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I thought this article I found was quite interesting:
A dhampir (also dhamphir or dhampyr) is a being that is half-vampire and half-human, born from a vampire father and a human mother. In some beliefs, the vampire father is the deceased husband of the widowed mother. Dhampirs, in comparison with normal human beings, are unusually adept at killing vampires. The word "dhampir" is associated with folklore of the Roma people of the Balkans.

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In the Balkans it is believed that vampires have a great desire for women, so a vampire will return to have intercourse with his wife or with a woman he was attracted to in life. Throughout the area the term dhampir refers to the offspring of a vampire and a human; terms for such a being that are used in various subregions include vampijerović, vampirić ("little vampire"), and lampijerović; in some regions the child is named "Vampir" if a boy and "Vampiresa" if a girl, or "Dhampir" if a boy and "Dhampiresa" if a girl. In other areas it is believed that the offspring of a vampire will "be slippery like jelly, and cannot live" (Vukanovic 1957-1959, pt. 3, p. 112).

Among all Balkan peoples it is believed that the child of a vampire can see and destroy vampires. Among some groups, the ability to see vampires is considered exclusive to dhampirs. The powers of a dhampir may be inherited by the dhampir's offspring. Various means of killing or driving away vampires are recognized among peoples of the region, but the dhampir is seen as the chief agent for dealing with vampires. Methods by which a dhampir kills a vampire include shooting the vampire with a bullet, transfixing it with a hawthorn stake, and performing a ceremony that involves touching "crowns" of lead to the vampire's grave. If the dhampir cannot destroy a vampire, he may command it to leave the area.

A dhampir is always paid well for his services. The amount of money varies, but there is never bickering over the price. Standard pay for a dhampir may also include a meal or a suit of clothing. Sometimes a dhampir is paid in cattle.

Quite often[citation needed], charlatans traveling the regions around the Carpathian Mountains and elsewhere in Eastern Europe would claim to be dhampirs. Operating by the original myth of vampyr (old spelling, both singular and plural) as spirit creatures, they were the only ones who could see the spirit and would put on elaborate shows for villages, often wrestling with an invisible foe until it was then trapped in a brass vessel. Usually a dhampir would wait until there was a death in a village.[citation needed] As rural people tended to be more superstitious, unnatural explanations would be believed for unusual events, real or imagined (such as believing to have seen the dead walking the village at night). The belief was that the vampyr would take over the recently dead corpse, for as long as it would last, to invade villages. They fed off life force directly, not by blood, sometimes killing victims in close proximity so life leaving the body could be consumed more quickly.) Once fear, grief and superstition took hold in a village following a recent death, the dhampir would "come to the rescue".[citation needed]

Sometimes I would think of myself as a breed like this because I'm still searching, yet still don't know where I fit in, darkness or light.




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This is interesting. It seems that with the Romney (sp), mixes of Vampires and other kin where more than alittle common. There is a breed with which one of my house members identifies that is called a dramphiell. It is a "mortal" cross between a dragon and a vampire. Personally I indentify myself with dragons as my "other kin" and as a vampire. But not as a cross. (as in my past life I was a dragon that got turned by a vampireish thingy) But I my meaning is (aside from rambling) that I wonder what else is out there thats half vampire half ..........



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhampir

http://www.bloodbathers.co.uk/dhampir.htm

There are many links out there if you are willing to search through the wayward blarbs that all revolve around the VTM RPG, books based on free base RPG and the Vampire Hunter D series.

Encyclopedia Mythica, however seems to me as one of the more true faced versions as it looks past the falsities and focuses merely to the myth and lore surrounding the species itself... this is the link
http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/demons/emvampires.htm



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dhampires are not only sons of a vampire father and a human woman,dhampires born between humans too,all dhampires are not hunters,some are good or evil,depends of the dhampire and they are very lonely,and diferent of full blod vampires in a way



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It is a subculture among subculture. The "Roma People" are also known by a more common name here, I believe..gypsy. More specifically Romanian gypsy...now why do you suppose that is?? Ok..I will give you a hint.
Vlad Tempest inherited his "castle" upon the death of his father in a tumolos time. The Turks have invaded Hungary and were howling like rabid dogs at the gate of Romania. The queen entrusted Vlad with one task and one task only...Hold the gate, no matter what the cost, for if they take it all will be lost. In Romania at this time the population consisted mainly of Hungarian nobles and their families...and gypsies. Homeless desperate starving people. So Vlad formed one of the most horrific army ever to be released on earth with these desperate souls.
As the war continued Vlad formed a tight bond with these people, who followed him loyaly to the ends of the earth for giving them a home, and pride in themselves once again. And so the stories that Vlad slept with some of their women is quite probably true.
The Romanian Gypsies to this day have some very fascinating history to tell about this time...but please remember that Vlad..and well as his cousin Bathory were Hungarian Nobles.



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19:01:09 Aug 05 2006
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Katarina,

Are you implying that Vlad of Wallachi actually was not human?

And that he is the progenitor of Dhampir creatures?

For is so, I am beginning to find these topics on Vlad verging into the truly ridiculous.




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first off I enjoyed the reading...It was very good....Made me think of Vampire Hunter D first off....Yeah there are many story and myths about such things...and as for Vlad Tepes being one, or him being the origin I don't think so...He was just a ruthless leader in a less advanced society where superstitions were still believed as truths...Vampire myths and beliefs were around long before Vlad...He is just the center piece/ figure head so to speak because Bram Stohker used his name....



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I'm glad all of you enjoyed my article, but let's try not to start a fight on Vlad Tepess, that should be put into another thread. And yes, mostly all Dhampirs ARE hunters, whether you believe it or not.



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As far as Dhampirs go, yes alot are hunters, but not all. In the House I live in (myself and 2 other roomates) we all are dhampirs... all are proficent in archaic weapons of different types and all of us also know the ways of guns as well. That does not make any of us hunters. What makes the hunter is the being decides to go after his undead parent. That is what makes the Hunter...
Btw , there are many type of Hunters and also many different race of them. Ty for this and I did enjoy the posts .
Bites and Kisses,
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Must be an interesting living arrangment lol.

I've not heard of those till now. Very informative



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02:07:37 Aug 06 2006
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thats wht i was trying to say i am a dhampire too and i am not a hunter



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This was a very interesting read... it must have taken some extensive research... But if the said offspring, really was a child of a vampire, it probably would not be able to live, but then again, Blade's mother was bitten by a vampire while she was pregnant with him, so I guess it would really depend on your opinion and what beleifs you follow...



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05:22:33 Aug 06 2006
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this is very interesting considering that i thought the vampires can breed.



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I'm a bit confused considering that undead vampire do not exist, dragon do not exist, and we've just determined that slayers do not *really* exist per Daermon's thread that none of you spoke up on. Perhaps you can explain what exactly a dhamphir is in *possible* terms?



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First off, Volash, APPLAUSE!

Secondly....Vampires are walking corpses. How, exactly, do they breed?



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dhampirs arent that common, but i know two.. i lived on the balkan for quite a long time and know their traditions... the roma an some transilvanian ppl and some serbian ppl believe in dhampirs and vampirs, but the times the ordinary ppl believe in that are long gone



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okay for Scybermonk and Volush (???) if you paid close attention to my first post and the other websites listed, you would already know by now. I know the saying blind as a bat, but this is ridiculous. Now for a Dhampir to be born, a vampire must copulate with a human for it to happen....



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Vulash
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You quoted wikipedia. Big whoop. Ps you got my vowels wrong speaking of blind bats. I stand by my statement - this thread is rediculous as a factual thread, and I'd like to see some proof, or at least an explanation about how this is being taken seriously as a *real* thread about *real* monsters that are half vampire, half human, half dragon, and whatever else they are that are slaying undead vampires.

If you had presented this as a study of fiction I'd have no issues with it, but you have not, and are not. So please come up with more then wikipedia.



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I WANT EVERYBODY TO READ THIS
i am a dhampire but you dont really need to be the son of a vampire and a human,cos there is something called "past lives"you vampire soul live for hundreds of years when the corpse where is your soul die ,the vampiric soul look for other corpse where the vampiric soul can awake again,"this its me"i mean my situation.



A mortal offspring resulting from a union between a mortal woman and vampire male or the opposite.most people believe that vampires cannot procreate this way this is a false,but occasionaly a child can result from such a union.nature does not ignore that the father is vampire or the mother.in occasions is not necesary be the son of a vampire and human,because some childs have the vampire inside of them called(latent vampire)need to be awake but he or she is not going to be full vampire is going to be a "dhampire".the meldings of these 2 worlds of human and vampire gives the dhampire many strange abilities include quick movements,enhanced senses,longevility ,sometimes unnatural charisma,and sometimes too the ability to recognize those of vampire blood.
MOST of the people and vampires think that this make dhampires naturaly effective vampires hunters and can make their lives dangerous.
NOT all dhampires become hunters,depends instinct of the dhampire and their relationship with vampires.people always think that us are hunters but not all of us are hunters.
THE vampiric power of the dhampire are powered by blood,such as the vampire father or mother.
THEY are some dhampires ,however that are able to use their vampiric powers without relying on blood.these are rare form of dhampires ,they are not hampered by the need to feed when the bloodlust call them .
SOME dhampires upon reaching the adulthood,the dhampire will have dreams ,in this dreams they will see images of their fathers or mother vampire,these dreams serve to bring the father and child close together.
THE dhampire will be drawn to find the father and mother and will seek him or her,at times to kill the sire.





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Never nice thread..People tend to believe what they want and see no further then the end of there noses it is sad when some lack imagaination what I read is the spirirt of the dead person visits the women..This is covered in many traditions actually have a ghost/spirit have sex with a human..Vald well yes he was asked to do a hard job he wasnt super natural however just a man that over did the job he was asked to do he had a revenge kick going on whoever wrote about him..

Dhampir is a very interesting subject Vulash I saw it like i said the spirit these kind of stories arent uncommon even here in America folk lore is full of them..
What makes you believe he has taken this as anything other then what he had in the beginning is beyond me I wish people would be constructive not put people down I dont see many decent threads here in the first place why not discuss the possiblities of all things and all things are possible unless you close yourself to them...
That is what a discussion is for yes?



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Thank you Sombra and Mikhail. As you can see, this certainly is not fictionalized, and seriously, who in the darkest name do you think you are just bashing my thread here? I did not just go to wikpidia, I remembered a few years ago when I had to do a research project back in college that was linked to a condition back in one of my science classes. I can't remember the title of the book, but it was one of those vampire a-z books, which was how I found out more about the dhampirs.



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Dark Greeting's, I am a Dhrampyre as is my lil bro.We
know quite a few.Great Research very informitive,I wish more people knew of us.One mistake,most of us DO NOT hunt Vampires.Personally there blood tastes wonderful.Also most Vamps consider us abominations or are fasinated with us.Most of us arn't excepted by humans or Vamps.But again very nice research Vv...vV
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Wow...that is cool. half of each...daywalker, eh?



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I have to voice the same question as Scybermonk now....dang thats going to eat at me for a while. But EXCELLENT post!!!



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Ok, Im seeing alot of "this doesnt exist, that doesnt exist, the other isnt real" Well, I have a couple of questions.
First, what is your definition of "undead"? Is is dead then somehow magickally came back. Or maybe its a walking moaning corpse. Well, if its the first one, then Id say you are mistaken that there is no such thing as on more than one account I have been declaired dead by a medical doctor and then after several hours, I somehow find my way back. So, fitting into the first catigory, I am UNDEAD and I promise, I DO EXIST!
Second, If you cant believe that dragons exist as other kin, how can you believe in Vampires and all this other stuff? It either all exists on some level, weither we want to believe it or like it or not, Or none of it, including the creator, magick, your best friend, love, hate, and on and on.
And Last, Who can prove to me beyond ALL doubt that dragons do not no did they ever exist? When you can prove that you me, Ill be Catholic again....aka A cold day in Hell or an exciting day in pergatory before that happens!

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does that mean blade was a Dhampir?

i'd be interested to know where you found the article, sometimes things people write to explain fiction becomes known as truth.



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I never heard that. Thanks for posting that, Vary interesting.



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I was going to just let this thread go, but you know what? I'm not wrong no matter how many people post here and say I am. I'm going to attempt to keep this as nuetral as possible, however.

Two sentences of the entire original post were not from wikipedia - I stated as such. You could have a PhD on Dhampirs if you want, but none of that information was in this post - just wikipedia. You're entire profile is about Vampire Hunter D which further strengthens my argument.

I stand by my original posts. There is simply no way you can convince me that half the stuff mentioned in this thread is more then an attempt to "show off". I find it ludicrous and rediculous that I'm having to stand alone as pointing this out even. I don't not feel that i Need to prove that claiming you were a dragon in a past life that got bit by a vampiric creature and caused some odd halfbreed is a rediculous claim. I feel common sense should do that for me. Same as someone claiming to be half dragon half vampire, and even half vampire half human when we are talking about hollywood style vampires. Which is exactly what this post was about. Coming in after the fact to think up possible scenarios with spirits or sanguins doesn't change the intent of this thread, and most of the posts in it.

My whole point I guess - is that these types of threads to me, at least, are a little tiresome to sift through. It's the reason we had a thread about false "hunter" threads, and also about roleplaying. This forum is for good debate about possible things, or, if we are going ot debate fiction to do so knowing that is what it is. I could claim to be the descendant of a troll that bred with a banshee and no one could prove me wrong, but that doesn't make it so, and asking you guys to discuss it seriously because "anything is possible" would be crazy.

If I'm that far off base here, then a dominar can let me know and I'll keep it to my journal and simply not sugar coat it.



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don't not feel = don't feel

don't ask me how



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