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I know that their are people who say all gods are one and there are people who say they are different, my question is for them with all of the different gods that rule the same thing according to different people how do they ie the gods dived up power over the areas they control over?

I asked this myself a few times, to my view when you read the stories and folklore of the gods in ancient times they usually explain who is where and why.

there are many gods
but usually one father of the gods for each religion

my view on the subject is that we, the human race, create the gods. sure at first they may be an idea, but what happens to all that energy that people pour out of their souls in prayer to the gods? im under the impression that energy forms something quite potent and mighty.

well, this topic goes into the subject of religion
but then again, gods are superior to mankind

Some myths are more established then others, certain religions even destroyed, or assimilated the dieities of others.

well, which god do you all think is the greatest
my most favorite is Ra, the egyptian god, father of the gods

i like Norse mythology, and while not exactly a god, my favorite deity is fenrir.

and mine is Freyr....the lord of midgard.



but to answer the question, i think its several factors. the people of one area...scaninavia for instance might think Freyr is the lord of the earth...somewhere else another might have the title...

what it comes down to tho is locality, and belief.


frankly i dont think its a question we can answer until we meet the gods face to face. till then, ill just give em all respect...or at least the ones that at a festival i encounter worshipers.
~W~

Interesting question . im sure we thinking all gods are possible for this post. I think if we look over history then the strongest god with most power will eradicate other races who believe in other gods… or they just transform into new gods even though there stories are the same from old.

different gods, different abilities
although some of the gods are the same, just different name

The power is divvied up this way: You make a list of all the stuff that is important to the human race like fertility, food, water, fun stuff like intoxicating beverages and dance, beauty, love as distinguished from sex, and death.

Next, you assign entities to rule over these areas, and give them the power to delegate authority down the line.

Competiveness, envy and pettiness creep in and you may have to create a God of War. Also, sexual jealousy and predilection toward bestiality contribute to sub-genres of gods, sort of like vice-presidents.

My point is that gods are a reflection of the human culture from which they spring.

I think you would have to ask said gods how they would devide that power and or control.

It would be the human mind that would ask said gods to cast their power over what ever said human desires. Though it is said human that conjures said desire from him/herself and thus the summoning of his or her own godself has been conceived through self transmutation.

In a nutshell, the universe works through us, which ever idea of god/gods we percieve is just a form of self empowerment that we all have, thus we are the vessels to which our god selves tap the universal power from.

Thus the answer would be to just ask yourself said question to gain the appropriate answer. What power to you percieve to hold over the world?

I have an entry in my journal about a few goddesses and their abilities. But I agree with LordWolf, until we're face to face.....there's no determinative answer.

I think it is what one believes in religion.

Some have went into Buddahism and one looks at the Buddah with a male and female aspect.
(Not the laughing Buddah)

I like Kwan Yi The Goddess of compassion.

In mythology most God's and Goddess have some type of family relationships.
Like Mercury for example

POSEIDON (puh-SYE-dun or poh-SYE-dun; Roman name Neptune) was the god of the sea, earthquakes and horses. Although he was officially one of the supreme gods of Mount Olympus, he spent most of his time in his watery domain.
Poseidon was brother to Zeus and Hades. These three gods divided up creation. Zeus was ruler of the sky, Hades had dominion of the Underworld and Poseidon was given all water, both fresh and salt.

http://www.mythweb.com/gods/Poseidon.html

humans are inferior to the gods and since the gods are allpowerful, how do we know if the forms that they appear in is their true form

Quite simple, they don't...

obviously
then why do some people insist on meeting god face-to-face

no wonder it is taken humankind do long to advance, people are still do preoccuied with mythology, and the religions based on those mythologies, the whole concept was started, so those who didn't want to bother themselves with being productive in civilization to hold power over humans.. what better gig then usurping the authoriity of a supernatural being..

have you never watched time bandits?

No but I read beowulf?

Dude, The Supreme Being rocked..!

We are each our own "God" and control our lives with the power that boils deep within our souls.

Judging the response posts, your "myth" posts point is taken ~Dab~.. HA!

XxTCPxX, Beowulf is immortal

Azien, beowulf is mortal since he died...

I believe in Mother & Father god, I also believe that they go by many names & that people worship them in many ways. My belief, as far as worship, is, maybe the God/s don't care how you worship them just so long as you do.

As far as there powers, they can be made manifest by mortals: control over the elements (pyrokinesis, aerokinesis, hydrokinesis, geokinesis, electrokinesis), psychic skills, etc.

Check this thread out: How to Make a God

Some random thoughts prompted by th preceeding discussion.

If you believe in demon's why would you not believe in gods? If you believe there is only one true GOD then must there be one true SATAN? Does a demon/demoness have a gender? Does a god/goddess have a gender? Why one and not the other?

Whether or not there is actually a God god or several god gods in existence today, there are many reasons mankind needed to create a god or gods.

One reason for the church of ancient times was to provide support for the government in power. Divine right of Kings and all that malarky. Judiac King's chosen by God through his prophets, etc.. "Religion is the opiate of the masses" Karl Marx. How can we question the King. He gets his power from God.

Another reason mankind needed a God was to keep the deviants in check. You know; people like us. Torture, murder, lynchings, beheadings, stonings have all been conducted by men in the name of a Religion or "the" Religion or "my" Religion or "that old time religion." Most of the time against those who resisted the man made rules that had been communicated to "the chosen" through GOD. Directly from God to them. They did not have to pass GO or collect $200.

A third reason is that we are just not good enough. There has to be someone or something higher than us that is perfect. I am not perfect and I must find that perfect thing and worship it.

A fourth reason is that we are so superior to everything else on this earth. We are too good for this life. God did not create us for this earth; he created us to fulfill our destiny with him. This is just a stopping off point till we make it "up there". You know. Moving on up to the East Side. To a Delux Apartment in the Sky.

I am sure you can think of others.

food4thought

All very true, food4thought, except that most religions did not embrace one god. Even the modern religions have created subcategories of saints and prophets, who if not supernatural were credited with being so totally wise and informed that they are quoted, misquoted, interpreted and misinterpreted to this day.

The higher mammal rely less on instinct and must teach their young survival skills. They communicate with each other; we don't know what they're saying, but some sharing is going on.

Humans devised language and storytelling began. All the myths and stories are extrapolated from human lives and concerns. That's why the gods and goddesses, when there are multiples, are riven with human failings - envy, jealousy, lust.

As far as an afterlife is concerned, let's face it - we don't want to die.

Also, it's questionable whether the monotheistic god is all that perfect.

true none of us wants to die
although its our actions that will determine where go and who we wil see
heaven and god the creator
or
hell and devil
wow there are gods for just about anything

Aizen that heaven hell concept is a by product of the same create a creator process.

All mythology.. Once presented as a fable by oral tradition, that eventually leads to dictation of standerds imposed on a society, by a minority.

I agree with Bloodmother that the montheistic god was not perfect. But it is probably closer to perfection that we are. The old testament god demanded worship through fear. Not a great role model for our modern times.

I also agree that most early religions worshiped more than one god. Even the christian religion really has 3 gods in one.

But why does man need a god. Are there many different answers or one right one. I will probably never figure it out.

food4thought

Man needs God to give him faith throughout his existance, to place blame where not is to be placed, to give appreciation without ackowledging his own selfishness, to give praise without patronizing himself.

Man looks to God out of faith for moral guidance in his life. Where he cannot think for himself, he looks to God as his excuse when things go his way, or awry.

In other words, God is mans conduit for both self gratification as well as his tool for blame. God is mans scapegoat.

That was an atheistic point of view. I am far from atheist, but I was willing to answer the question of "why does man need a God?".

An ego can be found in humans, that their every action is a concern for an omnipotent entity.

When I hear Christians imply, that without god there would be no good, then I an seriously curious how sane such people are.

If a person states, that people are only good because of their belief, then they admit to being personally lacking in moral.

SS point blank, Well Stated.

We want do not want to die so we invent an afterlife. We see the cycles of seasons, rebirth and regeneration of the plants and animals around us, and think Why not us?

What's missing in the human psyche is selflessness, the ability to let go of ego and see that we are part of nature, too. We, our unique identities, are not reborn, we do not live on . . . but others do.

Except we don't give a feck about others, we want to live on as we are or better.

I don't believe the modern monotheistic god is more perfect than humans.

We have yearnings for the immortal. We have semblances of perfection and the divine right here, right now in us.

Religion isn't a way of accessing that, it's the middleman preventing direct experience.

Who are We? Why are we created?. Those questions have been around for sometimes, but, never have been an answer to them. Yes, many people can speculate about what they think or read (someone else thinking) about the power of the Gods. IAW the Christian Bible, (old Testament), God was an active fellow, who use to speak to many people, but, Why God stop talking to Humans? To analyze a subject about the unknown, is impossible. You can never imagine what is real about Gods or Unreal. If you Live life believing in the after, just for in case, and enjoy it what you do without, putting to much emphasis in God, then, you will be OK.

"Religion, the current theory goes, did not help people survive or reproduce necessarily, but goes along the lines of helping people to be paranoid, Kanazawa said. Assuming that, for example, a noise in the distance is a signal of a threat helped early humans to prepare in case of danger.

"It helps life to be paranoid, and because humans are paranoid, they become more religious, and they see the hands of God everywhere," Kanazawa said.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/26/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence/index.html

People turn to religions and god because YOU are scared!

It is your weakness and those more powerful play upon it.

Grow up and bite the bullet then and only then are you truly free...

Go get drunk and do a really dangerous bungee you whimps! it's great , I know I did it!

P.s. email me when you have let go and tell me yew don't feel great?

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
~ Marcus Aurelius

a god would only have as much power as we allow them to have

i believe that god exists in the hearts of all man because most of humanity believes in one form of god or another

Just because people believe in a god, eternal knight, does not make it so, does not make it true or real. Majority rules? fuck that. Lemmings plunge off the cliff. It's their nature. Is their a lemming who falls back, and says, hold on just a minute?

I'm somethere between fallingstar and little black kitten whose quote I couldn't finish because it was so vague. What is good? Let's get definite. What makes the most of life for the most people, or should we just look out for our little family? That's what I see happening in the world right now. And the mass of people who could lead a revolution are willing to follow who sounds right, rather than do the homework.

*sigh* thinking is so much work.

The power is within us, but it's frightening. It requires thinking, action, effort, turning off the t.v. and taking a stand even if it's unpopular.

God is a concept by which we meaure our pain
-John Lennon

ah interesting quote

What we are is God's gift to us.
What we become is our gift to God.

~ Eleanor Powell

blood trope
but the same logic says that if someone doesnt believe in something, its not going to cease to exist.

i study physics, and while i flirted with atheism as a teen, i just couldnt wrap my mind around the concept of this universe just popping into existence without something with an intellect guiding it.
look up the number "phi". you might find it of interest.
~W~

This is one of the most interesting thread created in VR, not because is about an Imaginary creation, but because is touching the heart and the soul of some of the readers. Some will agree with others, but at the end, we, all, have a complete different approach to GOD.

A taxi driver once told/ask me, I'm not sure: "There are so many Gods up there, everyone prays to a different one. Who is the most powerful/true one? They'd be fighting amongst themselves."
I wouldn't say all Gods are one and the same. They are merely manifested forms of one Supreme Being, in my humble opinion. Each form has its own unique purpose that it was meant to achieve. Although there are subtle differences, I have realised that they actually serve very different purposes. Be it for the good or bad, they are different. And I think that is scary. Respect for the unknown would be the safest thing, I guess. If one did not know that there was a God, for example, the element Wind, then there wouldn't be much of a problem, would there?

Wouldn't be reasonable to consider that every influence is part of a design in the terms this reality molds to the conclusion of the adoption. Many things could've change if for example; if Christianity (for popular approach out of the other doctrines) wasn't around to influence this planet for quite some time the current experience of life would've been different in both; physical and spiritual means. For one, the technology would be far more advanced if their wasn't a halt of the dark ages holding science by the neck for quite some time- burning not only libraries of ancient recordings but retaining many of the knowledge from leaking or emerging on power; making science on those days hard to experiment openly. Thanks to many bright minds, secret societies and occult measures to continue the scientific methodology- we could say that we have improved where we are today, without that variable on control maybe other scenarios would've emerged and the way the current reality is- would've been far different than presently experienced.

Given that- you could acknowledge that as far as how it has all being played down to this day; it has served a purpose for our current experience, either by the slow paced learning process or in terms of maturity measures on a social structure in regards of psychology involved in the masses- It has taken us where we stand today, and it could never be understood by a single overview, variable or influence, but by all the chain of events, puzzles, and characters along the way for it to take place. In the past few decades we have learned to grow on how to deal with social bindings, humanitarian concepts (Sexual [orientation,segregation], Ethnical [races,colors], spiritual) and the advancement of science to prove the ignorant views of the past, that were deemed to be replaced by an enlightening influence. It took many bright minds in every facet of arts and sciences to project the change little by little in a more subtle way to the more broad aspect of todays domain of reasonable behavior; where it has grown now to the level that it has made the masses to look for answer in books and experiments, rather than pointing to curses, mythical abilities or the wrath of a god/s. Im sure this enlightenment was a very good plan by many secret societies (in the past) to help the general consciousness to reach the maturity level by means of science. It takes a bit more to get to the ultimate goal but I can't discredit that the human condition has improved a lot.

My thoughts&ideology on this subject are fragmentary&contradictory(as most of my thinking tends to be.)I believe there is one God&the many deities&religions mankind has created&worshipped are all facets of one higher power.I tend to avoid the concept of organized religion,though I play drums for 2 Baptist churches(they haven't imploded upon my entering...yet) I've always been much more interested in reading Greek,Roman&Norse mythology as oppsed to the Christian Bible...ultimately,I'm just waiting for The Fifth Element to save us all! o.O

My views are that there are many different gods... the sun god, earth god, water/ moon goddesses.......

It is split evenly so that everything has a balance

Yes, I agree.. The Balance. I guess there are many ways to look at how the Balance is kept. Gods/Goddesses may not be the only way. It's a belief. And beliefs are extremely powerful. Mind over matter, they say. And this is what makes the difference most of the time. Coupled with Faith, it changes things around us. I think it's the representation of the Gods/Goddesses that matters. SOmetimes, it may be to simply enlighten an individual. That there may be things beyond what meets the eye. Symbolism and such. I see it that way.

I feel that Mythology as good as it sounds was used mainly to control and rule many different areas and was used to more than not threaten people of that time era and their beliefs when the government of that tiem felt they had no control over the people they would threaten them with *THE GODS* as it is said.
not putting ny ones belief down by any means I stdied adn totally enjoyed Mythology for that very purpose * Mythology*

I ean people believe ther is * gods of the earth, water wind etc. yet, soem also believe that the power of prayer will do wonders as well. the bottom line is that people have to have a faith and hope to believe in to get through life itself. I knwo That I do I have faith and hope in many different things, does it really help ??you may ask and well for me it does.

yet as was said we will not know until we have met them if we do indeed meet them.

I think th epower is not in the God itself yet, in th efaith that one believes that their God s the powerful one.

every war has been connected with religion and lan and power. so in a sense many are very strong in their faith which make that perticular God the most powerful.
Just an opinion is all.

I don't prefer to often to utilize the term God.
To me it is a catalyt of a compenent that is taught in order to achieve something you have no faith or strength within your self (confidence) to acheive something.
Just as an amulent, wand, statue, book, ect. ect.