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MasterKitty
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12:03:26 Feb 25 2006
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there are reposts out there that the Paris Catacombs was the cause of vampire killings...


i have looking into some of the reposts and myself i believe it was due to the war going on at the time in Paris


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~ one of my fav pics i found ~

" One crypt does the duty for all the souls here "

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" The other random bones were simply tossed in the box made with the leg bones and the tunnel walls. "

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" There are bizarre attempts at making patterns (art?) with the remains.
These skulls are in the shape of a heart. "

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History

Burial use in the depleted quarries was established in 1786 by the order of Monsieur Thiroux de Crosne, Lt. General of Police, and by Monsieur Guillaumot, Inspector General of Quarries. At the time, the Les Halles district in the middle of the city was suffering from disease resulting from contamination caused by improper burials and mass graves in churchyard cemeteries, especially the large Cimetière des Innocents. It was decided to discreetly remove the bones and place them in the abandoned quarries.

Remains from the cemetery of Saint-Nicolas-des-Champs were among the first to be moved. Bodies of the dead from the riots in the Place de Greve, the Hotel de Brienne, and Rue Meslee were put in the catacombs on August 28 and 29, 1788.

The chamber walls are covered in graffiti from the 18th century onwards. In the 19th century, there is evidence that some families even lived in the catacombs. Victor Hugo used his knowledge about the tunnel system in his novel Les Misérables. In 1871 communards killed a group of monarchists in one chamber. During World War II, Parisian members of the French Resistance used the tunnel system. Also during this period, German soldiers established an underground bunker in the catacombs below the 14ème arrondissement for their own use. (This bunker is not in the tourist route and can only be seen during "Unofficial Visits" see below.)

The underground tunnels and chambers have long posed problems to the safety of constructions in Paris. Quarries sometimes collapse, occasionally resulting in a hole above the ground and causing damage to buildings. To prevent this, the IGC, Inspection générale des Carrières (General Inspection of the Quarries) was established in 1777 by the government in order to monitor the current quarries and prohibit the digging of new quarries. Small observation tunnels were dug in order to be able to give access to IGC inspectors to quarries to be monitored and the tunnels and quarries were consolidated.

The monitoring and consolidation work has continued to this day. Because of the number of quarries, subway tunnels, train tunnels and sewer tunnels that have been dug underneath Paris and the softness of the stones involved, extra caution is taken when new construction is attempted or new tunnels are dug. (This did not prevent problems during the digging of Paris Metro Line 14.)

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The Catacombs today
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Unofficial visits
Unofficial visits to the underground quarries of Paris are illegal and possibly dangerous. Still, the burial chambers that are open to the public are only a small part of the full number of Paris's underground tunnels. The total length of quarries is greater than 300km (about 186 miles).

In theory, entrance to catacombs is restricted. However, enterprising souls can enter the tunnels through certain places in the sewers or the subway system, as well as through manholes in some streets. Some have reputedly used explosives. Some unofficial visitors have the keys to certain official entrances.

On rare occasions drug dealers, addicts, eccentrics and those who want to hold clandestine meetings or unusual parties will illegally enter catacombs. Most of those who illegally visit the catacombs today are adventurers or urban explorers. The most enthusiastic refer to themselves as "cataphiles" and some spend up to several days underground. Others have hidden casks of wine or supplies in secret places.

Legally speaking, sneaking into catacombs has been illegal in Paris since November 2, 1955. There is a €100 fine and a risk of running into special tunnel police. Some of the most dangerous places, especially in the center of the city, have been thoroughly closed-off.

While most unofficial visits to the former quarries are safe, there are still hazards in such activities. The map of the tunnel is complex; while some of them have plaques indicating the name of the streets above, most do not, and the complexity of their layout can be perplexing. It is thus necessary to have a good map of the tunnels, and to be in the company of people who have made such trips before. Some of the tunnels are partially flooded. There are transmission wires, pipes, etc. that can hinder progress and that visitors should care not to cause damage. Some passages are narrow. Visitors should take care not to create hazards for others, for instance by leaving open manholes that they used for entering.

In September 2004, a hidden chamber with a movie theater run by the Mexican Perforation group (a French artistic movement that seeks to convey their ideas in underground places) was discovered by the French police.



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12:36:16 Feb 25 2006
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it's very fascinating



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15:26:31 Feb 25 2006
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I love doing research on this topic... AWESOME pics....



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15:30:04 Feb 25 2006
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I hope they are. LOL!



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Isn't it awesome? Seen History Channel stories and friends' photos from the tours, and it's simply breathtaking. Can hardly wait until I can go down and see for myself. Can just imagine what there is to see that is closed off to the public...



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16:16:08 Feb 25 2006
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the pics is all i know..im one who jump at anything..so i know if i was there.....i be all over the place thing something after me or something..lol



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17:21:07 Feb 25 2006
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Paris is steeped in history and is one of my favourite places to trawl around, off the beaten tourist tracks…..there are a some rather eerie crypts too…..namely in the Sacre Couer and the Notra Dame…..if you actually read all the history its very eye opening as to how blood thirsty and barbaric people were in those days.
But then again the French did have the Napoleon & the Guillotine…..together with Marie Antoinette whose favourite saying when the starving people were trying to rebel… “ If the people have no bread, let them eat cake.” She must have been having a real blonde moment to have uttered those words which would forever haunted her.
“The bones began accumulating in the catacombs in 1786, just as momentum for the Revolution was building in Paris. Real estate was scarce while the cemeteries were becoming severely overcrowded. The government decided to reclaim the large swaths of land used for cemeteries by relocating the remains of the departed citizens to the empty limestone quarries, whose tunnels were at that time on the outskirts of town. The process of disinterring the bones from the cemeteries, moving them solemnly into the quarries, and arranging them there took several decades. No attempt was made to identify or separate individual bodies, but each set of bones was marked with a plaque signifying the cemetery they came from and the year in which they were moved. By the time the relocation was finished in 1860, an estimated five to six million skeletons had been moved to the catacombs.”



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17:22:39 Feb 25 2006
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Thank you vmprgirl2004 for reminding me of the great places...



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17:27:19 Feb 25 2006
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wow, just think of the history and the length of the age of the bones..can you just imagine what those people could have been like when they were alive?
or imagine how the people were that put them there..i mean to construct a heart?? is boggles the mind and peeks one's curiosity



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18:11:29 Feb 25 2006
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you welcome LadyLamia....

i don't think they have a bone count...but if they did i think they would lost count to as to how many there



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06:25:33 Feb 26 2006
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I love these places consisting of bone-structures. Like the bone church in Prague. Have you heard of it?



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06:34:26 Feb 26 2006
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Awesome posts Sweeny Todd took place in the English Catacombs!!! Very good read thanx



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06:48:43 Feb 26 2006
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Thank you for the reminder.
All you beautiful souls on V.Rave are feeding my brain and soul of things once lost..
Maybe going later this year..



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06:56:37 Feb 26 2006
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Sweeny Todd ( fictional character) .....made meat pies out of his victims......there was never any bones found and they never knew for fact how many he had killed.....so no there wasnt any catacombs........

Sweeney Todd is thought to be a fictional barber and serial killer appearing as a character in various English-language works starting in the mid-19th century. In these stories and in the more recent plays, he cuts his victims' throats with a razor and had his partner in crime and lover, Margery Lovett, bake them into meat pies. According to some researchers, in 1785 a barber actually did murder many customers and bake them into meat pies.



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