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I am trying to force an OBE without the near death experence. But i find myself lucky if i go into a trance. Anyone have any ideas on how i can force astrial projection that would help?

It take meditation practice for that. I have never had a near-death experience from this. I can be as easy as imaging you are walking through a door, stepping into where you want to travel.

The way I learned was to start slow. In meditation, you create a "safe place." It can be anywhere, as long as it is safe and familiar to you. Take a long time just visiting this place. Practice moving around it by thinking where you want to go--pop up--without walking. We you think you know even inch of this place, then it is safe for you to travel. Again, start slow. Perhaps outside of your own home at first. Alwasy remember to come back to your safe place from time to time, to keep in practice.

~Stri

1st of all why are you trying to force it?

You need to work on your meditation and breath control. If you don't, you will never remember a damn thing and only feel the nasty headache from coming back too hard. You need to put the effort in - no shortcuts. Sorry.

dont try to force it i ask the same question as LB above me,why force it meditation and practice will serve you better,rushing always leads to unpleasantness.,,Be Well

One of the most important keys, is to relax...The harder you try, the harder it will be...Clarity of mind a relaxing are the two most important foundations...Each mind is different, but once you find how to achieve these first aspects, the closer you will be...

I would work on your state of being. like everyone else has stated you have to be relaxed and you have be in a deep meditated state. then you are not so much forcing it as you are releasing.....

if u try to force anything it will resist! relax! things come easier if u are in the right frame of mind and have alot of patience

PaganRose it right about that. anything forced is going to resist.

It is easier to do if you stay in a relaxed medtative state of mind.

I've had problems too and I've found the easiest ways to get started (especially if it's difficult for you to relax in these fast paced times) is to try something like yoga, steam-bath, or even a sweat-lodge. Removing yourself from the outside world maybe necessary if you're just starting or if your stress levels are constantly off the charts (like me). Good Luck and let me know how you fare!

Yes I too am curious as to why you would want to do this. What is it you wish to accomplish?

ive never forced an obe the only one i had was when i was 15

you can't force OBE.

they can't really be forced by oneself. obe are dangerouse. if one is not careful it maybe perminate

study up on a religion called Ekcankar. theyve got great ideals on outta body experiences, maybe u could learn something from it, but as far as i can tell you, RELAX when u try this, ur obvioulsy havent so far.

i have had an OBE but it wasnt forced, i do feel that i relaxed state of mind would be a good start and also practice meditation ... but dont ever force let it come to you :)

I had never had one until recently! I had tried a few times, but it never worked! I was relaxed & wasn't really trying & it happened! I think the main thing is to relax! Also I think that usually when you try to force something it only become more resistant! It will happen when the time is right!

meditation , breath control and a calm state of mind is what i would recomend

You shouldn't force it