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MinxyMoon
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I have a question for you.. I am TOTALLY, completely fascinated with Astral Travel (planing).. A close friend of mine is attempting to get me to do this.. he says he knows I can do it as I am very spiritually open and atuned, with a sense of psychic awareness.. he says I am missing out on a lot of wonder.
We plan to do it on the next full-moon, Under the moon.

OK.. My question is..

When you are IN the state of astral-travel.. and you go to someones Home/or place to visit someone.. Could they 'sense' you/your presence.. In the same sense SOME people can sense a spirit?
Do you see the place as it is?
Have you been to visit a person, not know where they are, BUT you 'find' them thru placing the person in your mind?
Are you still aware of your surroundings at the place you 'really' are?
Ooops.. Turned in to a few questions, But this is a new adventure for me, and I'm very interested to hear your experienced views on it.




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I've only done it a few times and never travelled to someones house, but i know that some people are more aware of the presence than others. Also i've always had a lingering picture of myself where my physical body is, possibly so i know how to get back?



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CryingMist
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I do it often more then I wish for, and when I do its like you see the place but in a kind of a fraction and it all rush in, if no one disturb you, it goes well. If someone does then its like you are in a roller coaster and end up back where you were extremlly fast. As for others to sesn your presence I did not yet had anyone felt it, but I have heard so can, even tho its rare. Mainly the ones who can are the ones who also can travel cause they kind a see you for a one billion fraction of a second and it imprint in theirmidn your presence, most will ignore it, but I have heard some will be so aware they will notice it clearly.



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LordVerbal
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In my experiences in astral travel I never went around people because the whole purpose for me doing it is to kind of get away from everything and clear my mind, so the last thing I wanted to see was a person... lol



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It all depends, the person or people I am visiting have no idea that I am even there unless I do the eight sense which is touching them; they would just think it's in their mind or a ghost. I can see clearly of the place as it is, and the person like you are literly there in form; but they have never seen me. I have to be aware of my surrounds in order for it to work.



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MinxyMoon
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15:51:18 May 24 2007
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CryingMist.. thank you for your responce.. ti helped me to understand things better.



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Sounds facinating! I've not yet acheive that level of meditation. I do plan some things for this Blue Moon though.



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MichelleR
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I haven't got to the astral level myself, although I'm hoping to soon. However, I did have an incident the other day that would pertain to this subject very well. A vampire friend of mine had gone into a trance while he was driving getting ready to "hunt" and he wrecked his truck. At the exact same time that he wrecked his truck I had been woken up by a feeling I was being starred at and that there was a prescence watching me. I told him about it and he said that the description I had fit him to a T. I'm not sure how he did it but I thought it to be rather odd that he could. Just thought I'd share.



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I use it when i just need to get away i found astral travel quite soothing for me. The hardwst thing is training the mind to relax.. After a few times it becomes easier.



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traveling outside of the body is an extremely hard thing to do. It takes lots of practice and the ability to meditate without any interruptions at all. You also need a strong bond with the place or person you are searching for. I have heard people that say they have done it, but I have never meet anyone. Sounds fascinating.



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MinxyMoon
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17:39:44 May 24 2007
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MichelleR.. thanks honey.. that is fascinating.



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RavenKnight
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Im pretty sure when you Astral Travel you are aware of your sourounding and no one can tell that your around, but i dont know to much about this subject...



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EternalXRage
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Here is some advise hun. Get an amulet to protect your body from invasion before you try this. It's always good to be protected from spiritual attacks of any kind. But when you leave your body it is more vulnerable.



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MinxyMoon
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19:39:57 May 24 2007
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Heck!! Oh Yeah.. I NEVER thought of that!! Can i entwine with 'spirits'?

Damn!! might be fun!

*Elvis.. Is that YOU?*



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Yes, you can connect with people and they will KNOW it. There are several books out there that can guide you. Try 'Astral Projection' by: Denning and Phillips. It's one of those--- dare I say it... Llewllyn Pratical Guides. They are still perfect for those in beginning stages.


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Annakeeya
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Astral-Travel, well yes I have heard f this, I do this and stay in contact with most of my family.



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there is a lot of good advice here. DO protect your physical body with a talisman and a circle of protection.. if you dont know how to create a circle of protection, contact me, and i'll guide you through it.

whether you can be sensed by other people or not depends on the sort of spirit travel you do. i used to know a couple who would regularly hold meetings in the spirit realm. but there are three basic forms of spirit travel - astral travel in the "real world", astral travel in an external spirit world, and travel within an internal, personal spirit world. the last one is only within yourself, and will not relate to the outside world, even though it may look just like it.

it is safest to practice spirit walking in this world first, before you progress to actually leaving your body.



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shadowedlight
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Yes, you can definitely "send' your spirit to the house of a close friend for example. It is definitely possible for them to feel your presence there.



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darklord19
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i would like to be able to that. i wish i could especialy with my martial arts training. but some people can do it some cant. so i stick to spells potions



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Karnstein has taken the words out of my very mouth it seems.

Always protect yourself well when working with astral travel until you are confident enough to be able to travel and protect both your astral body and your physical body.

I have been practising astral projection for many years now and usually "go astral" every day. I have done since i was the tender age of 13 although at first i had no idea what i was doing (some would call it lucid dreaming until you become aware of what you are doing).

I now consider myself to be adept at astral travel and have found not only that others can sometimes sense your presence, but also that you can meet others who perform astral projection often.

When I first started I had little contorl over the time aspect of astral projection and everything passed by me as a blurrr....but after many years of practise and a strong will I have found ways of slowing the process of time during astral travel down.

Some would say that I slow time...but in essence i just take more notice of what is going on around me than some do.

I now use astral projection as a form of meditation and also use it to help with research into various forms of magick.

I have been learning astral magick (the art of creating desired effects whilst in an astral state) for many years.

If there is anything that anyone would like to ask me about astral projection and/or the many places that can be visited in astral form please do not hesitate to message me.

Dark Blessings

M.



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01:59:48 May 25 2007
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I ve only astral traved in my sleep or when I have sensed danger from someone that is very close to me



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LadyDarla
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i have had this happen a few times... i am in the process of still learning and trying to figure the diffrences from past life to obe and astral... i am a person that deals with dreams... things come and go and happen to me in my dreams all the time... kinda crazy and hard for me to explain sometimes... just be careful... alot has to do with how open you are... thats just my opinion... wicked kisses and blessed be, darla...



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MinxyMoon
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Menerfecious, IndigoBizarre... & Karnstein Thank you very much for your input.
My Journey with Astral Travel/planing is about to commence (properly). I'm just tryin to read the 'what to expect manual'
from people That have already acheived this..



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as i have mentioned befor i have only acheved this once and it was by accident, i never travelled to people, infact i dont know where i was, all i know was there were cliff's there!



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xRoguex
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As far as I know the experience is different for many people some dream like, some its more real. However hun enjoy the experience, relax have fun and good luck with it all.



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TheCryingDutchess
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Astral projection is not easy to achieve no matter what anyone says. Tibetan monks have practiced for years before being able to achieve the level of focus required. It's an amazing process and truly centers your mind and spirit.

To answer your question, you wouldn't be detected by most people. It is possible that someone hyper-sensitive could sense energy. I have never heard of someone being "seen".

Good luck with your endeavor, you will surely appreciate the experience =)



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cryingmoon
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make sure you at are peace of mind, try to have no negativty when you do it



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BloodxXxOverDose
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well taking on an adventure such as (astral travel) can be intense but has it's benefits as well.
wellwhen going to someone elses abode when in astral travel...if they are intune they can sense something or someone added to their personal space.
and yes when astral projecting ones self you see the place as it really is..although you may be in a dream like state everything is of reality in nature depending how your mind perceives things.
it is quite possible to find or even visit someone in astral travel that you never seen or have before added that you are gifted with clairvoyance and can connect in a way that passes the physical with that person or place that you seek.
well you are not always aware of your bodies surroundings when astral projecting ones self somewhere else....usually time gets lost and your sences are perceived moretowards the state of mind that you are currently in rather than in the physical...when astral travelling there should aways be precautions taken as to not get lost from going back to your body or havving another spirit enter your body while you astral travel...in most cases after you astral travel it tends to become quite easlily..and one can sometimes astral travel without wanting to at time which can be a minor drawback depending how you look at the current situation.
i recomend learning as much as possible about AT before taking on an adventure.


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Your questions:
Could they 'sense' you/your presence.. In the same sense SOME people can sense a spirit?

Yes. This is always a possibility if they are attuned and tuned in when you get there.

Do you see the place as it is?

Most of the time yes. However, remember there is a fine line between true AP and swimming around in your own mind. Usually places look slightly fuzzy to me as if I'm seeing them underwater sometimes. I have to concentrate to get it clearer.

Have you been to visit a person, not know where they are, BUT you 'find' them thru placing the person in your mind?

yes. happened when my best friend went on vacation to las vegas. i saw what he was wearing, where he was, what he was eating and described the hallway he was in. i had no details prior to where he was and i've never visited the hotel he was staying at or seen brochures of it.

Are you still aware of your surroundings at the place you 'really' are?

Yes. Dimly aware. It's like deep sleep for the rest of the body, so it seems, but if someone is noisy or comes in the room, you'll know they're there.


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MinxyMoon
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BloodxCreep
& Jenova.. THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
Brilliant Info!

OK.. So, Suppose I'm on an astral Journey... My body is limp back where I 'really' am... I have prtected my 'spirit'.. Will my spirit completely leave my 'physical' body?

will my physical body be vulnerable of any spiritual, Malevolent 'invasion'?
or will my protection shield both Body & Spirit (once seperated)?



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That really depends on what type of protection you are using.

If the protection is specific enough, then it will indeed protect both your physical self and your spirit self.

As I am adept at astral projection, i rarely allow my entire spirit to leave my physical body, but whenever i do i am lucky enough to have a spirit whom i trust to look after my physical body for me whilst I am away. This practise does have it's element of risks however....such as: the spirit decides it wants to stay.



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The times i have traveled to a home i know or near some familiar to me,they have been able to sense me near them.they describe it as a cold feeling.almost like a spirits.but they also are very atuned with spirits and different presences.so when i visit them they can but others can not.



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I have done it, although I do not know how i did, and i only did it a couple times, I tryed talking with another member of VR about this awhile back when I was new and he tryed to explain how I did but i still cannot



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It happens to me in a deep sleep state and most times i have a little control.



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I have only done it once or twice that I can remember of.. and the one time that I can I was helping a friend.. but couldnt make out the faces of those I was helping... later I found out that it was a coworker who also can astral travel...



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If you know exactly what the place looks like from the top and bottom and side you'll be fine. If not...man it gets disorienting. Otherwise, I dont' really know how to prepare you, there is no real preparing. Things just happen as you will them afterwords.



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tknight78
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i think that if a person is open to the the world not seen they could sense your spirit.



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I have never experienced any thing like this, but I imagine that you would be aware of your surroundings in both places. Your body is in one and you mind (or spiriT) is in another.



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Mayari
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Will my spirit completely leave my 'physical' body?

will my physical body be vulnerable of any spiritual, Malevolent 'invasion'?
or will my protection shield both Body & Spirit (once seperated)?
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Yes, your spirit leaves, but a portion of it stays behind. Remember, there are three parts to the human "body". You have the physical body, the mental body, and the spirit body.

In astral travel, I believe that the physical body remains behind, the physical awareness remains there as well. What really leaves is only a small portion of the self and mostly it uses the mental body as a ship to go into the astral world. It projects into the spirit body and together, they go and explore the astral world. Now because only two out of the three bodies are actually departed, the one that remains behind is the one that generally keeps you from getting invaded. It also warns you if you are going to be in trouble if someone enters the room.

In reality, it's more like your awareness splits in two and the majority of it travels forward while a portion remains back to guard the castle, as it were.

in terms of protection, there is no better connection than to be in a place where you are going to be undisturbed. Remember that being outside in public leaves you open to people wandering around on the physical plane.

When you ground and center, I recommend you shield your body as part of the process. It stays firmly shielded and your spirit self takes care of itself. Again, because part of yourself remains behind to guard the castle gates, you will know immediately if something is amiss with your own body. The link between the spirit and the physical body is strong enough that you will be aware something is amiss at home long before you're ever in true danger. It's not the kind of experience where you're going to be out traveling in the astral plane and "whoops, when did my body get carried away?"



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Astral Travelling is very similar in concept to Thought Association. In the same way an energy is used to create movement, an action, a thought etc, one's entire bank of energies is used to project and propel itself to a completely different place.
There IS also a theory which states that it IS your spirit, which is "sent" via the "other" realms, to your destination, and somehow connects back to your living body's mind.
If you have seen the film Donnie Darko, at the end of the film, where you observe the long streams of "haze", this was to depict the notion that EVERYONE can Astral Plane, but some are better than others!
It is safe to assume that whilst walking around a corner, you may "get a funny feeling" that there is danger, so you take a wider arc etc. How did your "intuition" know? a premonition? Or was it actually your basic Astral Travelling hwlping you along?
Other theories suggest that you are actually sending your Spirit Guides, who then "report" back to your own spirit, which then creates a picture you can actually EXPERIENCE persé!
A nice theory, if it is true! :)



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When not so sleepy I ascend very well. My astral work has been of a sexual nature and to feed for energy feeding im cambion I think … and yes you know im there ….



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Akasha420
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It depends on the person that you go to some can and some cant,
yes you can see the place how it is but it depends on how focused you are cause things may be blurry.....
yes several times I have been to see someone and they didnt know I was there
I tend to visualize that person and saying there name in my head at the same time
if I do it to long I can get sleepy to.



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