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Stigmata is spontaneous manifestation of bloody wounds on a person's hands, feet, forehead and back - similar to the wounds of the crucified Jesus. Those who describe stigmata categorize these experiences as divine or mystical. History tells us that many ecstatic bear on hands, feet, side, or brow the marks of the Passion of Christ with corresponding and intense sufferings. These are called visible stigmata. Others only have the sufferings, without any outward marks, and these phenomena are called invisible stigmata. The infliction of stigmata is called stigmatization.

Healing is usually reported within a few hours after the wounds appear. Some people who suffer from stigmata report feels of sadness, depression, weakness, their body in physical pain, prior to the bleeding. The blood will pour forth from openings on the body for an unknown amount of time -then just as suddenly disappear and heal. The openings can be just in one area of the body - such as the hands or feet - or in several areas of the body at the same time. The person is almost always in pain and discomfort when this occurs.

There have been over 500 reported stigmatics who have displayed wounds similar to those inflicted upon Jesus. The first recorded case of these wounds was in the year 1222, by a man named Stephen Langton of England. Saint Francis of Assisi first suffered the wounds in La Verna, Italy, in 1224.

Other famous stigmatists include Saint Catherine of Siena, Saint John of God, and Saint Marie of the Incarnation. The most famous stigmatist of the twentieth century was Saint Pio of Pietrelcina (1887-1968).

Wounds caused by a Crown of Thorns, although sometimes invisible
Whip lashings or scourging on the back
A wound in the side, caused by a spear, or lanceNail holes in the wrists, or hands
Nail holes in the ankles, or feet
Formations of the flesh in the form of nails: the heads of the nail being rectangular and an inch on the topside and the tip of a nail on the backside, usually curved in as if hitting another surface.

My questions are....did you believe this is a Spiritual happening?
Someone was a chosen one?
Has science just does'nt have the answers?
What are your thoughts on this topic.

I believe it's pretty much crap. I don't think that'd be hard to do with a needle. In my opinion it's just something done to try to get others to accept another person's faith or just to try to strengthen the faith of one who already believes.

i do believe it has happened. My children are catholic while i am not I raised them in the faith of their father and grandparents. And they got a good education. Reason why I say that. is I love the story the song of bernadette. My daughter took her name as her confirmation name. I am of the wiccan faith and I do believe these have happened. A miracle ? science has never proven the healing acts that she has done. thousands have went to those waters to be healed. and they still go to this day. Yes I do believe in miracles..

I think its all just a bunch of crap and I don't believe in Jesus either.....Just another imaginary "God" figure for the masses.

I must say that I agree with the two latest. I am sorry to say that its just a bunch of crap.
you asked for my opinion, now dont shot the messenger.

I used to be Roman Catholic, and this is huge thing with them. One of the most famous people in more modern times to have had the stigmata is Padre Pio ('Saint Pio' as the thread author mentions). In most photos you find of him he's showing his wounds... supposedly they were always present and never healed. Many people adored him, I was taught to do so, and many at the same time called him a fake, that's all I can share.

Even he wasn't 'airing them out', the wounds were covered by some sort of bandage.

i dont think that we will ever know the truth of where or not there is a figure of what they say to be of god. in my option i dont see how there could be some one they say who is so loving and all that who would allow millions of people die in his name, how could such a thing be allowed to happen in my option the stigmata is nothing more then mans way of trying to find those answers out but thats only one thought i have on the subject the other one that i tend to believe a bit more is that is a bunch of crap. but who knows there could be something out there that we may never know. who is behind all of this.

1science has never been presented with a case 2 illusionist show 4 ways to appear to stigmata.

I appreciate all of your thoughts on this subject.

None of these people who showed signs of this bled to death.

To me it stands a mystery.

Been there done that. I had the marks on both wrist and ankles! After a tooth extraction I went on antibiotics. Don't remember which one, I should find out. I dentists said it was a reaction that caused, what he said, was hives. I didn't look like hives to me though. All circular marks but no bleeding, just some really strange round marks that looked like, while, you know. I knew it was the meds too when the marks should up but if someone from a few hundred/s years ago saw them ...

We get many drugs today from plants. So, perhaps I wasn't the only one that ever got this reaction.

stigmata means impression...

I never been hit by stigmata but been my subtle so many time rise to do dark same as today inner desires to go astral and tonight i will do that exercise.

as i have said i dont think there is such a thing as Stigmata i mean really the whole idea is a bit on the what the fuck side of things

Nothing but a hoax.
People have serious bleeding disorders, that even a deep rubbing, scratching or precise pressure can cause blood to break through the surface of the skin or tear ducts.
Yet you don't see them running around screaming for attention claiming they have the 'Stigmata".
Besides, I've never heard of one case where protime & INR results were done and forwarded.

There was a guy on Ripley's believe it or Not, that could exert enough pressure to his tear duct to actually squirt blood from his eye, yet he didn't claim Stigmata.

It's a disorder, nothing more!

who knows? it might be a disorder or it can be something on a whole other level.

I honestly have to say I don't know. There are records that state some people have had stigmata. I just wonder when they have them in the hands instead of the wrists. We really don't know the power of the unconscious mind to manifest beliefs physically. I have to say I swing more over to the area of hoax or perhaps extrapolation on the part of some religious folks on what was really happening with the individual. If one has open sores that never heal I would think infection could set in. Why wouldn't there be lots of blood flowing out of them? It's a puzzlement.

Call me a black sheep, but I believe such an occurrence could take place, and if it did and science was able to view it at the time I highly doubt they could prove anything took place after the fact. It would be excused and tossed away. If something can not be proven through reason, it has very little time in the science field. The truth is we really don't know, having never seen such a thing, it would be hard to accept that such a thing had happened. It falls simply under a person’s person beliefs and ideals. However like everyone before me this is simply my opinion. In the matter of the person not bleeding to death, if they are experiencing the wounds, the pain, and then why when they healed would blood loss even be affected. If it’s a miracle of sorts, all happenings within and during would be part of that miracle wouldn’t they?

I also believe that it is fake. A good marketing tool, that's all. (Please don't hit me for saying as much) It is funny how something that could only possibly happen to someone that believes in the cruxifiction story happened to people that believe in said story. I am not wrong in that, that one of the requierments for it to be a true Stigmata is that the person showing the symptoms has to be a faithful, believing person?

I am with Romamaria, and Wolfwhisper

To many religious sideshows are built around such piety.

Any illusionist can duplicate the effect (often even better, remeber people watching illusionist a "hip" to the effect being a trick) how pathetic is an individual that feels the need to impress upon others that they are so "afflicted"?

Even the first "case" has been debunked.

What is gained in "Gods plan" from such a trivial concept?

Ask yourself, why is it that individuals "afflicted" are so distanced from their audiences?

Think of all the pilgrims in south america, who flock to "faith healers", and religious side shows, just to be astonished.. awed.. out of their life savings, by scandelous performances..