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There are a few stories out there that take the traditional character of the vampire and take it out of the world of the supernatural into the realm of science fiction. One such author that does just that is Brian Lumley with his Necroscope series.

Do you think that these "upgraded" renditions detract from the vampire genre as a whole or add new life--no pun intended--to it by taking the concept in new directions?

I enjoyed Brian Lumely's Books and in fact some things hold true in his stories if you read them. In such cases as the where, even certain mutations of flesh. In all i think that maybe he was trying to get the reader to find the realism in his books beyond the lies.

I once watched a really good movie called straightly "space vampires" if I'm not wrong an 80's movie.. it was about an alien species which sucked life energy out of people, with a good plot..

i read three of his books and i think he has done a refreshing twist with the vampyre, although i do like the way we are portrayed normally

Fiction? I kind of like the real-life stuff... The Chupucabra news stories from the 90's were bizarre

Now that's a weird creature, does someone sell them?!!? lol

Watch Vampire from outer space.

Wow that is a bad bad bad movie.

you never know, anything is possible

How about Plan 9 From Outer Space?

Aliens ressurect the dead (well, 3) turning them into zombies, yet one is Vampira, and another is Bela Lugosi! And he just acts like Dracula!

What was Ed Wood smoking...

That is the worst movie of all to the point where it is awesome!!!

So cheese but fun :)

an alien vampyre sounds kinda scary

I suppose its quite a good link.

We fear what we dont know, and we tend to think that those we are unaware of can reach the outer limits of human fear and imagination.

Of course this would be a different type of vampire... one who was more parasitical than the re-animated crorpss of legend I assume, but its just the erspective of energy use being different on other planets.

Good thread.

It's a good link but not my kind of interests

Well, its taking the whoel thing into a new dimension... your now tlaking about parasites, rather than what we know to be vampires of myth or reality, so would they necessarily be vampires?

Very well said Echo.

Echo.
May i ask you something that has nothing to do with this thread plz?
It's not rude at all...just a simple question.

Maybe some sort of space-big-ass-eating-monster got infulenced by dragula movies and decided to add a little more of his blood in order to have a better go at relating to vampires!!!!!

Well, if its nothing to do with the thread, then use private messaging.

We blocked each other a long time ago..remember?
You and me and your BF were fighting over something i forget.

LOL

But what i wanted to ask was by no means gunna be rude at all.

Well, press the unblock button then.

(P.S. You argued with Gorey, he blocked you, and you tried to get at him through me.)

U are correct. I will do that now.

Echo, I think that depends mainly on your definition of "vampire." Then again, vampires in their most basic portrayal are parasites. You could very much argue either way.

im sure thats a good subjec tbut i have no clue baout it what so ever....

i like brian lumely's books

I have read a few books with alien vampires in them.

I haven't read any of those books, but I just can't see vampires being aliens. I was never into the whole aliens from outer space thing anyway so I'm sorry if I seem kinda skeptical.

REALLY ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.. WE DONT KNOW WHATS UP

yepa not my kind of interrest space vampire

and you dont know the vampire from the hell of mars lol
oh no the attack of vampire of pluton

stop LSD it s not good for your head

Well, thats my point... you could consider a midge a vampire I suppose.

Hey Yendor,

I believe that film was called 'Life force' and I remember it primarily 'cus it was one of the first times I saw a full frontal naked lady...LOL

Okay, so some of you have expressed that vampires from "outer space" seem strange and odd--or whatever phrasing you choose to insert there. Why do you feel that way? Is it because you have seen the cheesy renditions of this subject and just find it ludicrous, or do you find the concept wrong because it interferes with the traditional view of the vampire?

Yes it does seem cheesey, but what do I know? I haven't read the books. I think because of all the crazy folk out there saying that Elvis is an alien and how aliens implanted cameras in their teeth and everything, people view the general subject of Aliens as a hokey thing.
Hell I don't know it does seem possible.

Lifeforce

Morrigon, you bring up a very good point. There is a stigma associated with the science fiction genre because there aren't a great deal of stellar work. So far, in the thousands of stories that could be categorized as science fiction, the only best known ones are Star Trek and Star Wars.

So, back to my original question: Does putting vampires in an "otherworldly" or "offworld" setting (one different from earth) harm or lessen the appeal and mystery of the vampire or does it even matter?

Well personally, my favourite vampire movies are ones where the vampire is in direct contrast to its surroundings; for example Dracula in London (Dracula), vampires in a bar (Duck Til Dawn)... they work because the vampire character(s) are so out of place, they're in effect 'alien' already.

Setting a vampire tale in space just seems to dilute the effect, as you're placing otherworldly characters before an otherworldly backdrop.

I think it only matters with a well planed and written story (not lit- but enjoyable reading). Otherwise it's just more same o same o.

i remember back in the day a show called "buck rogers and the 24 1/2 century" which had a 2 part episode featuring a space vampire...he used the "rock~n~roll horns" to drain his victims energy and was sorta nosferatu-ish. thinkin back now it was very cheesey to these days standards...but back then it was creepy

for me it s simple i agree with the theory of classic vampire :)

but i accept the think of other
sorry for my last comment i was come back from a party and i was drink a little lol

I think alien vampires can affect the romantic views of the more classical vampire. It is kind of hard to change that image from most people.

i believe the only reference i know of is the movie lifeforce, which i love....regards pharaoh

well they take the concept in new directions. but i dont know if i would be interested in reading them.

alien vampires?

didn't know they exisited ....lol

odd, never heard of them

u gota be kidding me>.......
i have nothign to say related to the matter.....

Has anyone ever read any of the books with Durham Red? She's vampryic, but is really a mutant. It's here mutation that made her a vampire. The fact she's a vampire isn't played through very well in the books, though ("The Unquiet Grave" and "The Omega Solution")

I would have to agree with the previous comment that Sahahria made in which the story must be done well in order for it to be enjoyable--that goes for pretty much any story.

Often in movies where the vampire is so radically different from what is traditionally perceived, there is a great deal of the story taken up in the very beginning just to explain all the differences. Now, this may be due just to the fact that it was badly written, but it also goes more into my point. If a person changes the story too much, then the audience seems to get very agitated because they are forced to rethink their views. Now, this isn't always the case--i.e. religious symbols with the advent of a lessened emphasis on the importance of religion that occurred in our recent past.

However, for books like Brian Lumley's Necroscope, he takes the concept of the vampire that we all know, places its origins on a parallel, yet much harsher earth, but connects our reality with this vampiric reality with dimensional portals not explained through fantastical sorcery, but through contemporary theories of physics. It's a very interesting read, a very "scientific" look, but he doesn't change the characterisitcs of the vampire--although they are nothing like Anne Rice's vampires.

yes i detracts from it and it needs to DIIIIEEEEE!!!!!

In what way Meepthevampire?

Then is the appeal in the supernatural persona of the vampire instead of the actual vampire itself?

anything that makes you think can't be that bad...there is so much about the universe we don't know so who are we to say that some version of truth is not accurate...

*scratches head* well, I must say that I thaugh a lot before posting here, and since I think it's very self-centered of us to think that we are the only intelligent life in the Universe, I have to consider vampires from outter-space as a possibility..why not?

Why not? Everything has to evolve... right?

hehe

lol la chupacabra