance baby..



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WhiteTrashDruid
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15:19:52 Nov 26 2005
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Look we've already had our problems with a certain person who posted here, they're only posting to antagonize now. I won't point out who because it doesn't pertain to this thread. Also, there is no difference between "vampire" and "vampyre" , its just a difference of spelling. There is only a difference if you're heavy into roleplaying games.



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buddajon
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19:38:23 Nov 26 2005
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i still wouldn't mind it



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Kaylanna
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21:26:26 Nov 26 2005
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I am sorry, I would like to help you with your research, but I do not remember much of my time.



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myradu
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01:35:01 Nov 27 2005
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the person whom started this forum post and her fiance are ignorant and dont want to listen to anyone, they are stupid becuz they think they know everything and everyone is wrong. and becuz he dosent know how to shut his disrespectful mouth he will pay for it.

Jason Say: Welcome to your suspension. Attacking other members in public forums is a no-no. Read the FAQ.



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lucioswolfe
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03:51:14 Nov 27 2005
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"Well to start I am a Mradu in the House of Noctem Aeternus. I have been in this house for a long time now and enjoy being what I am. I have been vampyre since mid september. So I am realitively young to this lifestyle."~myradu

Let's not begin with the mudslinging. If your problem is with me. I have told you before I BLOCKED you. One day we WILL meet and then it will be settled. Until then grow up, work out, eay your veggies, and if you have nothing constructive, or relavant to post.relating to the threads question. Don't post.



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Sidhe
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04:03:06 Nov 27 2005
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myradu: Please read the forum guidelines before posting.

https://www.vampirerave.com/faq.php#12

Specifically: No Rude, obnoxious, hate, or flame posts.



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Jason
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04:38:58 Nov 27 2005
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What she said.



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Emaerald
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11:49:02 Nov 27 2005
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Amen, no more, no more, I am closing this thread and it may not be reopened for additional comments by the author. Deletions to this thread duly noted, please confer :)



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