-Knowledge is power- ? If so to what extent you affirm this quote/phrase?
To those interested in the "possibilities", or to direct this matter into the "specular overview"; Do you think/believe or not, alike- their are keepers of knowledge as well as receivers of wisdom channeled into mission of each individual? (puppet'd for a more direct assimilation) Which use this to mold a agenda?( for better or worse, not here to discuss/judge the outcomes) I've heard and read/studied accounts and discussions of individuals thought to be lead/guided and even "spared" by a "higher form" for a higher purposes in play, one of those accounts remounts on -A. Hitler- which he didn't took this (in his overview) puppetry quite fondly accepting to grasp, the conveyance of being over the influence let arrogance twist over his personal "control", let to only himself intrude his aspirations (not entering in the morality socially scaled in here). Yet what I'm trying to inquire here is: who have read, account, experienced a similar state in their intrigue? where you placed in the position you felt this was not a coincidence but a mission, "calling", "reason"(call it as you will) out of the rest? or have this acquired knowledge affects something in how you view the world? even if the messenger is your "God", "The devil", "The aliens", "Allah", "Jesus" etc..( reactionary free discussion, don't account for reliability of source, given that any of them are authentic in subjective stance, do not force thoughts but welcome diversity of assertions).
For another sense in discussion, do you believe/think, or not alike: their is/are individual-s/groups that have this "universal " or esoteric knowledge and remain as guardians of the system, awaiting for not them but the "calling of higher ranks" to propel 'others' subjects to their mission? This is more or less a "Matrix" related question, since it "deviates" from "reality"(which is another discussion apart).
Now you have peeked my interest. I am going to have to break down my answer(s) according to the way you have presented your post. I have been doing a ton of research as well as practice pertaining to which your post alludes.
"there are keepers of knowledge as well as receivers of wisdom channeled into mission of each individual?"
Not to directly answer this question since it may be along the lines of pure speculation, I will instead inform the audience that I think each individual has a blue print, but they chose it during during their own time within the interlife (The life between the here and the there).
What I would be describing here would be a portion of the Akashic Records. In a nutshell, the Akashic records are the energetic imprint of every thought, action, emotion, and experience that has ever occurred in time and space. The Akashic Records can also be understood as the imprint of all experiences of all lifetime in all realities. They are an etheric, holographic repository of information for human consciousness for the past, present and potentials for the future.
"Which use this to mold a agenda?"
Something along those lines. But not in the sinister "source of all evil" way. More along the lines of understanding the physical self and the soul of the self. We would be getting into the Sacred Geometries at this point. The studies of the Higher Self in Spiritual Alchemy.
"or have this acquired knowledge affects something in how you view the world? even if the messenger is your "God", "The devil", "The aliens", "Allah", "Jesus" etc."
I wont get into the intricacies, or details... But this is a bit close. The world really seems to have little to no idea about the awareness value that spirituality has on their etheric forms. Such capabilities are endless. I would call it the "Christ" self, or the "God in me is" The I AM presence. You may call it a divine presence that speaks to the individual, the holy ghost or what have you, it could even be that so called alien identity that has eluded society since the dawn of time itself. Or your consciousness. Something is out there and calling to society, but society is unsure as to why or to what purpose. Its more like a pull. A universal pull.
"For another sense in discussion, do you believe/think, or not alike: their is/are individual-s/groups that have this "universal " or esoteric knowledge and remain as guardians of the system, awaiting for not them but the "calling of higher ranks" to propel 'others' subjects to their mission? This is more or less a "Matrix" related question, since it "deviates" from "reality"?
In short... A very big YES!!
A very intriguing read as always, I think that there is much that most are not aware of, simply because they are closed minded and don't want to see or know things and yet then there are those that are so wide opened to the option that there is so much more out there and they have a better grasp at understanding things that have come before us. Each has their own perception of what they believe or chose not to believe.
The more you know the more possibilties one can achieve in life. Endless is the mind that seeks to gain in knowledge.
Did you know that most humans don't even use 1/4 of their brain capacity? It is measured by the rogues of folds on your brain as to how much you've retained.
So the more brain wrinkles, the smarter you are.
I googles that exactly as you wrote it, there is nothing to support that.
The only reference to any such thing is endorsement for " unlocking the brains potential seminars".
I see people that don't exercise their imagination ( creativity) as much as they should.
So what of the practicle application of what knowledge a person professes,
to many are examples of Professers' (ib), if a portion of those professer'
practiced.. then ..
Practical application is lost in mystism.
Default reasoning replaces knowledge, devolution.
Hmm interesting response SS- Looks like you are following the line of thoughts I was 'scavenging' in the members responses; A big yes huh, very nourishing thought, and my gratitude for expanding the data for other members to educate on other overview of the subject.
Let see if someone understand this "nonsense"-
Seems like we have lost the privilege of knowing for certainty our true "creator" and blurried in time by many plagerized adaptations of what could be an authentic and reliable source, seams this was planned to manipulate the outcomes of a past failure of mechanization in terms of creating all knowledgeable creatures which didn't work quite well at the beggining, so this confusion, religions, and accounts could mold a better wheel in human life for a "process" could work accordingly. So the keepers of this wisdom have to do what? go along with the presidented world we are living or await for the wheel make the turn by itself, by the enlightenment of other individuals in due time?
For the first part of your post I will respond with: I follow no individual, I have been studying the Sacred Geometries since I was about 15 years of age. So if anything here is plagurised, by whomever. I could have gone a differant direction, but I will not base my posts of true knowledge off of some dimwitted never was.
Secondly, I think you are thinking way to much into the end part of your post. It is not about what society wants, it is about what the individual does in the end by themselves that makes them the better or greater individual. Spiritually alone.
Nothing matters in life save for the karmic stream that still's society to the point that they get mired in most of the negativity that the world surrounds them with. Once they open their eyes to truth, then the karmic drama will disipate and they may get to see with their true eyes for once about what they are capable of doing for themselves instead of being manipulated into doing with the rest of the world.
The truth you ask? Is that we are all part of a singular ray of universal energy. This energy is never ending and therefore can be used over and over again for the benefit of the self for the sake of all society. But society could care less about any of that, and therefore will always be stuck in the mire of their thoughts and or beliefs.
What society does on the physical scale has absolutely nothing to do with their etheric qualities save for how they act and present themselves accordingly, thus the karmic dramas. Like I said, the individual is on their own, save for the guidance they retain from their peers if it is positive.
Society really has nothing to do with any "mold". What I am talking about is a blueprint your own soul makes for itself in the interlife. The soul has its own choices to make regarding where it will be and how it will spend its future life in the world. To try to disipate the monotany that it once created with its other selves. This does include re-incarnation.
This again has nothing to do with any so called "wheel of whatever." Like I said, you may be thinking way to much into this. I would do a small study on let us say... The ascension process.
Very well so correct me if I'm wrong:
I understand the individual fragment of the subject you are referring to, although Im directing the influence of the "calling", awakening of oneself (an individual) into the collectiveness, the remounting effect of what is the "calling for everyone" via different sources of enlightenment, Is it( the individual that founds this knowledge) chosen as a nearly enlightened soul by the passage of many reincarnations and furthermore the experiences acquired via that transitory passage of times, or do you think it has to do with another agent. (you explained the social resolution of this, so you don't have to explain again that is not the society but the individual the one to find the way), so correct me if Im wrong, the "reality" and society and the life itself as well is simply a machine of the "soul" to find the way via passages and acquiring knowledge until fulfilling monotony and recompilation of the true self-realization of the ? , like pieces in a puzzle? and acquiring the ranks of ascension independently.
The effect of the dehiscing from previous shells or souls into a matured state of mind that you pointed out; is to an extent reasonable-, and I understand the transitory stages in the reincarnation to access a full potential of consciousness as in to reach to the peak of the ascension of becoming a fully knowledgeable beings, for the completion of equality to say what- Master? creator? or God? don't know how is seems, as a group, of highly illuminated beings or however you address it;cosmic gama, universe, aliens, omniscience, etc..
Disecting your words, a bit of a yes. Though I word it far differantly.
It is a bit like certain religions, this philosophy, and yet... We dont nessessarily need a "God" archtype to deal with our own thoughts, worries, problems, anxieties etc. The ascension process relates to unveiling our eyes to a far differant reality then what would seem to be... Well, picture it as a hologram shading our reality from what would in some perspective, be a differant reality. things unseen could be seen for the first time, such as auras, entities, ethereal beings etc.
Not to say that the sight of these things is impossible... But if one does meditate under a certain scope for a period of time, then a light could be seen at the start of the tunnel instead of the end. Figures may begin speaking with the individual that could not communicate before.
I could go on and on with differant backdrops pertaining to the same subject, but it is a very broad scale. I will just say that EVERTHING is connected. As well, there is more to the other side of the looking glass if the individual chooses to take the time to see past the veil or like hologram as suggested.
We all live in a 2D perspective of what we perceive to be reality, but unseen by most... There could be 7 differant dimensional gateways and we could if we persisted in the undertaking, see in the 7th dimension if we tried hard enough.
But I have gone too far and more then likely over the head of many individuals by now. So I will leave it as is.
So with proper knowledge of the "Geometry" and the "archetypal consciousness" as alleged, I do not comprehend how would you dismiss the possibility of mutation of a creature by the means of enhancement of the gene, ( Trans-genic manipulation) weather by laboratory or designed in the particular level, If you do know about this ancient archaic mathematics evaluations of the universal matter, you should understand that everything has a certain vibration to the equation, a temporal pattern, everything in regards to matter or states of frequencies remounts in harmony, every fundamental structure is rearrangeable and can result in different geometries (the DNA, is one for a more basic example, you could arrange the helix or manipulate) the conclusion can vary in every given 'shift' variable, the arranging in the geometry itself can result in any desired monotony of idealized structure (evident in Bioengineering) how can you dismiss the acknowledgement of such thing as mutation to take place in a post-surgery (or ritual however is redirected as to in rite) when this is implemented( as to answer of other post in other locations of the forums in regards of "hermit kind" and such and turning), why: decades, centuries, milenias to one evolve or become something by birth? when you can rearrange the geometry of the DNA or any other basic compounds of motor abilities to enhance into human limitations; yes! you can measure the change of a creature("evolution") in time but, that is a natural scale in which, the "designed" controlled variable has a purpose of creation,- as everything, This somehow enters in other campus of the ancient alchemy of how this chemical induced variants work under certain shift in polygenes or the arrangements of molecular structures, now furthered understand by modern experimentation, a campus I sense you know as well.
Some-one around here is flying too close to the Sun. This is what happens when you/we try to think too much about stuff that is indeed over our heads. I tell people to "get out of their heads- there is nothing there!" Actually it's all in the heart but that's hard to understand when the ego/mind wants to say otherwise.
I'm very close to just closing this thread because of all the questions being , trying to, be asked. Less is always better. Learn it! You will be tested.
Stay on topic of what was asked in the first post. If it wasn't clear the first time - the thread gets closed.
Guardians of Life & Keepers of Wisdom can't answer if the student didn't ask a clear question.
well, ~IlLuminaria~ did ask for thoughts on diverse beliefs... Those are mine. Take them or leave them, the readers choice.
-Billythejust- I do not comprehend what you are trying to come across here, my response is in extension of -Soulshroude- reply, which is another extension of the subject itself, given that "achetypal consciousness" and studies of Geometry also pertains to a certain type of knowledge inside the subject I inquired. The thread is open to all opinions and discussion, is noticeable that only few cared to reply, either by; they don't understand what I inquire or they are ignorant to the subject or themes in context, is another subject. Nobody is flying over the sun, or however you put it, it simply that others fly on reality while others walk in a well orchestrated play, and the heart comment is simply out of context as well.
Or ~Billythejust~ is simply using the "over the sun" comment as an allegory for an "over the head" analysis.
the four way the wisdom can be achieved.
the hard work
the knowledge
the speach
the following above three
Not really, in my opinion & understanding. You would be surprised of how an individuals acquire such levels of enlightenment and never knew anything about anything, the knowledge sprang from pure observation or sheer autonomy of conscience evading collective tainted impressions, which by extension a selective pod to the component of the individual existence, some acquire such "knowledge" by "unknown" means, things that the individual never really studied but as mixing in a conversation speak in such way the words are unknown to the recipient yet is astonishing by others holding a certain knowledge of "say" topic ( this idealization of knowledge enter to the possibilities of various 'afterlives' theorem or the anthropocosmic consciousness; which is another discussion apart). I for one can tell you that: in my beginnings of understanding "the ways" long ago, I experienced such occurrences where one can't discern from one thing to the other, one can speak in things you never understood or knew the 'whereabouts' of its acquisitions, like given information, or enlightened or acquired by unknown means, Yet It is something forged with what you choose to be, but it also placed for a purpose, what we do with it- is another case 'unknown' by this user, it has various interpretations of "why's", and I personally will find by myself the concrete understanding. Hitler as I presented in the subject inquiry above, understood he had "the ways", and that he was in a level where he knew a lot of things unknown of acquisition, he tried to look for the "esoteric" to find the "whys" of this knowledge, and saw himself being somehow managed by other "beings", his purpose was unclear at the beginning but as he grew in power and influence of external "mystical" agents, he deviated from the "moral" compass he sprang, and found tainted with the esoteric and politic groups involved at the time, so the key of the atrocities could be questioned as designed or tainted and brought in by self-realization.
If there is one thing I have learned over the years, its that knowledge has no end. No matter how much power and knowledge you get, there will always be more. Thats one reason why some people believe going for ultimate power is a fool's errand. As for people that are guardians of life, I believe such people exist everywhere. I dont mean in some mystical sense either. In my belief it is those who love and know you and will do anything to make sure they dont lose you. And as far as keepers of wisdom, we all are keepers. We all know atleast one thing that other people dont, we all excel in our wisdom in atleast one aspect.