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Ok this question comes from the last episode i watched from True Blood and the scenerio made me question something and I want another person's viewpoint.

Ok Eric handcuffs himself to the King and they are both standing outside burning in the sun and Eric says he's going to take the King down with him.

My question is, can a vampire simply not uninvite a vampire from their home or property?

Can't he just say "I take back all my invitations and kick you out of all my properties" ?

Does it work that way for vampires in literature or just because you are a vampire it doesn't have the same effect?

I have no idea sorry, and i have yet to watch True Blood, I hear its supposed to be good?

After reading this thou i wonder whether if you invite a Vampyre into your home do they then have the power to invite others into your home or do they still require invitations from the owner?

I think if they were following the Rules, it should've gone down like that.

Russell should've been kicked out and forced to leave in the bright sunlight.

But of course this is True Blood we're talking about...oh no....had to be way more Dramatic than just a simple "Get out please".

I believe that because Eric and the king were in a public place, Fangtasia, that the invite rule dis not apply. If it would have been a humans house then it would apply.

I believe the rule only applies to a person who is living.

Because in a previous episode Franklin walked into Bill's house uninvited. He told Jessica that there were no living souls so he could come into the house.

the only answer would be found in the true blood lore.
each show seems to create its own vampire mythology.
~W~

Yes, as said in the first season, you cant uninvite vampires from a public domain.

well since bill is under the jurisdiction of the sheriff of lousisianna then he cannot be uninvited.

LMAO @ "True Blood Lore"
I liked how that was worded...

Whats next "Twilight Lore"?

yup! lol

just as we also have star trek lore, buffy the vampire slayer lore, and friends lore

LOL
~W~

In theory it would work that. since the vampires have no soul it is their essence that makes their dwellings home. so if their is alive they should be able to uninvite other soul-less beings from it ...

Because their both vampires, I think they can't do that, though I'm no Charlaine Harris buff.

I do think it's kinda interesting how the older a vampire is in True Blood the *worse* off they are in the sunlight, whereas most vampire universes, such as Bram Stoker's Dracula allowed vampires to move around in daylight, albeit at a significant loss of their power.

Russel Edgington being powerless to the silver hand cuffs it seems was cool- 3,000 years old and can't break out of a silver manacle (though I understand why).... hilarious in how potentially easy it is to beat him, don't you think?


I heard they aren't going to kill the King yet- he's got at least another season in him, in my opinion. I heard they are going to seal him in concrete or something. Real Han Solo in the carbonite style :p

I've never seen True Blood.... but it's interesting how every vampire series has it own set of rules and capabilities

I'm also curious how come they choose to use Silver as a means to attack or keep vampires captive. How does silver play a factor against vampires?

Maybe from the myth of the silver bullets

silver vs vamps or werewolves actually has a basis in the ancient lore.
here is the reasoning. silver was used to betray christ, so since it had a role in fullfilling his divine purpose, it is the most holy of metals.
silver was considered anathema to anything that was evil.

in the middle ages werewolves, vampires, and wizards were considered to be pretty much the same thing.

so...vamps with mirrors...(the back of mirrors was silver), silver plated knives or swords, then later silver bullets to kill werewolves, and then later vamps werent supposed to be able to be photographed because of the silver nitrate in the film.

ofcoarse, before christ, im guessing that silver was just another metal.
~W~

Yes, you can rescind invitations to vampires in True Blood.. it was the first or second season, I can't remember which, when Sookie rescinds her invitation to Bill and he can't get in, remember? Great show.. I love True Blood! :)

That is an interesting look at Silver LW. Thank you for that input. I didn't know that silver had such a huge role.

when franklin went to bill's house he didn't need an invite.he told jessica it's not the same for vampires.so really you can't tell them to go if your a vamp in another vamps house.

@ sexy, yes sookie recinded bills invite but she was a human with a soul, and as stated above fraklin didn't need an invite because he was entering the home of a soul-less creature like himself, there fore the home itself had no soul but was just another building. just like vamps don't need an invite to enter public dwelling like hotels and hospitals, so why would a recinded invaitation keep them from entering another vamps home?

Just Watch the last episode of True Blood and it is sooo differant from the books. I love this show it keeps me on the edge of my seat every week. I thought that since Ive read all the books I would already know what happens but boy was I wrong.

I don't watch the show but remember...the show is based on a series of books.So the writer can have anything happen in the world she created.

Watch The Lost Boys...remember David was human and man of the house and invited the head vampire in without realizing it.Yet David was still a vampire when he uninvited him at the end.

If you read the True Blood books you will notice that the home invitation does not apply to other Vampire's residence.
O and thanks for sharing that tid bit with me as Season 3 episode 3 screens in Australia tomorrow night. Am anxious as hell to catch up on true blood series gossip :)

Hee hee...it's a media series guys not a law book. I know many Vamps who like silver, my own ring is silver/jade.
Now garlic is a different matter, it makes me dizzy and interferes with my glands/blood making them swell like I have the Mumps, like an allergic reaction... but even that varies from individual to individual.
I have been honest in the hope some here realize the dangers I post are extremely real and not in "any kins" interests. Bows and vanishes.

law books....lol

they are made up by the whims of politician that are mostly attorneys, so they put as many loopholes in to them as they can so that they will be able to get their clients off later.
lol
(sorry, the law is one of my cynical buttons).

as for true blood, i suppose ill have to get it on dvd as i dont have showtime. thats what i get for getting hbo instead, and barely have time to watch any of that.

~W~

Actually it is on HBO or you can watch it on Cast TV for free.

yes the books are a bit different from the show, but season 3 by far is the best yet.

I'm also curious about another thing! lol They said that the Fae were wiped out by vampires. Where did the writer get their idea between these two?

Right! Charlaine puts alittle bit of everything in her books. Shifters, fairies, gobblins,witches,weres',and Vampires.
Its Awsome!

To answer the question if you are actually following the rules of Vampires, A vampire can't not uninvite another vampire due to the fact that he is dead. I believe Franklin Mott explain that to Baby Vamp Jessica in Season 3 Episode 3 or 4. The rule only applys to the living. Not us dead people lol.

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I don't watch the show but remember...the show is based on a series of books.So the writer can have anything happen in the world she created.

Watch The Lost Boys...remember David was human and man of the house and invited the head vampire in without realizing it.Yet David was still a vampire when he uninvited him at the end.

Actually David wasn't full Vampire yet when he invited the Head Vamp in his house. He didn't on a human or transformed totally. I just finish watching that movie and I love it.

The books are so different from the show. By my count this season has a combination of about 3 books in it. By this rate we might have 2 seasons leaved before that run out of the book ideas. But as far as the invitationthing goes you have to be the owner of the the house and alive to rescend any invitation to vampires.

I think that once the invite is given it can not be take back

if you make the invite .once taken it can not be taken back.

Also,in season one,Bill was not able to remove the group of "evil" vampires from his house,simply by rescinding an invitation to them.Another TrueBlood "fact" that interests me...why hasn't the dreaded Hepatitus D that can infect vampires making them seriously ill been mentioned again?Charlaine Harris also metioned "Sino-Aids" in the books,which can affect vampires.

If you remember when Franklin went into Bill's house she tried to uninvite him. It only works in this lore in the homes of the living and not vampires. I don't have time to read all the rest, so many posts.

There are NO rules to vampires. All of these things people talk about are made up in books or by Hollywood. A small percentage comes out in folklore but I never saw in anything that silver was applied to the Eastern European vampire but it comes up once in awhile with those out of Irish folklore. It can be iron, silver or gold depending on the lore and the being.

The series True Blood only loosely follows the Sookie Stackhouse books. Alan Ball and his writers have changed a lot of things. What amazes me the most is the acting ability of Evan Rachel Wood at 22. She is going to be a superstar and if she isn't...I don't know what the problem was. She even sings wonderfully. I was hoping she would do some sultry number in Fangtasia but I think she is going to be killed unfortunately. I really don't know. Alan Ball is full of surprises. One has to remember this is only fiction and can be anything by the whim of the writers.

We all know it's just fiction and writers can create anything in their storylines but i think most of us or at least some of us tend to question that maybe some of their plots or things they come up with might have some sort of twisted fact or angle from a historical lore of some kind that many people may have overlooked or stories that haven't been mentioned much that may have been used for those called "vampire" and such in those tales of old. Even if it could be just an addition or a change of legend, perhaps some of it can contain a hidden lore ;)

i think they would have the authority to do that

The yardstick that most use is Dracula and that book is a combination of werewolf and vampire lore out of mostly one particular area. He sort of copied Carmilla and the elegant vampire created by Polidori. He is said to have plagairized a lot of things and the only reason the movie Nosferatu is so different is because they hijacked the Dracula story and were trying to keep from getting caught. They got sued anyway but it was released in the US because he never had a copyright here. They made numerous movies based on that fiction and some things in the movie were made up by Hollywood or Hammer. A lot is not out of folklore and those things that some think is from that is very sketchy at best from superstition or the churches. With that so engrained as I can even see in here, how would any writer be able to please everyone?

A vampire in most of the early books walked in the light. I am not sure where that idea they couldn't, came from really. I would have to research it. I was never too interested in all the superstitions that go along with everything. Many of the vampires in folklore were said to project from the grave. Sort of like an astral body and drain the body or most often life force, but of course due to many things not known blood got tied into it. I personally like the idea of vampires being something else and they live mixed into society. It makes more sense than some of the mythologies I have read. So whatever twist Ball takes is ok with me, because it really doesn't matter. I would say if it is unappealing don't watch or write your own novels how you like the vampire portrayed. I mean there is no one thing but people hanging on to a stereotype either out of one book or superstition.

If you use the term generically to describe a spectrum of certain behaviors rather than a specific entity then it is possibly broader in scope, those things that could be called a vampire. You know if it is fiction then they can write what they want. There is no real right or wrong. Even stories out of Ireland differ from those in Eastern Europe. The sun was a sign of purity and cleansing, some cultures even worshiped the sun so it is obvious along with other things that in stories it could be thought they could not come out in the daytime. Most of this is tied totally to superstition.

I think as long as Charlaine Harris continues the books then the series will continue

those that are reading the book she has one coming out later this year or first half of next year according to the last time I was on her site

as for the King he does have some more life in him if the site i read about the series is correct about Sookie finishing him off and not Eric

since I do not have a tv or cable at this time and missed the last half of season 2 and all season 3 need to find where can watch them on the net or get friends to send me the episodes so can watch on laptop or desktop

@Risque

If you need the episodes let me know I have them all and I also have a link you could go. Hit me up or I will messsage you. Anyone else just aks me.

aw sound Sex Kitten, you did just as I had intended.
Currently I think the show is.. "the best."

Now, the same rules apply in The Vampire Diaries exception would be the rings the vamps wear. But you can enter a Vamps house if there is no living person actually living there but if there is a human you can't enter. No I don't think that rule has changed over the centries or years...

They mentioned earlier in the series that a vampire doesn't need an invitation into a public place...so even though Eric owns Fangtasia a revoked invite wouldn't matter~

@VampireLilie

I think I spelled your name right but yes that is also very ttrue too. Too many vamps go in there anyway and no actual living person lives there, not even Poor Ginger.

Well I have read all the books and seen all the episodes and HBO is starting into the realm of loosely based on the books at this point. Last nights finale blows the book out of the water.

all I can say is ....... damn that ending sucked lol

agreed another example of a good set of books that were ruined as a series

I believe that if we can get our heads around the thought that the screen writers are writing their own version of the direction that they think Charlaine Harris should have gone we can enjoy both the series and books as they only have the name of the characters and their humanity in common, human, fairy, vampire, were of some kind, shifter

i really dont know but i would guess since they were in a public place the rule doesnt applie

I like both the books True Blood is inspired from as well as the series. It seems that Ball from what I have read made the series seemier with more graphic sex than I have read thus far in the books. He is really pushing the Bill and Sookie thing but I am wondering if one particular person will appear that she dates in the book. Some characters are portrayed quite differently so one has to know the story is only inspired by the books. Ms. Harris doesn't seem to mind. I am sure she is making tons of money with the series. People are surely buying her books who may have never heard of them before. They are ok. The books seem a little more campy and Sookie a tad more countryfied than shown in the series. I have never read in folklore anything about invitations into a home. Many vampires are represented as revenants that rise from the grave and seek blood or energy/lifeforce. Some never even leave the grave. They are somewhat mindless fulfilling a need. Since the Victorian vampire writers have sort of embellished upon all of that. I'm sure there are cultures that have lists of attributes pertaining to vampires but they vary from culture to culture depending on what they even call them.

I was not happy with the season finale either. We shall see next season. I hope they come up with something good.

Well I will admit that things have gone a bit different than how they did in the books. I think that there are so many new possibilities of where to go from here for next season. I mean let' see we have Vampires, werewolves, werecats, shapeshifers, fairies, witches, and Alan says there are still new creatures to be introduced. So I think even though we have to wait until June again, it will be well worth the wait.

You should be able to.

I dont see why not.