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Mischka13
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04:01:19 Nov 10 2009
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What are your thoughts and opinions of those who judge before they know.




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SeraConner
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12:13:37 Nov 10 2009
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Those that judge before they know are complete imbeciles who need reality to slap them in the face.



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Vampiress121
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12:40:03 Nov 10 2009
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Judging before you get to know the person is one of my biggest pet peeves.
It is unjust and unfair for the one who is being judged.
I am one who is mostly if not always judged before rather than after. I know what it feels like. And it sucks.
I sometimes wish i could knock some sense into people. Humans...so predictable. *sighs*



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Darkbutterfly
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14:24:23 Nov 10 2009
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It has been said that ignorance is bliss, well those who judge must be orgasmic.



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Mischka13
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14:57:31 Nov 10 2009
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I agree with you all. I was rated low for having things about myself on my profile. This person said that it was all fluf and pluf. A face that is not real when everything on my profile is what is true abut me and what is real about me. She is one of those people that is an ignorant close minded prick to be nice.

She was unfair and unjust about what she said and did in my opinion.



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SireZombie
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16:12:35 Nov 10 2009
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most people who judge are unfair and unjust in doing so without any facts or proof to back up their reasoning in making judgement on an individual.

Just as in the Salem Witch Trials and many other instances, such as Hitler with the Jews, history is full of Judgemental people, and had nothing to justify their judgement on someone.

I feel no one has the right to judge another unless you have facts and proof, even than, it depends on the circumstances of the situation.

Myself I do not judge anyone cause I would not like it done to me, especially if it is someone who doe snot even know me.

Anyone who makes a judgement for any reason should have their facts and proof in hand before doing it.



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RaggedyAndy
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17:27:36 Nov 10 2009
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Regarding pre-judgement: Of course it's not right, but I think almost everyone pre-judges others up to a point. People every day are judged by their appearance (both looks and style of dress), race, religion, weight, sexual preference, ethnicity, etc. It happens. That is the way of the world.

You (Universal) get to the point that it is a waste of your time if you keep on dwelling on it--therefore, if someone prejudges me, it is his right to have an opinion. I don't have to agree or get depressed because of it--I have found the more you try and stick up for yourself, the more frustrated you get and the more fuel you add to the fire.

Perhaps it is something you learn--that some of the "unfair" things that have been said to you become trivial when compared to the prejudice others suffer in the world. If the only "unfair and mean" thing anyone ever called me was being full of "Fluff and Puff", I'd say I was a lucky person.

Regarding your profile rating: I don't see anything prejudicial or judgmental about that remark--unless there was more to it than you have divulged.



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WindigoWitch
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17:43:12 Nov 10 2009
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i think pre judging is wrong

but every one does it, i have and found out who i have pre judge is some onei really like

i think people who claim they dont are full of it,



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AmdisCianCarden
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18:31:34 Nov 10 2009
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For the forum: Mischka is not as free to blame as you think. For a copy of all the nastiness she left me, or what Ive said to her, just message me and you'll see what I mean. I never judged her on her profile. I just didnt like it. That is my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own. I have not sworn at her, no called her anything foul, and the same courtesy has not been repaid to me. I am not the bad guy here, and would like her to keep her trap shut given that she cannot be a MATURE ADULT and say anything to someone without inviting hardcore drama.

To Mischka, or whoever you are:
Obviously you blocked me before my reply was made for a reason. I understand. But do not ask a question and get up in arms about the answer if you cant handle it. Dont be a child! Also, dont swear at me when I never once made any derogatory comments towards you. I never called you "cunt" "dick" or "prick" and I would enjoy the same courtesy. BTW, that rating was for your profile, not for you! I was not judging you by your profile, and its wrong for you to assume that I was. Im sure youre a very nice person, but I just dont like your profile. All the pictures, BY MY OPINION, are fluff. And again, the word is EMPATH, not impath. Also, you're a filthy hypocrite. You've just done all the things to me that you said you hate. Judging me, being close minded/ignorant, etc. I never once told you something that wasnt my honest to goodness opinion and would aappreciate if you kepy your hurtful words to yourself! Btw, did you know that the things people say about the "faults" in others are the very things they hate about themselves? Think about that one. Next time you want an answer, be sure not to get p!ssy about the reply. You asked for it, and I was polite enough to respond.



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dabbler
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19:54:36 Nov 10 2009
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This is a rather journal type post.



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UpirLikhyj
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22:02:44 Nov 10 2009
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I wonder if others here have picked up on the irony, if not subtle hypocrisy, of the question, itself. Is not a judgment call needed to declare "those who judge" as those who do so "before they know"? And, additionally, is not Mishka asking that we render a blanket judgment without knowing the actual situation to which she refers?

It is a fact that, as illustrated by the judgment inherent to the question itself, we all judge... and we all do so usually without having all the facts. Oft times judgments and even snap judgments are necessary for immediate caution and protection of ourselves and our loved ones. Other times we might have the opportunity to more carefully consider and weigh the many evidences and circumstances prior to making a final judgment call regarding a person or situation. Yet hardly ever are we able to have ALL the facts prior to needing to make such a judgment. This is where Logic, Reason, observation, discernment and rationality must be developed enough to be called into play.

And... in attempting to bring to bare my own dubious powers of all the above... I must declare that, given that we all make judgments without first having all the available facts, yet without further situational information, Mishka's question cannot adequately be considered and her request for a blanket judgment against others who make blanket judgments can, thus, not be logically given.


- Upir'







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WINDANER
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22:45:58 Nov 10 2009
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i just think they have nothing better to do but sit around and judge ppl b4 they get to know them. its very sad and quite pathetic.



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dabbler
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00:18:50 Nov 11 2009
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So people read a profile, and offer an opinion.. that opinion does not jive with the persons opinion of themselves.. whaa.. you put info on your profile.. that is what is presented for people to know something about you. Now I ask, what does this Thread have to do with the Dark Network criteria? The people that freak most about perceived "judgement" , are those who assume all subscribe to Chhristian docterine.. what was left on your profile (flattering or not) was an opinion.. based on what was presented by the author of the thread, had the person said.. I think you are Cool.. would you still cry foul?



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Mischka13
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02:16:25 Nov 11 2009
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Prejudging and judging is wrong. People are judged based on things not liked on their profile or something like that. Prejudging is the preconceived notion about someone before you have gotten to know someone therefore you base everything on that prejudgement.

Judgemental pricks with no regard about things said to them or question regarding them are poeple I despise. The only 2 people that have done so are just that and have been blocked. This thread was posted before the trouble began with the 2 people.

I judge nobody until I know them or have "felt them out" so to speak. After that i tend to easily make up my mind about who they are and what they stand for.

I have enough going on in life right now that is going downhill and do not need arrogant judgemental pricks like the 2 mentioned.

To the 2 unnamed mentioned: this thread was started before I sent a message to you 2.



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eMetiB226
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03:23:05 Nov 11 2009
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well, while this does sound like a rather personal issue, the question at hand i will comment on.

People always prejudge each other, most just don't say it out loud. everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but you know what they say they are like. the people who do that are the ones you are never going to please nor change their mind.

in simpler terms...it is what it is and they are who they are.



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vampchica4
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03:25:22 Nov 11 2009
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Yes, of course everyone hates it.
but, the truth is that for MOST, it is human nature to instantly form an opinion about someone before you get to know them.



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heartofstonecold
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03:37:36 Nov 11 2009
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I feel they should look in the mirror before judging



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Firmament
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05:01:44 Nov 11 2009
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Humans will always judge based on their grounds, Its easier to just live along that notion than trying to counter it, I believe that separates the primate ones from yourself -if you create such tolerance with a slight ignorance.



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mysticwinds
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12:05:05 Nov 11 2009
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If we judge others how do we really get to know them for themselves?



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dabbler
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13:12:52 Nov 11 2009
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This thread is becoming more of a journal, with every post by the author.



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SireZombie
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14:09:51 Nov 11 2009
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some are saying that *Everyone* judges lOl to me that is making a judgement on people as a whole LOL I for one am not full of it. LOL cause I do not judge anyone I try to get to know a person, and If I was judgemental then this is not the site for me. I came here in the very beginnig due to the fact that we are a more open concept / minded site as to the darker side of life.

People gives an opinion all the time and we all know what they say about opinions LOL we all have one. Yet it is how we learn and talk and see things as a whole. Like was said about profiles they respond to what they have seen or read and if you do not like it then just move on and drop it.

As dabbler said it is becoming a journal thread, not a discussion thread because no one is gonna take sides on this, it is for each individual as to how they respond to a profile.. just my 2 cents.



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AmdisCianCarden
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14:57:05 Nov 11 2009
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So Mischka, you thought that because I made a response to your inquiry that you have "felt me out"? So is everyone that rates you low a bad person because theyre not afraid to tell you the truth? Look who your real friends are. If you had a speck on your nose, Id tell you, or broccolli in your teeth, I would tell you! Can others say for sure that they would do that, or watch you make a fool of yourself! I never harmed you in any way, and STOP PRETENDING like you are guilt free! YOU JUDGED ME BASED ON A NUMBER! You are the biggest hypocrite I have had the displeasure to ever meet. Again, we find the faults in others for the things we hate in ourselves. You must hate yourself beyond all reckoning if you can be so cruel. Dont get angry because you got a single bad review. That in NO WAY was supposed to reflect your character! The fact that you took it to reflect your true self, tell me that it really does and you are full of nothing but fluff. Drama Queen



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dabbler
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16:48:15 Nov 11 2009
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Well Stated, me thinks she doth protest too much. can this thread be RIPed?



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SireZombie
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17:49:37 Nov 11 2009
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LOL Dabbler are we tired yet? LOL I am ..

This is more for the personal message or journal places.. just my opinion.



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dabbler
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19:39:16 Nov 11 2009
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I just like how those who despise judgement, take flattery so well. I have never seen such an activist against what they deam judgement. I smell bait.



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TheFireWithin
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19:47:13 Nov 11 2009
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I get judged a lot just by being a soldier.
Some think too much of me.
Some know what I've actually been through.
Some hate me because of my uniform.
To the latter I say unless you've walked in my shoes, seen and done as I have, don't judge me. Your thoughts are not only hurtful and unfounded, they are based on misguided and incorrect thoughts. They make you ignorant of certain situations just because you want to be stubborn and stuck in your ways and I'm sorry.



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dabbler
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19:52:09 Nov 11 2009
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My Army.. Hi..

It seems you address Generalizations, and stereotyping.. much more defined then judgement. Scary how those who want to be insolated from critism, label so much as judgement (this does not include you Army). to rally people to a trivial matter one only need to change the "paint".



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Kglitterous
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20:23:42 Nov 11 2009
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The likelyhood of the observations of others affecting you is proportional to how much power you give them over you. People give power to those who allieviate their fears. If you seek others opinions for your own self worth, then you open yourself up to feeling the effect of others opinions. Real self worth comes from doing deeds without recognition as part of the motivation.



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cadrewolf
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20:33:29 Nov 11 2009
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I would say it would be the arrogance of another or the stupidity tonot find out the facts in which they want to judge the matter,

we see this with politics and other factions in ones life. It is a human fault in which we all carry



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IveXtastedxthexrainbow
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21:10:46 Nov 11 2009
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I don't think anybody should judge somebody. Judging to me is one the dumbest things. Can you really make an assumption off of something you know nothing about. I think people who judge are afraid of who they really are and are immature.



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WINDANER
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22:22:31 Nov 11 2009
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its lame. noone should anyone period. but they do and whe someone calls them on it they get upset- they were better off keeping their mouths shut in the beginning.



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CryingMist
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02:37:16 Nov 12 2009
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waiting for a dominar to close
this htread looks more like a
-he/she did this and he/ she said that

journal entry, private message poeple, the main forum is not the place to wash your laudry.

as for juging, no one can claim never to judge

as for rating = see vr manual.
flamming= see vr manual


forum rules= see vr manual



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02:52:02 Nov 12 2009
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The Forum is not the place to argue about ratings. If you have to do it, that's what private messages are for.



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