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I would like to make a post on vanity. We all have a little bit of it, or some of us have more. Beauty doesn't just touch the surface. It penetrates to the soul the very part of you Look at Elizabeth Bathory. Her beauty was so important to her. She killed just to get that illusion. Vanity, do you carry it in your back pocket when you go out on a date? Maybe your purse that just has a mirror and lipstick in it . I think deep down inside we want to be beautiful.

vanity has an ever increasing influence on the new millenuim. For people perceive people by looks and clothing and not sometimes what they hold within their soul. Models have depicted the look for men and women and what everyone percieves to be the right way to look.

We all have vanity, slight to maxium and yet narcissim is a way of life for many. look at the clothes, beauty supplies, and ads on tv.

Throw the mirrors away and see what lies under the surface of individuals.

I am leaving this here because Elisabeth Bathory was mentioned.

Well I don't consider myself as vain, I am less feminine than the other girls, I hardly ever wear make-up, rarely go to the haird dresser and less to the beautician and never carry mirrors.

However I brush my hair in front of the mirror because my curly hair gives me issues.

To make this dark, would you do anything for beauty, even killing, spells, etc...?

Would you kill and give curses because someone is more beautiful than you?

Of course, I get jealous that some women are prettier than I am but then I think about my boyfriend, Ken. If I wasn't the most beautiful women in the world to HIM then he wouldn't be with me and that's all that matters. I don't carry around a mirror, I don't even wear makeup. I tend to look at what's inside the person more than what's on the outside. Ken isn't the BEST looking guy out there but he's got a strong heart, a wonderful mind, and a great sense of humor. Good looks are a bonus. I love people for who they are, not what they look like. That's how everyone should feel.

Such a Deadly Sin.
Nope, have no place for it , cause it is superficial.
Some say Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,
others say it is only skin deep,
but I say it is an Optical Illusion.

It's amazing how humans are willing to endure empty co- exhistance with another based on Facial appearance instead of the true inner soul of another.

Beauty can be taken away in the blink of an eye, from any mishap.

I prefer to go out as a "plain jane" that way when they like me for me, I know it's real and not the Illusion they see.
Then they are ten times more pleased when they see the me I can be.

my vanity is that i sometimes go out of way to look good but most of time I just do not care about pleasing others

I am not vain but I do appreciate being well groomed and taking care of myself and being presentable. First impressions are key. I do not have to wear makeup when going out in public and I am able to go days without looking in a mirror. I do not carry makeup or a compact mirror in my purse. And I raise my children to know that they are beautiful no matter what. They have to like themselves first. I do not think that it is vain to wear makeup or be presentable or beign well groomed. I do think that it is vain to have plastic surgery to enhance what god has given you. You should be able to work with what ya got

I am obessed with my looks i have always been

I love to dress up nice and wear make up ect

even when i am sick or just going to sleep

its nice to be told you look nice.....i think everyone appreciates a compliment here and there, but I wouldn't go the point of obsessing about it.

Vanity is good to a point yet when it is all that gives your life structure, than it has become evil.

The story of the kid with so much vanity that nothing else was important, and finally become so intruged with himself that he layed by the pond and keep trying to kiss his reflection.

To look good is fine, but to act good is an achievement all will see.

I think many great evils are committed due to vanity, it is one of the 7 deadly sins.

Taking care of your appearance isn't vanity in my books, but when you go over board where you can't pass a mirror and your constantly looking at yourself and touching up your hair and make up, that is pure vanity. Where your conversation is constantly about yourself and how good you look or could look, Vanity!

There is a difference between vanity and caring about yourself as a person. I think caring about who you are is very important. But being vain about your looks because of the pressures of society! That is really wrong in my books.

I don't have much to be vain about lol born ugly here and happy to be so, I don't have to try and be something I am not.

No One is born ugly. We are born in the eyes of our maker. In truth we all are beautiful. regaurdless of how cruel or vile you are there is still a little piece left for beauty. I have never met a person that was truly ugly physically or otherwise

I think everyone has their own beauty

*Clears throat* There is a huge differance between vanity (selfish attempt at beauty) and presenting oneself for business or personal relations and or endeavors.

Beauty is Only skin deep Looks fade

I feel looking nice and being groomed is fine but sorry spending hours getting ready for something WHY??

I'll be honest here.I have spent a better part of my life feeling not good enough.Not measuring up to the standards of society all around me. Whether I like it or not my generation springs from media.I sometimes use the term "media babies".I grew up feeling inferior to every magazine,commercial, movie,advertisement,billboard,song,etc,etc. We are living in a time where most of the men and woman in magazines are fake.Airbrushed and shaded to perfection. Every advertisement is trying to sell us something to improve ourseleves be it cologne or make-up,laser surgery,contacts,steroids,diet pills,clothes,cars,tanning and you name it. What really kills me is how they advertise things like M&Ms and Fast Food with sexy words. Sell food with sexual vocabulary?Wow.What's next? Ya I'm going to eat a bag of candy and Cheesburgers all the time and be a supermodel. I am tired of conforming to it all and choose to stay home alot. I was always the girl in highschool who had a rock collection as opposed to my girlfriends who collected make up and purses. Maybe Im just getting older, but it seems to me that the new generation is all about tight clothes and fake nails.
Sorry I'm babbling on now.I'm done.

No, don't discredit yourself.. you are not babbling.. you are realisticly observing the topic!

Well stated.. Babbling? I think not!

Vanity, one of my favorite deadly sins. LOL:)
Nothing wrong with wanting to look good, besides the fact that you do care of your appearance.
Better than those that don't even care enough to clean up before walking out their doors.
~Grungers~

i spent the biggest part of my life feeling like the phantom of the opera....a hideous face that needed to stay in the shadows.
due to a series of events i am beginning to find some beauty to my visage. is it vanity? probably, but its a good feeling compared to what i felt before.

didnt mean to whine, and my reasons are a long boring story, but thats me.
~W~

I am going to be perfectly honest here. The vanity that the "government" incorporates into societies mind (government is the term I am looking for here since it is the only way the audience will appreciate the general discussion that I am going for since it is administered by those of whom would wish to manipulate the consumer idealism).

Those who would fall prey to the mass consumer tactics that are seen on a regular basis, from said magazines, movies, commercials, television shows, etc. feel that they are too fat, slow, ugly... only because those consumer ads are telling society these things to feed their goal. It is NOT that anyone looks or feels these things, but that these things are implanted in the minds of those who would watch these things and fall prey to the manipulation. It is called good advertising.

Blame it on those who would seek to sell things, that would tell people how to think, look, act and feel. Television shows such as "Queer Eye For The Straight Guy", magazines such as "People" and "Vogue", fast food ads that are now in theatres before the movie even starts... No wonder why America is full of negative, depressed and non-motivated people. They watch too much television, which have ads that make them feel that they are below others.

Now, if we are talking about old school vanity such as the displaced beauty from Antoinette, where she thought blood would give her everlasting life, then the whole "vampiric" motivation could come into play if that vanity were taken serious enough to go that extra mile to "look good" to an extent to where the "sweeping off the feet" would show its face.

All in all, I could really care less what society thinks of me. No one tells me how to look, act, feel or what ever. I am who I am for a reason, and no one will EVER take that away.

I agree with so much that everyone has said in here.. Where I want to comment is on the talk of what models portray.. I am a model myself but I dont portray over the top beauty.. I do wear makeup and I do wear clothes ( Although my style isnt excepted in most places but here) But I am a mother of 3 children.. And the extra skin is there.. But it isnt air brushed or hiden.. Not because I can't afford it but because I am proud of those stretch marks.. and I think that when a women sees my pictures she says to herself.. That chick had kids and still takes pictures and she still enjoys her art.. No women on the face of the earth should ever feel ugly.. But I also cant say it is all the media.. Because most peoples issues stem from people in normal life that walk the streets... Either way.. Its no ones job to judge how you look.. I have battle scars and crooked teeth but I embrase it.. No reason not too.. But in the same I enjoy my makeup and hair brush.. No reason not too groom yourself as well.. But very valid points from everyone..

To care about one's appearance is not vain, yet to care about one's appearance compared to anothers appearance is vanity.

Yes sir correct and I understand that.. Im was making a point that all models shouldnt be considered vain.. Or to be overwelmed by vanity.. Cause I dont believe by far that I am more beautiful than other women.. Not at all.. Im on this website sooo much and I see beautiful women that would do better pictures than I that wear no makeup.. :)

It is not the model's themselves that the point is trying to get across, it is the adverts of unnessessary style that turns faces. "Loose weight, feel great." "Choose your sense of style carefully." "Give us a week and we'll take off the weight." "Bowflex, the perfect home gym to keeping in shape and 'looking good'." Most of the ads these days are about weight priorities, clothing styles and looking younger. Self esteem issues stem from advertisments. This is the point.

I am a vain person. I will try my best not to leave the house without my makeup bag, or at least compact powder in it. I still remember the time I discovered eye liner. One of mankind's greatest creations! Sometimes, I see other girls so comfortable in their own skin, it makes me envy them alot. Even if I was the most boring person in the room with nothing to offer, I'll still have my eyeliner on! Weird thing is, I don't put much thought into my dressing. I wear wrinkled clothes all the time. I don't like ironing them, neither do I think of colour coordination and stuff. If my face looks fine, I feel awesome. "If you look good, you feel good", they say. But for me, it's more of a, "If you feel good, you prolly look good as well". :) Ah well.

I'd die without my makeup. Lmfao Who am I kidding. Honestly I could care less if I someone looks good or not. Because someone is attractive doesn't mean their personality is going to hit me the way their looks do. I prefer a 2 with a 10 attitude instead if a 10 with 2 attitude. Catch my drift?

Wow I did enjoy reading alot of the responses on here....I think there is a big difference between being comfortable with yourself..and being disgustingly vain and full of yourself..because like someone else said in the thread..-most of those people that are that vain..have nothing to back it up, its a lie to comfort them because they are too insecure. Vanity can be a very ugly thing.

I think vanity is as old as humanity itself.
It evolved, first, in men. The stronger and more skilled in fights and hunting a man was, the more admired he was.
As for nowadays, society has inflicted so many patterns of beauty, perfection, of how-to-be, that each person who is close to that pattern gets a dose of vanity, while those who consider themselves ugly become mean, jealous, aggressive and will end up destroying themselves.

My Grandmother had the vanity to the tee.

Never go without make-up whether she went anywhere or not

Her weight had to stay at a certain amount.
A pound over and we all suffered for it.

Yet she was so insecure and so independant on her husband,
She felt that was the only way to keep him.

Her vanity did not rub off on me
Her vanity showed me she may have looked nice on the outside but her insides were wicked and this is how she held inside her troubled self.

Television ads for diet pills, creams that make wrinkles invisable has became a billion dollar business.
When I die I will leave a empty shell.
As long as my body is clean, my clothes are clean.
It is how I represent my inner self.
I am only speaking for myself...what I went through living with a vain woman.
Also I better not gain a pound for goodness sakes 2 pounds and she would call me fatty.
I swear once I escaped I would never become her and thank Gawd I did'nt.

Vanity in todays society is extreme importance because of the ads that run on the TV screen, yet we are what we are the true nature of the person does not relie on the reflection in the mirror but the inner strengths and passions we have inside.

Vanity is a painted corpse.

all i know is im a photo whore and i miss my camera :(

since alot of people are full of shit ill come out and say it
i pay attention to looks first like ALL people... you arent in the mall and say, damn she looks like she has a great personality. Everyone looks at people for how they look. Im not the worst in the world, but if i see a chick at the mall and she looks good i may talk to her if not there isnt a reason to and i may seem like a dick but everyone than has posted or will post to this thread is the same way

Vanity is a natural, biological response elevated to a point of hysteria by inscrutable industrialists to the vacuous masses. It isn't to be ashamed of but checked. We are animals but we are also intelligent beings with the ability to govern our actions and coral our thoughts.

I think vanity is 90% society based.

example . . . Marilyn Monroe was a size 12 and sexy as hell. During her time size 12 was socially acceptable. Now a size 12 is considered fat? wtf!!!!!

I think it is largely based on society and in turn people judge based on looks.

Like many things beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Things and people are beautiful in their own way. Nobody is the same and everyone is beautiful in their own way. Nature is beautiful in many ways as well and all of nature is beautiful in its own way.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Be true to yourself and you will be beautiful.

Throw away the mirrors and relie on thy self, vanity is a mis interpetation of societies guilt factor.

With having 4 kids {2older girls} I tend to not be so vain. I teach my girls personal hygiene but also tell them that beauty is only skin deep. If you fell comfortable with how you look then it really should not matter.