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coolleyhou
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18:22:28 Mar 01 2010
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When we are injured emotionally or systematically humiliated or made to feel base about ourselves in our youth, we are seldom given the opertunity later to confront our persecutors on equal terms and to show them up for the cowards they are. So we often create a surrogate scenario in which the vices of our tormentors, the fears that fed their cruelty, the self-loathing that drove them to hurt the innocent, eventually consume them and make them worthy of pity and in effect drive them from our lives. But sometimes the dark fate that should have been theirs does not shake properly out of the box, and we go on pining away, subconsciously harboring our resentment.


Who hurt you and what fates have you imagined for them, if any? What would you do if you could today confront that tormentor from the past? Or have you really forgiven and forgotten?




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dabbler
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To me there are two catigories,

Enemy.. and Nemisis

an enemy is a person that lashed out, or perpitrated against my person. They are not shunned persay.. a window is still open for reconcilation.

A nemisis.. has perpitrated directly against my person, and or others I associate with. And even when offered a window to reconcile.. they outright
reject the option.

To me, such people gain my leisure grudge, any oppurtunity I have to intervene in their personal comfort, I respond with my most vicious pranks.



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From an early age I was aware of a sort of Karma, which was backed in my view by coincidences as some may say. At school a guy called Paul for no reason kicked me in the leg real hard for no reason, I was not able to at the time fight him I thought and was told he will get his as life looks after our family (witches), a couple of days later he broke his leg … coincidence or not I took the opportunity to kick seven bells out of him. Lol as for forgive and forget, well I try but im human and lack such divine abilities too truly forget and revenge is best served very cold … just like there bodies in a shallow grave lol
Still all jokes aside two wrongs don’t make a right and I have forgive more than revenged and as i get older i dont care so much and also have less wrongs done to me as iv learnt not to hold back and deal with it as it happens. Even my ex and all the horror she is I forgive coz she is bipolar, I forgive her mum for her consistent involvements and undermining and hate of me, not that her grave will be left in peace of that im sure lol



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Mischka13
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I believe in Karma. In time everyone gets whats coming to them good and bad.

To make a long story short,

I was bitten by a pitbull a few years back and now have a scar on my lip. It was quarantined for 10 days and the owners had to pay the medical bills. The dad wasn't really in the picture and as far as I know is an alcoholic as are the two boys. There were always parties at the house that got out of hand and cops comin at all ours of the night. The younger boy ended up getting Leukemia a few months ago and was actually there the day the dog bit me. He showed no emotion or remorse for what happened and when I found out what was happening with him I showed him no mercy or remorse. He ended up getting what he deserved out of Karma.



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lavisbre
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I also believe in the law of attraction, I watched a documentary on the science of how we live together and cope with interaction. Basically we treat a full high street like we would a forest as personal interaction with each person would blow our poor brains or short circuit them in an odd way. It also pointed out people who walk into you are challenging you and see you as less than them so making you move out the way, well I was far from I thought at the time someone you think your better than and being a tournament fighter was more than ready to fight …. So I had in my head people when people walk into my path they think im less than them lol a good one is I used to bring my arm up so my elbow would contact with said confrontations eye in a pretend yarn of shorts or cough, amazing how the person who was looking the other way suddenly magically moves or drops head to miss getting a black eye with out looking at me. So for years of being challenged and not putting up with it I found myself isolated (law of attraction I was repelling life). So I took a new spin on it and believe it is my attraction that is brining people into my path for what ever reason and smile and talk when they bump into me and ask if there ok coz im still not moving out of my path, they obviously cant walk straight or must be distracted by some thoughts or what ever and it’s not personal there just that way……. I like this thought better and I find im not isolated any more and have made some nice acquaintances in my area living. … and apologies to all the people I could of known who thought they could walk into me.. might have been some nice people.



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23:03:28 Mar 01 2010
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I believe the torment I had at a young age made me the strong person I am today . If not for them I might not think the way I do or be as strong . I know they will get what comes to them in so way ,but not by my hand . I have not thought in bringing it to them . Half of them are scared of me now anyways . my knowledge and the way I am .So for my tormentors beware your day will come . For myself thanks I would not be the strength I am now if not for you .



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SheWolf85
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13:14:46 Mar 02 2010
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That sounded dark. Wonder what you would have said to your question, which is interesting. *smilez*
I would not want to meet my tormentors. I hope they have disappeared from the face of the earth. I don't know. To come face to face with your enemy? I do not handle confrontations very well, and I don't like to fight. I'd probably acknowledge them. Whatever the situation may be and move on. I have not forgiven nor have I forgotten. I have found a way to just move. There are some things I can't change, and neither will I ever be able to do that.



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coolleyhou
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18:34:18 Mar 02 2010
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Personally, I'd like think that those who have deliberately caused me pain in the past have experienced some difficulty in their lives commensuate with what they've caused others-karma, I suppose. That would suffice.



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Oceanne
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00:53:13 Mar 03 2010
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You know,I have never cared about those who have tried to hurt me.And yes,a couple have tried in my life,but in the end did not succeed.If they ever did manage to,I got over it very quickly.No way Im going to let some asswipe who is vindictive or malicious dictate anything about my life for any length of time.



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Isis101
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03:51:54 Mar 03 2010
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When I was younger, getting revenge was important. Now - not so much. I do think that karma will pay back whoever screwed with me at some point, so I don't worry over the wrongs done to me so much.



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05:09:42 Mar 03 2010
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"To forgive is the highest, most beautiful
form of love. In return, you will receive
untold peace and happiness."


think about



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10:53:08 Mar 03 2010
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hmmmmm

Let's see.........

THE HUMAN RACE

Yes, the Human Race.... for it's misunderstanding and misuse of words and general knowledge.

As for people though, everyone changes, some for the better, some for the worst, and every time we find a foundation to stand upon, we find a better one underneath.

In youth, we all want things to happen much sooner than they do, and so every little thing is much bigger than it really is, but the ones that appear to have power over you, they only have as much power over you as you allow them to have by giving them all of your attention.

The best way to destroy something isn't with hate, but by erasing it from your mind. Cause as long as you continue to hate it, it will continue to exist.

I only hope one day the human race can be bred for live stock to eat their own and be milked so I have milk for my cereal. Then the pretty ones can be sold as pets for our amusement. hehehe... looks very possible!



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GlasgowGrin
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15:02:41 Mar 03 2010
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An eye for an eye. That philosophy really stuck with me during my teen years. I was never really picked on i was more of a jock i guess... during highschool i was like most jocks, closed minded so i probably would beat on kids on VR lol... but there were people that would disrespect me in some manner and that made me the agressor in most fights...



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lavisbre
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Well we can be products of our environment glasgowgrin and in our teens one must fit in as we develop and become adults, I like the show my name is earl for it’s a besides funny show also a nice thing to do and you will get a chance if you ever feel at say school reunion to clear any bad Karma or not. Lol I found I liked fighting the jocks at school and went down a bad avenue into football support and so forth if you know what I mean. Ill never clean all I have on my soul but I sure do make sure I do as many good things as possible now lol



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GlasgowGrin
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15:42:54 Mar 03 2010
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true lol but idk i think ive done shit people would consider unforgivable while others call me a hero(speaking of my time in the service, not nearly that conceited) so maybe its balanced for me but i know that ive helped some peoples lives and hindered others... and even ended some so if i create life that would equal that i guess



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18:00:08 Mar 03 2010
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in my mind these ppl have suffered for what they did to me long ago for they are are much worse off then i and just knowing this helps, my thought is if you still think on them you are letting them win bc you are still spending energy on them thus they still have a hold on you and your life



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dabbler
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19:25:16 Mar 03 2010
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When I am withness to offensive behaviour perpatrated on another person, I am often inclined to act on their behalf.

Example; a total loser obviously cut off a lady with kids in the car in a parking lot she thought herself at fault. But the jerk was clearly at fault, he parked a row over from her, and verbally accosted her in front of her children.

I let the air out of his tire. Then put a gross saturated wrapper under his door handle. Of course I watched until he came back.. he was most definitly ticked.



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Isis101
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19:29:07 Mar 03 2010
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Dab-luckily the loser didn't think that the mom with the kids did it? I hope not...
Anyway, I use to get involved when I saw an injustice. Now, I just call the cops...everyone has a gun these days.



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NartinaLeMaliki
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What would I say if I faced my persecutors today? I don't think I'd say anything. I'd take them on a luncheon to Taco Bell and deftly gauge their eyes out with a spork.

Nah, I'm kidding.

They say the best way to catch flies is with sugar, and that is exactly what I would do. The women of my family are vindictive bitches, and very calculating in our revenge. I would find every weakness that person had and exploit it all while keeping a cute little smile on my face, and making them feel as though everything is truly alright.

That is what I would do to the people who'd harmed myself and/or my person, if that was the case.

But seriously? I've moved on. The things that happened to me in the past are just that, things that happened in the past. People change...sometimes. And if twelve years later they cannot accept who I am now, then they never will. personally, I'm alright with that. If we don't get along, then we don't get along. I'm not going to flip out and start sobbing because someone doesn't like me. I am content in the knowledge that I have friends and family that love me, care for me, and would do anything for me, and at the moment, that is all I need.



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dabbler
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21:27:45 Mar 03 2010
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She was clear of the area by the time I came back, and went " ninja", I was almost caught by a security vehecle, but it turned out to not be the security of the area I was in.

I did notice the guy was buzzed, if not outright drunk.



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lavisbre
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02:11:40 Mar 04 2010
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Would have been safer to tell the police his number plate if he was drunk and maybe save a life or two now or in the future.

I agree looking over the post that letting someone who has wronged you eat at you is just giving them power over you.

My ex mother in law got me and my ex on a diet, after a very and I mean very over the top measuring food gram for gram and so forth, rice in a measure cup and sliced off to be exact … it went way to far.. so I just said one night im not on this diet any more thus taking the power from her.. I ordered KFC and with in half an hour the who family said diet off and she lost it lol
Power taken away and we were all sick from not eating grease for so long lol

Point is take the power from them by forgiving or just letting it go.. past is just that it cant change as it was the past, only your view on it can change and that gives you the power.



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coolleyhou
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04:55:52 Mar 04 2010
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Yes, lavisbre...why let bad things from the past rent space in your head-I agree. And sorry all, but I can't help smiling at Dabblers' story...he...he...He bagged a twit, but then, unfortunately, let him get away. Sadness.



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