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18:24:16 Apr 09 2010
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As there has been a huge increase in popular Vampire related books/films of late, my question is, is there any new vampire gift/slant that can be used to "beef up" what we have already read/seen ?




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There is always something to put a new twist on the vampire book, movies, and we see that as of lately. The imiganation of a writer is always exploring new ideas to tie in on the old fables. Yet even when they remake versions of old they add a new light or version of the new to the old.

I think it will continue to grow down new avenues that others touched on or did not explore.



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In Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter, the vampires have the ability to turn someone even after they've died of illness or been murdered. They can't dig up a corpse that's been sitting there for a while, however if it has just been a few days then they can change the deceased person into a vampire.
So, yeah I think that concept is fairly new.
In previous books/movies I've read the person is usually on his or her death bed, (if they're not just some random human) and turned...but not completely dead.


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13:21:58 Apr 12 2010
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Wallflower...that sounds like an interesting twist! I'd love to read that! I will have to pick it up as I love to read. You should see my book collection. I have so many vampire books..fiction & non. So, it surprises me that I don't have the book.



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15:25:41 Apr 12 2010
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It seems that nothing can be invented anymore nowadays but the human mind can be very imaginitive, maybe one day Imight publish something :)



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16:34:12 Apr 12 2010
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Wasn't interested in that book before this little tidbit. The title is kind of a publishing inside joke which stated that anything with Abraham Lincoln in the title would sell in the U.S.

The author has combined it with the word "vampire" and Voila! Talk about using TAGS.



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18:40:19 Apr 12 2010
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Ordinarily,I'm open-minded to new suggestions...just PLEASE no more fangless vampires covered in body glitter! o.O



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It seems the more vampires are portrayed in fiction, the more they have come to resemble the other two most-popular "monsters" of fiction: zombies and werewolves. And with this latest "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" book, it seems they're making vampires even more like zombies in being portrayed as able to re-animate dead flesh. A far departure from Rice's "Interview with the Vampire" in which dire consequences arose from drinking the blood of a cadaver.


Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed how much vampires, werewolves and zombies seem to have in common? In the case of all three, they all bite and consume either flesh and/or blood... and the victim usually dies and becomes what the biter was.

In this vampires, zombies and werewolves have almost the exact same modus operandi and primary characteristics (are dead, are "immortal," have sharp teeth, and an insatiable desire to eat flesh/blood).

Can't help wondering if this might have something to do with the additional fact that those three "monster" types are... strangely, or not... the three most popular in fiction.

In any event, the vampire changes over the past few hundred years in fiction... as well as the changes in werewolves and, for that matter, zombies... have not only been rather drastic over the years but seem to have, in fact, coalesced more and more together.

And isn't that curious?


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20:14:37 Apr 12 2010
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Yes, I see what you mean Upir, but I quite like the way things are going re Vampire fiction.



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I agree, Upir. The other "supernatural" of yore is the ghost, who doesn't eat anything, and whose popularity seems on the wane.

Not only did Rice emphasize that "dead" blood could make a vampire ill, but she underlined the all important blood exchange.

many other writers merely say the person has to be drained of blood by a vampire in order to become a vampire.

On Buffy, I don't recall a blood exchange ever taking place. Was there one Buffy experts?



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20:43:13 Apr 12 2010
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We should spread the rumor that if a person has silver fillings we can't drink their blood.
"Why's that?"
"because the silver has infiltrated their blood!"
"I have them..."
*Hisss!*



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BeautifulEnlightenment
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21:37:21 Apr 12 2010
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Yes, Buffy was like that. A lot of vampire stories have that twist. I know in the show True Blood if a person drinks a vampires blood they WONT turn into a vampire, but the person begins to become attracted to that vampire whose blood that they drank.



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21:38:32 Apr 12 2010
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Sinora - "Yes, I see what you mean Upir, but I quite like the way things are going re Vampire fiction."


I don't know as I like this, at all. They all seem more and more to be losing the very unique distinctions that made them all so unique and different from one another... that made them all so much fun!

It's so sad to see that like our favorite "monsters," so also in all world cultures, religions, societies, etc., everything seems to be slowly blended and melted down together into an increasingly bland homogeny where the individuality and uniqueness of each is lost to conformity to PC standards of ... sameness.


- Upir'




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03:41:09 Apr 13 2010
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true Upir, vampires are losing their distinction, yet in some ways things have to evolve to continue to carry them on or they fade into the past. I myself do not like the remakes of classic for they change the spectum of the classic, yet the special effects are better yet they lose their luster of old.

Abraham lincoln book was good, it kept me intrigued through the whole book. Like to see the movie of it.



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15:33:27 Apr 14 2010
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They are become more human.



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16:11:59 Apr 14 2010
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Yes there are too many stories,movies,TV shows out now with the vampire theme and most of them are weak.Much like the comic book to movie craze,it is getting too main stream.Like in the early 1980's the ninja movies were all the rage.After they started churning out straight to video sequels,they finally died out.Now,with all the vampire craze...with Twilight,True Blood and Vampire Diaries.They are flooding the market with knock off movies and books.Vampires(stories) have been around for many years and they will still be here,but they need to cut back on coming out with something every few weeks.


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17:21:11 Apr 14 2010
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Every author uses a different twist by adding a piece of an old tale. For instance, Twilight. It's gag worthy but America loves it. I have to say that authors are getting more and more creative with the whole 'vampire in society' concept.



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20:49:14 Apr 14 2010
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if a person was to hear of a vampire for the first time, and was not told anything about one and randomly googled "what is a vampire" they would get anyting from nasty dead smelly night crawler to rich handsom sparkly practicly normal looking vampire......i think each wrighter who has altered vampires since the original storeys takes what they have changes from the own wants and desires, deep down, i know my first media related experience with a vampire was the movie "Interview with a Vampire"..i think i was between 5-7, my dad got so mad when he found me watching it..lol



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20:54:17 Apr 14 2010
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Smile, your right twilight was a little overboard, but i think authors/filmakers are making vampires more and more like everyday people (with a taste for blood) beacuse, beauty, immortality, strength, speed, ect ect i could go one but back to my point, my point was that so many people want those things, and they find comfort and obbsession in that exact idea that, what if?, its the what if that makes all the money of the vampire media today......



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cadrewolf
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04:18:23 Apr 15 2010
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Movies and film makers are after the ol mighty dollar, and now that people are once again with vampires than the films will keep coming out or horror films. Tell the next wave of what society wants hits.



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Twilight in my opinion isn't over-rated. The first movie is an introduction to the story and moves sort of slow. There isn't that much to the plot and people tend to go wacky about the sparkling skin in the sunlight, which is only one aspect of the whole story. So what if Eastern European vampires in stories aren't like that? This is a story set in modern times and I thought it a very inventive idea. I had to watch the first movie about three times to get into it and now I really love it. The second movie was great. I can hardly wait for the third movie. Everyone has different tastes.

The popularity of the vampire has grown and people identify anything that drank blood to be vampires and that phenomenon is very modern. Others farther back were noted in various areas to drink blood, project from the grave to take your life energy, take life force just by proximity because not all of them are thought of as the undead. That is only in certain areas.

Werewolf legends go really far back in antiquity. The hallmarks of identifying a werewolf was blood drinking and especially cannibalism. Some thought if you killed a werewolf it would return as a powerful vampire. These two legends are linked in many ways. There are lists of loosely described vampires in myth just because of certain behaviors. Doesn't make it so. Most were first identified and either people that went out of favor with some group and were called a demon. Some were people who supposedly were cursed in some way and others. If you think about it all these stories could make a good cover for those who are actually very different from this description. I like some of the new fictional ideas because they are very creative but some people just can't stretch their imaginations I guess.



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I think the twigh-light twist was interesting, even the sparkle concept. It just shows an authors imagination in ways to make the vampire more attractive to the audience. I mean the original vampire was cold, emotionless, just a predator in search of food at night for they could not walk in the day. In time it came to be that the vampire’s in the stories had emotion, yearned for companionship in their immortal lives, and could bare the sun. I am interested to see where the next few years lead with the imagination and the vampire.
One last thing, if the original folk lore of vampire described them as having sparkly skin……and the authors of these days suddenly created a vampire without the sparkle, wouldn’t we be saying; hey that’s just strange that they changed the original skin of the vampire to a pale cold look instead of the sparkles. It’s all in how each person preserves what a vampire should be like. Stereotypes lol.



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02:13:54 Apr 17 2010
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.. in class, were were taught there were six stories, essentially just six. and, anything else that doesn't 'quite fit-in,' is simply a derirative of one of those six.



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03:43:13 Apr 18 2010
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Vampires are aliens...no wait i think thats been done
Jesus the vampire...i think thats been done too.
People have always had an affinity with the vampire, the romance, lust, power and life eternal.
I think most bases have been covered on the conventional route.
Although i did like the J.R Ward world vampires had to feed on other vampires.
In Perfect Creature (which i highly recommend) we were in an alternate reality vampirism was a genetic mutation, and vampires took over the church and lived like monks.
Daybreakers when most of the world had been turned.



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