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So far it is very apparent the community would not use a spell to make someone fall for them .
I also see no one will use spells to turn the other person away, and believe it should be done with out magic mainly out of respect.

so my question Would anyone use spells to harm someone, not kill just harm, if they were after your lover ?

Ps can we cyber slap any one who say using a love spell to make someone love you for not reading the original post?




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No, because that is against my ethical code of "Harm none."



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So say some guy at the office your girlfriend works at has asked to take her out a couple of times now and she mention’s his names a lot. You wouldn’t cast any spells to curb his assent on your lover?



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Sonneillon
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Someone is always going to be after your lover, whether you like it or not. The only thing you can do is trust your lover enough that he/she won't cheat on you. If your lover feels the need to cheat on you then you don't need to be with that person, you should move on, end of discussion.



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in that manner a spell wouldnt be necessary? your lover might not love you as you much as love her. or him.



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No I would not. I would be flattered if someone was after my lover but I am secure enough in my self-esteem to not be jealous. I also believe a casting spell over trivial things like that is ridicules. If someone is going to cheat there is nothing you can do to stop him or her.



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1. I have cast a love spell on another person. It turned out well.

2. I have cast spells against others who were problematic in my overall plans and needed to be removed from the picture; nothing to kill, these spells succeeded in driving away who they were meant to drive away.

Remorse? ... No, not really. I use my abilities including my spellcraft to drive towards whatever ends I desire.

Remember: right and wrong are in the eye of the beholder. I personally think that codes of ethics are for inexperienced practitioners who are too afraid of stepping over the lines to survive and gain what is needed in life. As such, it also becomes the ultimate crutch for why one hasn't achieved what they wish in life.

Draw me a line, and I'll happily step over it...



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Not that I believe in casting spells, I am not familiar at all with these kind of things.
But in theory, no, I wouldn't cast a spell to harm anyone... It goes against my beliefs.

Even if someone would try and steal my partner, it would most definitely aggravate me and perhaps make me feel a bit uneasy, but knowing he would never betray me keeps me away from foolish things such as causing harms to others.

After all, why be in a relationship in which you can't fully trust your partner to be truthful and committed to you, and only you?



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GrandMasterC187
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I'm totally against the idea.



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If I needed to use a spell to make sure my lover was not cheating on me, the relationship would not be worth contining anyway, as the trust has got to be there to begin with.



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if i had a lover and i had the choice to use magick on them, i wouldn't i'd leave them to make their choice, but i wouldn't harm the other person either. i would probably think about it, but i would restrain myself and remember my promise to my Goddess and God.



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To be honest, the truth is in your question. Would your lover do that to you? Would it be fair to make someone do something they do not wish to do? I personally think that no one should have the right to bend the will of another, especially someone you claim you love. They have every right to be happy and choose their own path. So does everyone.



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The only way I think I could justify using spellwork against another person in that manner is if they were a threat of harm against my partner, not merely a threat to my own security in the relationship.



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If you are going to use a spell on your other…what’s the point of being with them in the first place….Why don’t you use a spell to find out where your heart truly belongs… …I am against using spells on my girlfriend because that would make it seem like I didn’t trust her…and I trust her with all my heart…. I say no spells…Punch the guy in the mouth…if that…



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I'm against it . It goes against the Wiccan Rede . And dont for get everything comes back in 3's .



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I am against it



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Most often because I won't be unequivocable about magick it is only Wiccans and the like that have that harm none ethic. Most hard core people using sorcery wouldn't care. Many darker magickians wouldn't care but then again most of them don't believe love spells work . This is in the sense that it is only glamoury. So during the time you have their attention they will either fall in love with you or when it wears off they won't stay around. As far as sending someone away that is perhaps giving you attention you don't seek ...there are many spells to that sort of thing. I have used a curse once and it worked more or less. Just know if you let someone else do the work or purchase some online spell it won't have your essence and it most likely won't work or work in a manner that wasn't quite what you wanted.



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Just because someone is after your lover doesn't warrant use of metaphysical means. If they were trying to harm them, then possibly, but it would take someone of none or very little morals to harm them.

Personally I would never use spells to harm someone that was after my lover. I would though if they were hurting them.



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21:37:01 Sep 03 2007
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Yes i would, this is the real world any harm that someone would try to cause me would be sent right back to them, to harm them worse...



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very interesting comments so far, we have wiccans afraid to use it. We have high morals from all.
We have violence offered instead of magic.
Personally iv been flattered to see everyone want my lover, as long as it stays that way … however besides a working lunch, taking my lover out to a meal is in basic terms an act of matting.. true story.
Being able to provide food is the basic of mating…. I have put a stop to such activities by inviting myself, violence, and magic.
I like this quote below. Realistic when you have just finished from a long term relationship.

By the time you swear you're his, Shivering and sighing, And he vows his passion is Infinite, undying, please make a note of this: One of you is lying" Dorothy Parker,

Funny how one is hurt when a relationship ends and the other is coping quite well lol



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22:52:26 Sep 03 2007
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if Witches do not use such spells - who created them? who wrote them down? how come so many books on Witchcraft are full of the stuff?



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lavisbre
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well I guess we wont have to look farther than our war torn world of second world war… they came out around then in force.
Wicca is only 50 years old and grandma sure does know some things lol

Love potions have been around for centuries, before your single long term weddings one was lucky to hand fest for more than a year, especially if no child was conceived.
Im finding the stance on such craft interesting from societies point of view today…



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I would never do a spell to harm some one .It's against the wicca law harm none



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23:14:25 Sep 03 2007
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I never use Magick for harm, even if someone was after my lover. I'll trust them, no matter how protective I may get.



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01:33:35 Sep 04 2007
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in wicca it is told to not use love spells ..because that would be making someone do smething against there will



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I wouldn't resort to any form of magic as a deterrent, not for any reason.



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amberwine143
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I would never do that...I want someone to want me..not be under a spell and believe me they do backfire on you



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I personaly think that love spells dont work.



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Love fully means trust. Otherwise dump the bum.



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I do not believe in casting a spell against someone for harm, yet my families history believed an eye for an eye. and they did it so well . but all things must find their own balance. yet love will always find a way and if it is not there a spell may make it worse.



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Well if ur lover was actaully stupid enough to cheat on u. you should just be able to move on.
Other wise.
you should Trust your love.
in other words there would be no need for a spell



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high morals are reflective of the innocence of the person who maintains them. the world at large still holds to the ideals and holds to the wiccan rede. however, there is no proof of the law of 3 fold return that i've seen or experienced personally.

secondly, all spells will harm someone, no matter the purpose of the original casting. all spells are designed to alter reality in the favor of the caster; has anyone ever thought where one is taking from if one is casting in their own favor?



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Rickster0
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i wish the love spells worked really well



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They can … just depends on what you want and willing to give….
Spells work…. I wont go into the science



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I have given this some thought. If someone wanted my lover and my lover reciprocated those feelings, I would use magic to create a bond between them that one would tolerate the other regardless of what the other did. So that if one betrayed the other it wouldn't matter the betrayed one would only be held to the bond. They would literally be stuck with each other. I see this to be as much justice as it is revenge. I get two people that have no respect for a relationship and give them both what they deserve...each other.


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I hate to admit this but I am a jealous person and would feel slightly guilty in using one but I would.



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That all depends on the level of justification there is...if the deed has such a huge carmik return, that your harmful working against them does not exceed that level, and your intent while working is such to limit the amount of damage...

be sure that your intent is as above stated or you yourself will pay the price...333



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how do u even do spells?



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depends on your path…….. mainly it’s your will



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on top of the harm non rule I would be way to afraid of karma. So even if the person is hitting on your lover the best thing to do is sit back and let karma take care of them and not get you. No spell needed



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I'm against it .



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So no one would use magic to harm someone after your love?



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no, remember karma, if your lover is true no one will turn them from you.



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Love spells can backfire horribly.if its not meant to be it wont happen.and as for spell casting to harm someone.remember,what you unleash will come back at you.



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I dislike the idea, truely.
But I've heard many a person try and use it.



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indeed it is not only possible to cast spells of love and passion, but of hate as well, marie laveau knew of this sweet work, and her descendants still do it, if at all possible luck and power are ther befor anything else,but vampirism and the dark arts travel speretly often



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it's all about the charm :)



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lavisbre
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Wow no one will use dark arts to save or prolong a relationship.



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