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BowieX
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After watching the FIFA World Cup and seeing how some countries had animals predicting the outcome of games, exspecial after Paul the octopus perfect predictions. Do you believe that animals have a psychic ability ot is it a form of hoax.




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BowieX
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We have seen dogs with the abilty to sense danger but in regards to picking a winner of a sports even I don't believe so.



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i am not sure about predicting such things as games but perhaps predictions of gas leaks fires,earthquakes and such

i just think it's because animals have or seem to have a more acute use of their senses



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while I am impressed with the octopods record I must also play devils advocate and say that even with blind luck he had a 1:256 chance of hitting that streak. Long odds to be sure, but not impossible. Plus if you figure in that there could have been some sort of "tampering"...such as, idunno, maybe using fresher or larger mussels in the jar of the favored team? Perhaps the color of the flags on the jars is a visual indicator that the octopus found more attractive or appealing. Perhaps they had been training it for a long time for just those indicators. Studies have shown that both cuttlefish and octopi can and do respond to such stimuli and can be trained very quickly to do so. That would have reduced the odds to basically how well the leading human handicappers were predicting the winners. I am not saying that happened mind you, but I cant say it didnt either.

Above all else, I must point out that it is an octopus. It doesnt know what the game of football is and certainly had no knowledge of a series of games being played thousands of miles away. It has no sensitivity to a future event it is not even aware of. Its behavior was meaningless.



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I must agree, there are two thousand strange folk with amazing creatures who predict future events therefore at least four animals got all the correct results (globally)

To understand this concept watch truth or dare by Derran Brown where he manipulates 6 horse races to predict the winner for all six!



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I think that its great that animals can predict things, especially the pets of people with medical conditions, like the animals that predict seizures, they can be life saving



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Animals have been know to go to higher ground,
before flooding.
Look at the dogs that they have used several medical
containers, one contains a cancer cell, and it has shown the dog to go right to the one that contains the cell.
Animals have a keen sense of smell and hearing.
How many have woken their owners up,
when a fire has occurred in a home, while owners were asleep?
As for predicting the games...possible.



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I just loved the Octopus story but psychic, no I don't think so.

There are dogs which are trained to "smell" certain forms of cancer and cats that are said to "know" when a lady is with child.



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As for the octopus I think that it was luck... I mean it had what a 50/50 chance of getting it right? Now on a different note some animals have been known to sense things such as floods...



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i beleive animals can predict natural disasters but anything else is just fake



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Predict natural occurances, fires in the house
cats knowing when some1 is about to die etc yes they can and have proven many times over and over that they can

but the outcome on the winning numbers for lotteries, scratch tickets where you can win over $100, sports games etc sorry like us they have a win or lose gamble



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I believe there is some truth to this. When my sister's first child was born, my dog (a pitbull/husky and little bit of lab mix) Blaze acted very peculiar around the baby. Every time he went near her he shook uncontrollably. Once, he lifted his leg like he was gonna pee on her. My mother, after stopping him, took the choke chain, put his leash on him... took him out to go poddy, put him in the car and took him back to the animal shelter where we first got him 7 years prior.

come to find out, the baby had epilepsy. The dog shaking was his way of trying to warn us.



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or...the dog was being territorial. Pets often react in such ways when a child is brought into a home they have lived in for awhile.

Some, no...most animals have VASTLY better senses than we do. Senses of smell hundreds of thousands of times more acute. Its the equivalent of reading a book every time you take a breath through your nose. The ability to hear and see into frequencies and spectrums we cannot. They are able to detect subtle changes in barometric pressure to which we are oblivious. Some are even able to tap into the earths electromagnetic field. That is what enables certain animals to "predict" earthquakes, floods, storms, etc. It has nothing to do with seeing the future or anything mystic. It is pure response to stimuli. They can be trained to react in certain ways in response to those stimuli to our benefit, such as sniffing out cancer, comforting those having virtually imperceptable (to us) epileptic attacks, searching for drugs, bombs, and hostile enemies...or even just hunting. I'm sorry, this is nothing mysterious.



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Animals detect minute changes in a human's chemistry right before seizures by smell.They detect imminent death,also by smell.Disease..again,smell.Dogs especially.When we train Alert dogs,we teach them how to signal in a way that ensures that the owner will know for sure that a seizure is impending and not to mistake this for another behaviour so alot of this training is for the owner. As far as the baby..yes,much of this behaviour is territorial.And some adult animals,like people get nervous around babies.
As far as fires and such,there have been many occasions where a pet will wake an owner,but the fire has already started or there are chemicals that bothers them.Or in the case of an electrical fire...the smell of ozone or plastic melting...it is a survival instinct.
Floods and earthquakes and storms? Absoloutely! But this is not paranormal.They detect these things via changes in the biometric pressure and such.They are also sensetive to changes in the ground ,thus migrations en mass from an area just prior to an earthquake.
The Octopus predicting the outcome of a sports event? Cant say I will jump on that bandwagon,even though it is a great story.



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Bloodmother
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01:46:10 Jul 14 2010
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There's a dark side to psychic pets. David Berkowitz, the serial killer, claimed he took orders from a demonic black Labrador retriever owned by a neighbor.




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Oceanne
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I remember that BM.
One of the more interesting things I have seen in dog behaviour is Donny the Doberman...



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Most dogs would rip those toys apart, toss them in the air. He did seem to be arranging him. I wish they'd done a more definitive test to determine his ability to differentiate a frog from a monkey. And face down from face up. Then, I'd like to get a mathematician on the job to draw algorhythms based on his designs, and an astronomer to determine if the lines represent anything celestial, and finally a Church historian would be helpful in case the dog is trying to show that the virgin mary was really an apostle.



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Oceanne
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LOL BM thats alot of people on Donny.I would be pretty kool to decipher what he is doing with those toys.
Rasta,I am only now seeing your last post,I wouldnt have repeated what you said ,but would have certainly agreed.



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BowieX
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09:55:49 Jul 14 2010
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I am a firm believer that animals can tell things are going to happen well before we can.

I recall another story about another sea creature picking the winning teams in the World Cup. It like the Octopus was 100% during the lead up to the finals and then went astray.

No matter how we all look at it, wished I put all my money on the teams the octopus picked I would of won big.



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i think that some animals are in tune far more with vibration, sound, electromagnetic fields, etc, so they can predict such things as earthquakes.

the only way to predict the outcome of a complex event with certainty (even a game of kickball) presupposes that the outcome is already carved in stone.

the other possibility is the luck element. its possible to predict the flipping of a coin many times accurately. its just a run of good luck.

a game of kickball, or any other team sport is only a 50 50 chance of being wrong on the guess anyway.
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I think animals are capable of many things but not sure about psychic predictions. I know they are more aware and in tune with the earth and its elements. And many have the ability to know when someone is ill or in need of help. Or know when their owner is needing help. But predicting the future I am not sure on, I guess some sort of research or study is needed to know more.

Mind you an octopus has 9 brains so maybe there is something in that lol.



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